Is liberalism a hate movement??

Dorkazoid_Jones

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In the Orwellian world we live in, liberals try to get away with calling legislated inequality "progressive." That's at best a misnomer, because progressive tax rates are unequal and target ONLY economic inequalities not apprearance inequalities, not atheletic inequalities, not strength inequalities, and not a whole host of inequalities that we all face in our lives. Let's look at an example of how the progressive tax structure is immoral. Suppose we have two women. The first woman is beautiful and has had guys waiting on her hand and foot her whole life. She works as a secretary in a low pressure job, and creates nothing valuable to society. She's led a privileged life. We'll call her Miss Diva. The second woman is, how to put this delicately, not attractive. Yet, to her everliving credit, woman number two busts her ass academically gets into a top notch school, excels in the IT field and starts a successful small IT company. She starts earning a million dollars a year by having created software that increases productivity to the U.S. workplace. We'll call her IT Babe.

When you compare the two women, IT Babe started out with a lot less than Miss Diva, but through her hard work and dedication, she now has started levelling the playing field. Now the government comes in and tries to take a lot of that away from her by taxing her at 35% while privileged from birth Miss Diva only pays nothing because of her low salary.. Miss Diva is lazy and spoiled, but she pays no taxes??? HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT ABOUT EQUALITY???? In fact it's immoral. The U.S., or any country for that matter, should reward productive people. Why do liberals only focus on money and paint this phony world where everyone is equal except money?? The IT babe with some coin is still not going to have an easy time in society because of her looks but her hard work and productivity has at least OFFSET SOME OF THE NATURAL INEQUALITY WE ALL FACE BEFORE WE EVEN DISCUSS MONEY! What other conclusion can be reached except that liberals resent achievement and think the genetic lottery is more important at determining your fate than hard work and productivity.

When arguments are made on this message board about tax the rich bastards into oblivion because they can afford it, how is that any different than saying, "Hit that beautiful bitch with a bat and her face will still be prettier than most women"?? Would we stand for that?? Of course not. Here's the sad irony liberals never understand. When Miss Diva was born with advantages she didn't earn, we don't tax her advantages. However, when some unattractive girl improvises, adapts, and overcomes and becomes a valuable member to society THEN liberals pounce with higher tax rates and demonization of her as rich. In short, liberals resent achievement, and want to trap everyone into the inequality they were born with. What a misguided bunch these so called "progressives" are. Karl Marx was a dolt who never understood that inequality is about more than money. A hundred years later, liberals still haven't figured it out. Talk about a slow learning curve...
 
Excuse me for disturbing the ignorant echo chamber. Just passing through with reality.
 
The Liberal/progressive standard bearers do not care about people.

It is evident in their proposals and rhetoric.

Do what we say or else. We will pass laws to force you to make the decisions we deem correct for you whether you agree or not.

You do no not deserve to keep what is yours when we deem that another is more deserving than you.

We will pass laws to make you comply and then tax you for the privilege of being ruled by us

You are not smart enough to make your own decisions therefore we will make them for you.

Yeah sounds like a real caring philosophy.
 
You people are insane.

The government is not there to deside who is prettier or how people should prioritize their lifes.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ring a bell?


The tax structure is to collect what we need to run the country.

The one who makes more money pays more taxes because they benifited more from the infrastructure.

People who are merely subsistance level are not using the infrastructure at the same level as a business owner who is shipping product daily.

The rich people get deductions and they can use those wisely to cut their taxes tremendously.

They are smart enough to figure it out.
 
Long before Johan Goldberg's book, I had posting that you can easily find a frothing fascist by scratching the surface of any Librul ever so lightly.
 
In the Orwellian world we live in, liberals try to get away with calling legislated inequality "progressive." That's at best a misnomer, because progressive tax rates are unequal and target ONLY economic inequalities not apprearance inequalities, not atheletic inequalities, not strength inequalities, and not a whole host of inequalities that we all face in our lives. Let's look at an example of how the progressive tax structure is immoral. Suppose we have two women. The first woman is beautiful and has had guys waiting on her hand and foot her whole life. She works as a secretary in a low pressure job, and creates nothing valuable to society. She's led a privileged life. We'll call her Miss Diva. The second woman is, how to put this delicately, not attractive. Yet, to her everliving credit, woman number two busts her ass academically gets into a top notch school, excels in the IT field and starts a successful small IT company. She starts earning a million dollars a year by having created software that increases productivity to the U.S. workplace. We'll call her IT Babe.

When you compare the two women, IT Babe started out with a lot less than Miss Diva, but through her hard work and dedication, she now has started levelling the playing field. Now the government comes in and tries to take a lot of that away from her by taxing her at 35% while privileged from birth Miss Diva only pays nothing because of her low salary.. Miss Diva is lazy and spoiled, but she pays no taxes??? HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT ABOUT EQUALITY???? In fact it's immoral. The U.S., or any country for that matter, should reward productive people. Why do liberals only focus on money and paint this phony world where everyone is equal except money?? The IT babe with some coin is still not going to have an easy time in society because of her looks but her hard work and productivity has at least OFFSET SOME OF THE NATURAL INEQUALITY WE ALL FACE BEFORE WE EVEN DISCUSS MONEY! What other conclusion can be reached except that liberals resent achievement and think the genetic lottery is more important at determining your fate than hard work and productivity.

When arguments are made on this message board about tax the rich bastards into oblivion because they can afford it, how is that any different than saying, "Hit that beautiful bitch with a bat and her face will still be prettier than most women"?? Would we stand for that?? Of course not. Here's the sad irony liberals never understand. When Miss Diva was born with advantages she didn't earn, we don't tax her advantages. However, when some unattractive girl improvises, adapts, and overcomes and becomes a valuable member to society THEN liberals pounce with higher tax rates and demonization of her as rich. In short, liberals resent achievement, and want to trap everyone into the inequality they were born with. What a misguided bunch these so called "progressives" are. Karl Marx was a dolt who never understood that inequality is about more than money. A hundred years later, liberals still haven't figured it out. Talk about a slow learning curve...

They are progressives not liberals, just like the ideals you describe ;).

Progressives, IMO, are doing the most damage to our country.
 
"The government is not there to deside who is prettier or how people should prioritize their lifes."

But if the government is not going to consider all attributes of individuals which give thema advantages, than how can they talk about equality when only money is considered??? This is why Karl Marx is such a dope. The only thing that mattered to him was money. Which is ironic because he wanted to make things not about money. Ah, ok Karl. God what a dope he was...

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ring a bell?"

EXACTLY! So in the example of the IT babe pursuing her own happiness gets dragged down by a supposed equality seeking tax structure which limits the IT babe from fairly levelling the playing field with the lazy Diva. How is that fair??? That's leglislated INEQUALITY!

"The one who makes more money pays more taxes because they benifited more from the infrastructure. People who are merely subsistance level are not using the infrastructure at the same level as a business owner who is shipping product daily."

The IT babe is already paying a lot more taxes by virtue of her making more money. And as far as infrastructure, I think you have your cause and effect reversed. If there weren't businesses producing anything there would't be any infrastructure, so the IT babe for instance should be paying less for infrastructure since she's producing something while the Diva is not.

"The rich people get deductions and they can use those wisely to cut their taxes tremendously."

A beautiful woman can still get hit in the face with a bat and still be prettier than her friends. Does that make it right???
 
"The government is not there to deside who is prettier or how people should prioritize their lifes."

But if the government is not going to consider all attributes of individuals which give thema advantages, than how can they talk about equality when only money is considered??? This is why Karl Marx is such a dope. The only thing that mattered to him was money. Which is ironic because he wanted to make things not about money. Ah, ok Karl. God what a dope he was...

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ring a bell?"

EXACTLY! So in the example of the IT babe pursuing her own happiness gets dragged down by a supposed equality seeking tax structure which limits the IT babe from fairly levelling the playing field with the lazy Diva. How is that fair??? That's leglislated INEQUALITY!

"The one who makes more money pays more taxes because they benifited more from the infrastructure. People who are merely subsistance level are not using the infrastructure at the same level as a business owner who is shipping product daily."

The IT babe is already paying a lot more taxes by virtue of her making more money. And as far as infrastructure, I think you have your cause and effect reversed. If there weren't businesses producing anything there would't be any infrastructure, so the IT babe for instance should be paying less for infrastructure since she's producing something while the Diva is not.

"The rich people get deductions and they can use those wisely to cut their taxes tremendously."

A beautiful woman can still get hit in the face with a bat and still be prettier than her friends. Does that make it right???

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_X1xJ1_LBU]YouTube - Arguing With Idiots- Ben Franklin vs. Karl Marx[/ame]

:lol:
 
"The government is not there to deside who is prettier or how people should prioritize their lifes."

But if the government is not going to consider all attributes of individuals which give thema advantages, than how can they talk about equality when only money is considered??? This is why Karl Marx is such a dope. The only thing that mattered to him was money. Which is ironic because he wanted to make things not about money. Ah, ok Karl. God what a dope he was...

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ring a bell?"

COLOR="olive"]EXACTLY! So in the example of the IT babe pursuing her own happiness gets dragged down by a supposed equality seeking tax structure which limits the IT babe from fairly levelling the playing field with the lazy Diva. How is that fair??? That's leglislated INEQUALITY![[/COLOR]

"The one who makes more money pays more taxes because they benifited more from the infrastructure. People who are merely subsistance level are not using the infrastructure at the same level as a business owner who is shipping product daily."

The IT babe is already paying a lot more taxes by virtue of her making more money. And as far as infrastructure, I think you have your cause and effect reversed. If there weren't businesses producing anything there would't be any infrastructure, so the IT babe for instance should be paying less for infrastructure since she's producing something while the Diva is not.
How can there be any infrastructure if there is no tax revenue to build or maiuntain it?
"The rich people get deductions and they can use those wisely to cut their taxes tremendously."

A beautiful woman can still get hit in the face with a bat and still be prettier than her friends. Does that make it right???
this has nothing to do with the government
 
The tax structure is to collect what we need to run the country.

Wait to miss the point by a mile.

The one who makes more money pays more taxes because they benifited more from the infrastructure.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG. Where the fuck do people like you get their warped sense of reality? You understand nothing about success or how it is achieved in this country. It is because of one thing and one thing only. Liberals like yourself will NEVER take ownership for your level of success or lack of it.

People who are merely subsistance level are not using the infrastructure at the same level as a business owner who is shipping product daily.

The rich people get deductions and they can use those wisely to cut their taxes tremendously.

They are smart enough to figure it out.

No that is not why are tax system the way it is. If it were it still could not be considered even close to fair even by that standard. The only infrastructure you can legitimatly argue is the use of roads. Does that warrant a double digit difference in tax rates? I think not. If that's really how we should do it shouldn't we more precisely be calculating who really is using the roads instead of just assuming all business use it the same amount and should be taxed the same amount?
 
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"this has nothing to do with the government "

The point is it's impossible to try and create equality thru the tax code. People have more differences than just money. Therefore, trying to legislate equality thru unequal tax rates is not only undoable, in many cases it is immoral. When are liberals going to admit this and stop their hate filled rants about achievers? It's ok to be jealous of a millionaire, but it's not any more ok to hit them with a figurative tax bat, than it is to hit a pretty woman in the face with a real bat because "those people still have more." How immoral. Progressives should be renamed the oppressives... Obama, stop lelgislating jealousy and hatred thru the tax rates...
 

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