Is Obamacare too big to fail?

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    Might the justices rule that the ACA should stand, mandate and all, because dismantling it would be too complicated?
     
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    I can't believe I am saying this, but thankfully there are too many Conservatives on the bench. (While I am more liberal than Cons on many issues, I tend to be more of a strict Constitutionalist).

    However, given that liberals believe that the state can take people's property away for corporate gain (Kelo vs New London), I am sure that they can wrap their heads around the idea to hand over millions of Americans to the for profit insurance industry.

    Liberals make me sick to my stomach sometimes. They are such corporate apologists, yet blame Conservatives. (However, two wrongs don't make a right).
     
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    No. All laws can be repealed.
     
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    This is discomforting given the number times that SCOTUS were repealed. After all, they are the law.
     
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    From the snippets I heard from Wednesday's hearing, it does sound like they were almost assuming that the individual mandate is toast, and that they've moved on to whether they should scrap the whole thing. But questions from the supes don't always translate into how they'll decide.

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    It would add a heck of alot to the deficit..and be another fine example of a radical right wing case decision..

    Not as radical as citizen's united of course..which conflated the original case, ignored 100 years of precedent, previous cases and congressional legislation.

    But close..
     
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    No. Its not to big to fail.
     
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    Scalia seemed to be suggesting it's too big to screw around trying to figure out which bits of it should stay and which should go - but I'm not sure that will sway the vote one way or another. I suppose it could, but something tells me they'll be taking more into consideration than whether the additional workload might cut into their vacation time.
     
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    Scalia asked, incredulously, if it would be expected the Supremes or their clerks go thru the remainder of the 2,700 page bill to decide what should / could stand without the individual mandate.

    No. Such a thing would be the job of Congress to figure out with new legislation to fix the Obama-Pelosi-Reid failure.
     
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    More like too big to succeed.
    When the supreme court rules it invalid (which they will as it certainly looks). It will be the fault of every Democrat legislature and the White House for rushing through a monstrous-uber complicated mess that no one read. Also despite calls from other legislatures, state attorneys, lawyers, judges etc. etc. saying basically - "hey..this may not be legal" - Democrats voted it in anyway.
    It will be their fault alone that health care reform has failed.
     
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