Is Obama really a Christian?

[ScreamingEagle]

I've heard before that mulims can lie and we all know that commies do....in order to achieve their goals....is Obama's claim to be a Christian a lie?

Christians do NOT believe in collective salvation......however, it appears that Obama believes in collective salvation....Obama claims that his salvation depends on your "sacrifice" in the "new age":

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0crhth_g9E&NR=1]YouTube - Obama Collective Salvation[/ame]

 

[VaYank5150]

Is Obama really a Christian?

No. He is a Muslim. Most, if not all Tea Baggers know this. Also, most if not all right wing web sites claim it, so it MUST be true, right?

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Does it really matter if he is or not?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Does it really matter if he is or not?

Yes....our country was founded upon Christian principles, not Communist ones or Muslim ones....what a President believes in should matter...

When you start to mix anti-American beliefs with American politics you can create threats against our American way of life.

 

[Truthmatters]

It doesnt matter what you think of him.

Only he knows if he is a true christian.

I know many christians who would benifit from acting like christians no matter how much they claim they are christians.

 

[VaYank5150]

Does it really matter if he is or not?

Yes....our country was founded upon Christian principles, not Communist ones or Muslim ones....what a President believes in should matter...

When you start to mix anti-American beliefs with American politics you can create threats against our American way of life.

Huh? Are you REALLY trying to draw a line from Muslims to Communists now? Covering all of your talking points, I see...

 

[washamericom]

I've heard before that mulims can lie and we all know that commies do....in order to achieve their goals....is Obama's claim to be a Christian a lie?

Christians do NOT believe in collective salvation......however, it appears that Obama believes in collective salvation....Obama claims that his salvation depends on your "sacrifice" in the "new age":

YouTube - Obama Collective Salvation

could the pope be a muslim ?

 

[California Girl]

In order to be a Christian, you have to accept Christ as your personal savior. That is not rocket science. His Church is a black liberation theology church... they believe in collective salvation.

Personal salvation is not collective salvation. That's a fact. Whether Obama is a Christian, I neither know nor care.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

It doesnt matter what you think of him.

Only he knows if he is a true christian.

I know many christians who would benifit from acting like christians no matter how much they claim they are christians.

Yes it does matter what I think of him....and what others think of him.....we have the votes to keep him in office or not...

Maybe someday he will speak and act more like a true Christian.....but until that day what he says and does while President is of much importance to us.

 

[VaYank5150]

It doesnt matter what you think of him.

Only he knows if he is a true christian.

I know many christians who would benifit from acting like christians no matter how much they claim they are christians.

Yes it does matter what I think of him....and what others think of him.....we have the votes to keep him in office or not...

Maybe someday he will speak and act more like a true Christian.....but until that day what he says and does while President is of much importance to us.

No you don't. If you did, he wouldn't BE in office....

 

[Truthmatters]

How does anyone peer into the heart of any man and claim they KNOW their religion better than the man does himself.

You people ONLY question his religion because you are partisan hacks who leave nothing to be respected.

 

[rdean]

Glenn Beck said he is a "Christian of a different type". One that doesn't believe in "personal salvation", but one that believes in the "collective".

Like the Borg.

That means Obama has gone from being an "illegal alien" to being a "real alien".

What's really funny, is that a few months ago, Beck called MLK the "poster child for radical socialism". Guess that go with helping those darn poor. You know that Republicans believe, "If you don't feed them, they won't breed".

 

[ScreamingEagle]

In order to be a Christian, you have to accept Christ as your personal savior. That is not rocket science. His Church is a black liberation theology church... they believe in collective salvation.

Personal salvation is not collective salvation. That's a fact. Whether Obama is a Christian, I neither know nor care.

Yes...Obama's black liberation connection is his connection to communist collectivism....which is anti-Christian.

Obama's family experiences are the muslim connection.

It's interesting to see how the two so nicely dovetail with each other...

 

[California Girl]

How does anyone peer into the heart of any man and claim they KNOW their religion better than the man does himself.

You people ONLY question his religion because you are partisan hacks who leave nothing to be respected.

The only reason you don't question is because you are a partisan hack.

Collective salvation (as preached by Rev Wright) is NOT personal salvation. In order to understand the difference, one need only look at the two things and refer to the teachings of Christ. He taught personal salvation.... no body, not even Obama, can change that.

 

[California Girl]

Glenn Beck said he is a "Christian of a different type". One that doesn't believe in "personal salvation", but one that believes in the "collective".

Like the Borg.

That means Obama has gone from being an "illegal alien" to being a "real alien".

What's really funny, is that a few months ago, Beck called MLK the "poster child for radical socialism". Guess that go with helping those darn poor. You know that Republicans believe, "If you don't feed them, they won't breed".

For the terminally stupid (that's you), Obama's church teaches 'collective salvation'. Christ taught 'personal salvation'. Now, as far as I am aware, even Obama can't change the teachings of Christ. Don't like the fact, tough. But fact is fact.

 

[Luissa]

I knew Screaming Eagle had no clue what he talking about when he called Obama a communist.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why does it matter whether or not Obama is Christian? I thought we had freedom of religion in this country.

 

[kwc57]

In order to be a Christian, you have to accept Christ as your personal savior. That is not rocket science. His Church is a black liberation theology church... they believe in collective salvation.

Personal salvation is not collective salvation. That's a fact. Whether Obama is a Christian, I neither know nor care.

So a Catholic is not a Christian since salvation comes thru baptism which usually occurs as an infant?

 

[California Girl]

Why does it matter whether or not Obama is Christian? I thought we had freedom of religion in this country.

It doesn't. His faith, or the lack thereof, is as relevant as his skin color.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How does anyone peer into the heart of any man and claim they KNOW their religion better than the man does himself.

You people ONLY question his religion because you are partisan hacks who leave nothing to be respected.

Well, I for one, do not respect a politician who says I am going to have to sacrifice for the greater good in the upcoming new age of America.....that is NOT the America I want to see created...

Individualism is the bedrock of America...