Is Population control a Healthcare issue?

4Horsemen

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It appears nobody seems too interested in what the powers that be REALLY WANT.

Population Control.

Instead they want us all to argue to no end about Obamacare and Romneycare or whatever "care" they want us to argue about.

But do they really "Care"?

It's too many of us "Useless Eaters" on the planet as stated by Ted Turner. So the question is....

Is Obamacare really to provide care for people?

OR

Is it structured in such a way that it will lead to the deaths of a LOT of "Useless Eaters" ????
 
Well, this is interesting. Because one of the most dangerous aspects of making health care a public or government responsibility is that it implicitly makes our health a public concern. We're seeing the arguments already (and health care isn't fully socialized yet) from angry taxpayers insisting that they don't want to finance others' poor health habits.

But, of course, instead of just not financing others' poor health habits - and leaving them free to live how they please - we'll instead just mandate that they change their habits. It's gonna get ugly.
 
Well, this is interesting. Because one of the most dangerous aspects of making health care a public or government responsibility is that it implicitly makes our health a public concern. We're seeing the arguments already (and health care isn't fully socialized yet) from angry taxpayers insisting that they don't want to finance others' poor health habits.

But, of course, instead of just not financing others' poor health habits - and leaving them free to live how they please - we'll instead just mandate that they change their habits. It's gonna get ugly.

With the signing of the NDAA, it's nothing for Obama to make a decision that death panels for the elderly in the name of saving money is now on the table.
 
Well, this is interesting. Because one of the most dangerous aspects of making health care a public or government responsibility is that it implicitly makes our health a public concern. We're seeing the arguments already (and health care isn't fully socialized yet) from angry taxpayers insisting that they don't want to finance others' poor health habits.

But, of course, instead of just not financing others' poor health habits - and leaving them free to live how they please - we'll instead just mandate that they change their habits. It's gonna get ugly.

With the signing of the NDAA, it's nothing for Obama to make a decision that death panels for the elderly in the name of saving money is now on the table.

I suspect it will come from the other direction - endless minor regulations dictating our personal health habits in the name of saving taxpayer money. Earlier nanny-state regs have utilized this justification (smoking laws, seatbelt laws, etc...) but the argument will carry much more weight when the poor health of others does, directly cost taxpayers money. You're health will, essentially, become state property.
 
Well, this is interesting. Because one of the most dangerous aspects of making health care a public or government responsibility is that it implicitly makes our health a public concern. We're seeing the arguments already (and health care isn't fully socialized yet) from angry taxpayers insisting that they don't want to finance others' poor health habits.

But, of course, instead of just not financing others' poor health habits - and leaving them free to live how they please - we'll instead just mandate that they change their habits. It's gonna get ugly.

With the signing of the NDAA, it's nothing for Obama to make a decision that death panels for the elderly in the name of saving money is now on the table.

I suspect it will come from the other direction - endless minor regulations dictating our personal health habits in the name of saving taxpayer money. Earlier nanny-state regs have utilized this justification (smoking laws, seatbelt laws, etc...) but the argument will carry much more weight when the poor health of others does, directly cost taxpayers money. You're health will, essentially, become state property.

It's more money to be gained from killing off the elderly from age 65 to 85 who have 15-20 meds that cost $150 each perscription.
 
According to the UN it is.

You realize that the UN is made up of big wigs of european socialized medicine supporters, who send their patients in need of urgent surgery to us.

European healthcare (not european politicians) were looking to the US to find the balance between their socialized medicine and our capitalistic system... which was supposed to be some sort of tort reform coupled with making preventive care sort of a requirement by our insurance agencies. But instead we went with a form socialized medicine, that gives even more powers to the lawyers in the system that made it so expensive in the first place. What the hell?
 
Overpopulation will provoke a resolution, either purely on the part of nature or in conjunction with human rationality if there is any wisdom remaining in the species.

In any case, it will have an end.

People who think they love kids so much should think about how having more is sentencing many to death.
 
Overpopulation will provoke a resolution, either purely on the part of nature or in conjunction with human rationality if there is any wisdom remaining in the species.

In any case, it will have an end.

People who think they love kids so much should think about how having more is sentencing many to death.

Mankind has no right to control the population. and Fearmongering people to keep them from having kids due to the ramifications mankind has set forth is just sick.
 
Overpopulation will provoke a resolution, either purely on the part of nature or in conjunction with human rationality if there is any wisdom remaining in the species.

In any case, it will have an end.

People who think they love kids so much should think about how having more is sentencing many to death.

Mankind has no right to control the population. and Fearmongering people to keep them from having kids due to the ramifications mankind has set forth is just sick.

How do you define population control? Just so everyone is on the same page.
 
Overpopulation will provoke a resolution, either purely on the part of nature or in conjunction with human rationality if there is any wisdom remaining in the species.

In any case, it will have an end.

People who think they love kids so much should think about how having more is sentencing many to death.

Mankind has no right to control the population. and Fearmongering people to keep them from having kids due to the ramifications mankind has set forth is just sick.

How do you define population control? Just so everyone is on the same page.

Decreasing the population by deliberate means - ie. Soft kills, bio-weapons, mass murder, War, Pharmaceutical warfare, Obamacare, stc...
 
Mankind has no right to control the population. and Fearmongering people to keep them from having kids due to the ramifications mankind has set forth is just sick.

How do you define population control? Just so everyone is on the same page.

Decreasing the population by deliberate means - ie. Soft kills, bio-weapons, mass murder, War, Pharmaceutical warfare, Obamacare, stc...

So like a universal birth control?
 
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Here are Hillary Clinton's words:

In addition to new funding, we've launched a new program that will be the centerpiece of our foreign policy, the Global Health Initiative, which commits us to spending $63 billion over six years to improve global health by investing in efforts to reduce maternal and child mortality, [and] prevent millions of unintended pregnancies.

Global ObamaCare and World Population Control
 

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