Is Obama Using The IRS to Silence Opposition?

[The T]

Namely the TEA Party...

Many of us joke about being audited by the IRS because our views are not in sync with the White House. President Obama himself has even joked about it back in 2009, when a visit to Arizona State University caused many to speak up against the President receiving an honorary degree:

Obama threatens Tax Audits - YouTube

That was back in 2009. And it was a joke, right?
Or was it?
In just the past week, we have received emails from various Tea Party groups around the country alerting us to the oppressive demands being sent to them from the IRS.
And so we ask the question: Is the Obama administration using the IRS to wage a war against opposition voices like the Tea Party?

One of the groups currently dealing with the government’s overreach is the Ohio Liberty Council Corp.

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What has the IRS demanded?

A hard copy printout of the website – A PDF file emailed to the IRS will not suffice (and this is the high-tech Administration)
List all Social Media outlets being used (Facebook, Twitter, etc) and include hard copy printouts of every posting
A narrative description of every activity of your organization since June 30, 2010 (filing date) – And they do not want a mere description of the event, but full details – including; who conducted it, their qualifications, who was allowed to take part in the activities and how they were selected, was there a fee? (how much)
The IRS also wants to know about the members of the group and their roles and more, asking specifically for the “name, address, and corporate federal ID of all organizations that are members of our organization”
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But wait, there’s more.

Public events are also under scrutiny with the IRS demanding to know the time, location and content schedule of each event.
Copies of any and all handouts must be included.
Names and credentials of all instructors and copies of any workshop materials used.
All speakers must be identified and copies of every speech must be included.

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So what gives? Are there any other groups out there being treated like this? Is this a page out of the Clinton Administration on steroids?

Are groups that are sympatico with Obama going though this? Bet alot of you didn't know this was going on, did you?

Ah Our lovely media...

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Read the rest HERE​

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[Dragon]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

 

[Full-Auto]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

Actually there was, but you wouldnt look on your own anyway.

This was just posted but is days old.

 

[The T]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

Actually there was, but you wouldnt look on your own anyway.

This was just posted but is days old.

He didn't dig deep enough...And you're correct...this has been going on for awhile...

 

[freedombecki]

Namely the TEA Party...

Many of us joke about being audited by the IRS because our views are not in sync with the White House. President Obama himself has even joked about it back in 2009, when a visit to Arizona State University caused many to speak up against the President receiving an honorary degree:

Obama threatens Tax Audits - YouTube

That was back in 2009. And it was a joke, right?
Or was it?
In just the past week, we have received emails from various Tea Party groups around the country alerting us to the oppressive demands being sent to them from the IRS.
And so we ask the question: Is the Obama administration using the IRS to wage a war against opposition voices like the Tea Party?

One of the groups currently dealing with the government’s overreach is the Ohio Liberty Council Corp.

______________________________

What has the IRS demanded?

A hard copy printout of the website – A PDF file emailed to the IRS will not suffice (and this is the high-tech Administration)
List all Social Media outlets being used (Facebook, Twitter, etc) and include hard copy printouts of every posting
A narrative description of every activity of your organization since June 30, 2010 (filing date) – And they do not want a mere description of the event, but full details – including; who conducted it, their qualifications, who was allowed to take part in the activities and how they were selected, was there a fee? (how much)
The IRS also wants to know about the members of the group and their roles and more, asking specifically for the “name, address, and corporate federal ID of all organizations that are members of our organization”
​

But wait, there’s more.

Public events are also under scrutiny with the IRS demanding to know the time, location and content schedule of each event.
Copies of any and all handouts must be included.
Names and credentials of all instructors and copies of any workshop materials used.
All speakers must be identified and copies of every speech must be included.

______________________________

So what gives? Are there any other groups out there being treated like this? Is this a page out of the Clinton Administration on steroids?

Are groups that are sympatico with Obama going though this? Bet alot of you didn't know this was going on, did you?

Ah Our lovely media...

_______________________________

Read the rest HERE​

The T, I think you should contact Judicial Watch if this is a group you're close to. It may be against the law for a person in the government to use the IRS as his methodology for punishing an enemy.

Asking for revealing information that is irrelevant to a real tax issue is way out there left of third base, a real foul. imho.

 

[rdean]

Is Obama Using The IRS to Silence Opposition?

You can't expect Obama to do what you expect Republicans to do. Seems he's better than that. They seem to be too blinded by his skin color to notice.

 

[ladyliberal]

No one in any of these links seems to cite any evidence that the documents are motivated by the ideology of the groups they were sent to, or that groups with different ideologies have not received similar letters. We just see multiple conservative groups who feel compelled to "wonder" if they are being persecuted. I would guess the answer is "no", since the standard form for requesting tax-exempt status asks for some or all of this information and plenty more besides (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf)

As for the "evidence" it seems quite suspect. The "document" provided is actually a document produced by the Ohio Liberty Council with portions of what appears to be a document from the IRS pasted into it. There are no mentions of demands, only of requests. Further, the Liberty Council's text (which also includes basic grammar errors) claims that the IRS Exempt Organizations will ask this information of "you" the individual reading their document. This seems to be completely false and indeed nonsensical, calling into question the entire narrative crafted.

 

[Peach]

No one in any of these links seems to cite any evidence that the documents are motivated by the ideology of the groups they were sent to, or that groups with different ideologies have not received similar letters. We just see multiple conservative groups who feel compelled to "wonder" if they are being persecuted. I would guess the answer is "no", since the standard form for requesting tax-exempt status asks for some or all of this information and plenty more besides (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf)

As for the "evidence" it seems quite suspect. The "document" provided is actually a document produced by the Ohio Liberty Council with portions of what appears to be a document from the IRS pasted into it. There are no mentions of demands, only of requests. Further, the Liberty Council's text (which also includes basic grammar errors) claims that the IRS Exempt Organizations will ask this information of "you" the individual reading their document. This seems to be completely false and indeed nonsensical, calling into question the entire narrative crafted.

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Are all the various "TEA party" members claiming 501(c)3 status?

 

[EriktheRed]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

Actually there was, but you wouldnt look on your own anyway.

This was just posted but is days old.

It was a steaming pile of crap when you first brought it up and it's still crap now.

 

[Clementine]

If a PDF file is good enough for Obama's birth certificate, then it's good enough for the IRS. Unless they understand how easy it is to alter documents that way. Hey, if hard copies are the only thing accepted as proof, then the birthers better make more demands.

 

[jillian]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

like this?:

Former White House Counsel to IRS: Pull Media Matters’ Tax-Exempt Status

C. Boyden Gray, former White House counsel to President George H.W. Bush, filed a civilian complaint with the IRS against the nonprofit Media Matters on July 27, demanding the agency yank its tax-exempt status.

Read more: Former White House Counsel to IRS: Pull Media Matters

 

[Flopper]

The organization filed form 1024 requesting tax exempt status. The questions may or may not be out of line depending on how the organization completed part II of the form which asks for a rather extensive narrative of the activities of the organization. Since this thread is purely political, my guess is the IRS questions are proper. IMHO, the IRS should be asking a lot of detailed questions before granting tax exempt status to any organization.

PART II. (of form 1024)
Provide a detailed narrative description of all the activities of the organization—past, present, and planned. Do not merely refer to or repeat the language in the organizational document. List each activity separately in the order of importance based on the relative time and other resources devoted to the activity. Indicate the percentage of time for each activity. Each description should include, as a minimum, the following: (a) a detailed description of the activity including its purpose and how each activity furthers your exempt purpose; (b) when the activity was or will be initiated; and (c) where and by whom the activity will be conducted.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Is Obama Using The IRS to Silence Opposition?

You can't expect Obama to do what you expect Republicans to do. Seems he's better than that. They seem to be too blinded by his skin color to notice.

You can take your racist crap and shove it up your ass with a red hot poker.

 

[freedombecki]

Is Obama Using The IRS to Silence Opposition?

You can't expect Obama to do what you expect Republicans to do. Seems he's better than that. They seem to be too blinded by his skin color to notice.

Seems he is using the IRS to silence opposition while he sits in his ivory tower with all his yes men sittin' around, just kissin' his toes and feet.

Selectively reading the OP, are we?

 

[freedombecki]

No one in any of these links seems to cite any evidence that the documents are motivated by the ideology of the groups they were sent to, or that groups with different ideologies have not received similar letters. We just see multiple conservative groups who feel compelled to "wonder" if they are being persecuted. I would guess the answer is "no", since the standard form for requesting tax-exempt status asks for some or all of this information and plenty more besides (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf)

As for the "evidence" it seems quite suspect. The "document" provided is actually a document produced by the Ohio Liberty Council with portions of what appears to be a document from the IRS pasted into it. There are no mentions of demands, only of requests. Further, the Liberty Council's text (which also includes basic grammar errors) claims that the IRS Exempt Organizations will ask this information of "you" the individual reading their document. This seems to be completely false and indeed nonsensical, calling into question the entire narrative crafted.

Sorry, we're up to here with omerta oaths out of this administration.

They need to clean up their act before they start lifting others' shorts and pointing.

 

[freedombecki]

I note there was no actual evidence offered that the claims of IRS activity were factual, e.g. copies of letters from the agency making these demands.

Actually there was, but you wouldnt look on your own anyway.

This was just posted but is days old.

It was a steaming pile of crap when you first brought it up and it's still crap now.

So Freudian Stage I speech fires your rockets and makes you grin from ear to ear? Oh, my.

 

[freedombecki]

If a PDF file is good enough for Obama's birth certificate, then it's good enough for the IRS. Unless they understand how easy it is to alter documents that way. Hey, if hard copies are the only thing accepted as proof, then the birthers better make more demands.

You know the system, Clementine: when it's them, anything goes gets a Rose Garden Party. When it's a conservative, order the IRS to do their punishing.

Like when they passed the whistleblower's laws to get Republican businesses and oil companies, then got madder than hatters at Monica Lewinski and Linda Tripp produced the little blue dress.

 

[occupied]

Sounds like getting Joe-Bob's brother Ed to prepare their taxes may be the culprit here. Maybe they should get good people to do their tax filings.

 

[jillian]

If a PDF file is good enough for Obama's birth certificate, then it's good enough for the IRS. Unless they understand how easy it is to alter documents that way. Hey, if hard copies are the only thing accepted as proof, then the birthers better make more demands.

you're not very bright.

 

[Flopper]

No one in any of these links seems to cite any evidence that the documents are motivated by the ideology of the groups they were sent to, or that groups with different ideologies have not received similar letters. We just see multiple conservative groups who feel compelled to "wonder" if they are being persecuted. I would guess the answer is "no", since the standard form for requesting tax-exempt status asks for some or all of this information and plenty more besides (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf)

As for the "evidence" it seems quite suspect. The "document" provided is actually a document produced by the Ohio Liberty Council with portions of what appears to be a document from the IRS pasted into it. There are no mentions of demands, only of requests. Further, the Liberty Council's text (which also includes basic grammar errors) claims that the IRS Exempt Organizations will ask this information of "you" the individual reading their document. This seems to be completely false and indeed nonsensical, calling into question the entire narrative crafted.

I see nothing wrong with the IRS request for information. It's in response to the organizations request for tax exemption.