Is obama a socilist, or a fascist?

[Ernie S.]

I will link the rest of the article in a while, but I'd like to see discussion on this much of it, before I attribute it.

Politically, it is heads-I-win when things go right, and tails-you-lose when things go wrong. This is far preferable, from Obama's point of view, since it gives him a variety of scapegoats for all his failed policies, without having to use President Bush as a scapegoat all the time.

Government ownership of the means of production means that politicians also own the consequences of their policies, and have to face responsibility when those consequences are disastrous -- something that Barack Obama avoids like the plague.

Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the "greed" of the insurance companies.

The same principle, or lack of principle, applies to many other privately owned businesses. It is a very successful political ploy that can be adapted to all sorts of situations.

One of the reasons why both pro-Obama and anti-Obama observers may be reluctant to see him as fascist is that both tend to accept the prevailing notion that fascism is on the political right, while it is obvious that Obama is on the political left.

Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely -- and correctly -- regarded as being on the political left. Jonah Goldberg's great book "Liberal Fascism" cites overwhelming evidence of the fascists' consistent pursuit of the goals of the left, and of the left's embrace of the fascists as one of their own during the 1920s.

Mussolini, the originator of fascism, was lionized by the left, both in Europe and in America, during the 1920s. Even Hitler, who adopted fascist ideas in the 1920s, was seen by some, including W.E.B. Du Bois, as a man of the left.

 

[Mac1958]

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Here we go...

And in your answer, please include how the 39.6% top marginal tax rate he wants would constitute "socialism" or "fascism". Thanks.

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[Nova78]

Is obama a socilist, or a fascist?

Just an Idiot that needs to crawl back into one of his shovel ready job holes he created

 

[Oddball]

He's a punk.

 

[squinch]

Socialist or Fascist?
These are our options?

 

[Govmule4]

But the insurance companies are greedy right? They could lower their premiums, right? And health insurance was already regulated, right? So basically the market changed and the insurance company needs to adapt, get over it. What does this have to do with fascism?

 

[Rozman]

I thought African American was still acceptable?.....

 

[SniperFire]

Why is 'bumbling amateurish asswipe' not an option?

 

[Ernie S.]

Where are rdweeb, lakhota, luddly and TDM?. I can't believe the race card hasn't been proudly plopped down on the table here.

Socialist or Fascist?

 

[HenryBHough]

Neither.

Communist, perhaps?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I thought African American was still acceptable?.....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq55-Dq5zvo&feature=player_detailpage]you racist bastard - YouTube[/ame]

 

[blackhawk]

In my opinion Obama is a very far left liberal Democrat if someone want's to call that socialist or fascist that's up to them.

 

[francoHFW]

Liberal Fascism is pure drivel. Fascism is rightist, is totalitarian corporatism.

He's a center right socialist, which is democratic and intelligent, NOT Marxist in the least. Pub dupes!

 

[SniperFire]

Fascism is rightist

Hitler, for example, spoke several times about how the Nazi's were building the 'perfect socialist state.'

Mussolini was a direct product of the Socialist Party.

As per usual, you haven't the slightest fucking idea what you are talking about.

 

[BDBoop]

Where are rdweeb, lakhota, luddly and TDM?. I can't believe the race card hasn't been proudly plopped down on the table here.

Socialist or Fascist?

So, this is a bait thread?

 

[francoHFW]

Wrong again! socialism is always democratic. You believe nazi propaganda, not surprising.

 

[AquaAthena]

He's a punk.

A strong leader......

 

[BDBoop]

He's a punk.

A strong leader......

Speaking of pictures, AA; your current avvie looks like she's doing a one-cheek sneak.

 

[The T]

He's a punk.

A strong leader......

He's a Wanker.

 

[Ernie S.]

Liberal Fascism is pure drivel. Fascism is rightist, is totalitarian corporatism.

He's a center right socialist, which is democratic and intelligent, NOT Marxist in the least. Pub dupes!

1. Did you even read the column?
2. Is Conservadeerp your sock, or your gay lover?