Is Marriage Dead?

[Madeline]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Moron Alert. Been married since Aug 1983. And yes young people get married every day.

 

[editec]

Hope springs enternal.

Marriage is, therefore, not dead.

 

[eots]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

No the fags where the last nail in the coffin ..they finally get the right to marry and just as the whole institution was imploding on its self... marriage will most likely become something only fags and Christians do in near future...

 

[Full-Auto]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

No the fags where the last nail in the coffin ..they finally get the right to marry and just as the whole institution was imploding on its self... marriage will most likely become something only fags and Christians do in near future...

You are way off. First our family structure is based on the eurocentric model of three generations in one household. It has little to do with christianity as many of the different religions follow this model.

Gays will not ruin the institution, they will not harm or bolster the institution. They will merely follow human instinct. Marraige failures havent changed much at all. If anything it will improve since many children are born out of wedlock.

 

[AquaAthena]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

It is dying out according to a Pew Research Center Report. I think it is because of long-term commitment expectations combined with other issues.

(Nov. 18) -- Nearly four in 10 Americans think marriage is becoming obsolete, according to a new survey that reveals changing attitudes on gay marriage, unwed couples and the definition of what a family is.

The study, conducted by social scientists at the Pew Research Center in coordination with Time magazine, also shows that Americans' attitudes toward family issues differ by race, age and social class. It's based on interviews with 2,691 adults reached on their cell or land-line phones during the first three weeks of October. Pew researchers also analyzed demographic and economic data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

More: Poll: 4 in 10 Say Marriage Becoming Obsolete

 

[High_Gravity]

Marriage is a joke, I have seen so many marriages fail in this country I lost count. If you are happily married good for you but it is not for everyone. More than half the marriages in this country end up in divorce and the numbers would probably be more if people could afford to leave their spouse, alot of people are broke and cannot afford to leave and end the marriage.

 

[AquaAthena]

Marriage is a joke, I have seen so many marriages fail in this country I lost count. If you are happily married good for you but it is not for everyone. More than half the marriages in this country end up in divorce and the numbers would probably be more if people could afford to leave their spouse, alot of people are broke and cannot afford to leave and end the marriage.

Ditto that statement. Not everyone feels a need to "couple" and especially for the long haul.

 

[High_Gravity]

Marriage is a joke, I have seen so many marriages fail in this country I lost count. If you are happily married good for you but it is not for everyone. More than half the marriages in this country end up in divorce and the numbers would probably be more if people could afford to leave their spouse, alot of people are broke and cannot afford to leave and end the marriage.

Ditto that statement. Not everyone feels a need to "couple" and especially for the long haul.

I just think marriage is an out dated institution, it worked well in the 1800s and and the early parts of the 21st century but this country has moved past that, with the American lifestyle the way it is with so many opportunities and all the new people that you meet it is unrealistic to ask someone, a man or a woman, to spend the rest of their lives with just one person. It is unrealistic and the facts speak for themselves with the high divorce rates.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Marriage is such a cool thing that I've done it twice!

 

[PoliticalChic]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

"Conversely, the Pew Research survey reports, cohabitation--where couples live together as unmarried partners--is on the rise...

Cohabiters beware: You may deliberately forego the formalities of marriage, but depending on where you live, or where you move to, the legal obligations you owe your partner are all too familiar. The rights and obligations of unmarried partners vary significantly from state to state, and in some cases, mirror the rights and obligations of married spouses."
Robert S. Cohen: Should You Have a Cohabitation Agreement?


In effect, in states with common law marriage, folks get married without getting married.

Further, "Courts in several states, including New Jersey, award palimony based on representations sometimes oral, sometimes implied, from one unmarried partner to another, that he or she would be provided for in the future. The obligor partner need not be alive to pay palimony. Unmarried partners have successfully litigated palimony suits against the estates of predeceased partners."

 

[PoliticalChic]

Marriage is a joke, I have seen so many marriages fail in this country I lost count. If you are happily married good for you but it is not for everyone. More than half the marriages in this country end up in divorce and the numbers would probably be more if people could afford to leave their spouse, alot of people are broke and cannot afford to leave and end the marriage.

Ditto that statement. Not everyone feels a need to "couple" and especially for the long haul.

I just think marriage is an out dated institution, it worked well in the 1800s and and the early parts of the 21st century but this country has moved past that, with the American lifestyle the way it is with so many opportunities and all the new people that you meet it is unrealistic to ask someone, a man or a woman, to spend the rest of their lives with just one person. It is unrealistic and the facts speak for themselves with the high divorce rates.

Welcome to the board.

Does your view apply to those having children?

"One study that ran more than two decades found that nearly 90% of the change in violent crime rates can be attributed to the change in percentages of out-of-wedlock births. Conversely, divorce rates had no relationship with crime.

Barbara Dafoe Whitehead noted that the "relationship [between single-parent families and crime] is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature. The nation's mayors, as well as police officers, social workers, probation officers, and court officials, consistently point to family break up as the most important source of rising rates of crime."
Eric Holder's Chickens Come Home to Roost

 

[editec]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

No the fags where the last nail in the coffin ..they finally get the right to marry and just as the whole institution was imploding on its self... marriage will most likely become something only fags and Christians do in near future...

So YOUR marriage will fail if gays get married?

Must not be much of a marriage, then.

 

[JBeukema]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

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The family unit is the cornerstone of civilization. You're blind hated of men has you feminazis foaming at the mouth, screaming for the destruction of our very society, calling for mothers to abandon their children en masse. Why can't you just mind your own and let women decide for themselves whether and whom to marry. Why do you want countless women to be unhappy just so you can destroy America?

 

[High_Gravity]

Ditto that statement. Not everyone feels a need to "couple" and especially for the long haul.

I just think marriage is an out dated institution, it worked well in the 1800s and and the early parts of the 21st century but this country has moved past that, with the American lifestyle the way it is with so many opportunities and all the new people that you meet it is unrealistic to ask someone, a man or a woman, to spend the rest of their lives with just one person. It is unrealistic and the facts speak for themselves with the high divorce rates.

Welcome to the board.

Does your view apply to those having children?

"One study that ran more than two decades found that nearly 90% of the change in violent crime rates can be attributed to the change in percentages of out-of-wedlock births. Conversely, divorce rates had no relationship with crime.

Barbara Dafoe Whitehead noted that the "relationship [between single-parent families and crime] is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature. The nation's mayors, as well as police officers, social workers, probation officers, and court officials, consistently point to family break up as the most important source of rising rates of crime."
Eric Holder's Chickens Come Home to Roost

You can still live with a woman or man if you are happy, have children and not be married. The whole attitude that you have to be married to have children is pre-historic, especially if the odds are you will end up divorced anyways.

 

[JBeukema]

Marriage has been around since long before the State started issuing certificated.

 

[logical4u]

What use is marriage in a society that does not penalize people for being sexually active? Now that DNA can designate a Daddy and most women have to work anyway......does it still have value for young people?

In spite of liberal policies that have all but eliminated faithful relationships in the urban black families & rural white families: by giving women money to have children without fathers, and then pay fathers not to work, with unemployment, marriage will be around as long as there are people that strive to be honorable and have integrity.
The third Reich also, tried to eliminate marriage by encouraging promiscuous behavior. Their idea: break the family, build the government, the same thing the libs are trying to do, today: parents aren't qualified to teach their children, even about sex, they are too stupid to recognize their children are overweight, and they teach them "superstitious nonsense" when the teach them Christianity (any other religion is fine).
And because the libs will not learn from history, we will repeat it: the collapse of civilization as we know it. It happens every time a small group thinks they can control society. It happened in Rome, with the Mayans, in Germany, the USSR, and countless African countries that won their freedom to fall again, re-group and fall again. It is only with liberty and laws, applied equally, that cause great societies, and all of those, had marriage. Check your history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I just think marriage is an out dated institution, it worked well in the 1800s and and the early parts of the 21st century but this country has moved past that, with the American lifestyle the way it is with so many opportunities and all the new people that you meet it is unrealistic to ask someone, a man or a woman, to spend the rest of their lives with just one person. It is unrealistic and the facts speak for themselves with the high divorce rates.

Welcome to the board.

Does your view apply to those having children?

"One study that ran more than two decades found that nearly 90% of the change in violent crime rates can be attributed to the change in percentages of out-of-wedlock births. Conversely, divorce rates had no relationship with crime.

Barbara Dafoe Whitehead noted that the "relationship [between single-parent families and crime] is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature. The nation's mayors, as well as police officers, social workers, probation officers, and court officials, consistently point to family break up as the most important source of rising rates of crime."
Eric Holder's Chickens Come Home to Roost

You can still live with a woman or man if you are happy, have children and not be married. The whole attitude that you have to be married to have children is pre-historic, especially if the odds are you will end up divorced anyways.

There is nothing more atavistic than the attitude that children's welfare count of less than nothing, as long as you get what you want.

"if you are happy,..."
So, there is the escape clause?

But Americans used to be able to care about the circumstances of their children's birth...

What ever happened to the time when men were men, and adults considered the results of their actions?

"Here is the lottery ticket that single mothers are handing their innocent children by choosing to raise them without fathers: Controlling for socioeconomic status, race, and place of residence, the strongest predictor of whether a person will end up in prison is that he was raised by a single parent. By 1996, 70 percent of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long-term sentences were raised by single mothers. Seventy-two percent of juvenile murderers and 60 percent of rapists come from single-mother homes. Seventy percent of teenage births, dropouts, suicides, runaways, juvenile delinquents, and child murderers involve children raised by single mothers. Girls raised without fathers are more sexually promiscuous and more likely to end up divorced. A 1990 study by the Progressive Policy Institute showed that after controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.

Various studies have come up with slightly different numbers, but all the figures are grim. According to the Index of Leading Cultural Indicators, children from single-parent families account for 63 percent of all youth suicides, 70 percent of all teenage pregnancies, 71 percent of all adolescent chemical/substance abuse, 80 percent of all prison inmates, and 90 percent of all homeless and runaway children.

A study cited in the Village Voice produced similar numbers. It found that children brought up in single-mother homes 'are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.' Single motherhood is like a farm team for future criminals and social outcasts.

....Many of these studies, for example, are from the 1990s, when the percentage of teenagers raised by single parents was lower than it is today. In 1990, 28 percent of children under eighteen were being raised in one-parent homes (mother or father), and 71 percent were being raised in two-parent homes. By 2005, more than one-third of all babies born in the United States were illegitimate. That's a lot of social problems coming.

...Imagine an America with 70 percent fewer juvenile delinquents, 70 percent fewer teenage births, 63 to 70 percent fewer teenage suicides, and 70 percent to 90 percent fewer runaways and you will appreciate what the sainted single mothers have accomplished." -- P.37-38

"But Americans used to be able to care about the circumstances of their children's births: The illegitimacy rate has gone up by more than 300 percent since 1970. Moreover, even assuming that, sometime around the year of 1969, the entire human race lost the ability to defer gratification, there's still the wholly volitional decision not to give the baby up for adoption.

"A 2008 study led by Georgia State University economist Benjamin Scafidi found that single mothers -- unwed or divorced -- cost the US taxpayer $112 billion every year." -- P.51
"According to the US Justice Department crime statistics, domestic abuse is virtually nonexistent for married women living with their husbands. From 1993 to 2005, the number of married women victimized by their husbands ranged from 0.9 to 3.2 per 1000. Domestic violence was about 40 times more likely among divorced or separated women, ranging from 37.7 to 118.5 per 1000. Even never married women were more than twice as likely to be victims of domestic violence as married women." -- P.57-58
Bureau of Justice Statistics Intimate Partner Violence in the U.S.

"A Cornell study found that unwed mothers are 30 percent less likely to marry than other single women..." -- P.70
From “Guilty”


Hey, but as long as you're happy....

 

[High_Gravity]

Americans in general have become more selfish, which is one of the reasons the institution of marriage is a failure. I appreciate your statistics that more children that come from 2 parent homes do well but what are we supposed to do? become a theocracy like Iran and force men and women to stay married to each other? if people are not happy in a marriage it will fail and they will leave it.

 

[JBeukema]

I clicked you link, pc, and didn't see the words you quoted