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Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.
 
Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.

Which would also mean that Biden wqas elected on an invalid ticket.

Hello President Boehner.
 
Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.

I am going to kindly request a link to a mainstream media outlet which corroborates the World Net Daily articles.

You should be able to link to Fox News as they likely will have the story (since they are Fair and Balanced and are not a member of the liberal MSM).
 
Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.

 
Mini 14 said:
Which would also mean that Biden wqas elected on an invalid ticket.

Hello President Boehner.

His acceptance speech might last for days, as he struggled between sobs and lost his place in his script.
 
Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.

I am going to kindly request a link to a mainstream media outlet which corroborates the World Net Daily articles.

You should be able to link to Fox News as they likely will have the story (since they are Fair and Balanced and are not a member of the liberal MSM).

'This is a collaborative endeavor' - Hawaii Editorials - Staradvertiser.com

This is where the latest news originated, not WND. Lot's of stuff doesnt get into the mainstream press, especially news this sensitive. The fact remains no birth certificate has ever been produced, and when a sitting governor cannot find it, that's significant.
 
the original article does not at all support WND's claim he cannot find it, in fact, it says the opposite:

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...
 
People who buy into these lies in the face of facts harm our country

I run conspiracy theory forum myself, and let me tell you, the Obama Birther conspiracy theory is one of the most popular. I even added an entire section dedicated to just that conspiracy theory, that's how many people believe it.
 
the original article does not at all support WND's claim he cannot find it, in fact, it says the opposite:

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

The WND article includes that quote and goes on to say

"Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed."

Again, someone phoning the state to advise them of the birth, while it may have been written down on some form, does not serve as proof that the birth occurred in Hawaii. In my opinion, if a full fledged birth certificate cannot be produced, which appears to be the case, then the burden of proof is on Obama.
 
the original article does not at all support WND's claim he cannot find it, in fact, it says the opposite:

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

The WND article includes that quote and goes on to say

"Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed."

Again, someone phoning the state to advise them of the birth, while it may have been written down on some form, does not serve as proof that the birth occurred in Hawaii. In my opinion, if a full fledged birth certificate cannot be produced, which appears to be the case, then the burden of proof is on Obama.

the governor never stated he couldn't find it...that is pure fiction

have you forgot about these statements:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."
 
Is it possible that Baraq Obama is not really the President? Hawaiian governor Neil Abercrombie, who had vowed to produce proof of Obama’s birth, is now saying that a certificate of birth cannot be located in the States Office of Vital Statistics. Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate No birth certificate? If he was indeed born in Hawaii, there would have to be one, and if the governor can’t find it, it isn’t there. The upshot is that there is no proof of Obama’s Hawaiian birth.

Folks, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not in fact the President. Electability by the American voter base is predicated upon qualification to be President under the Constitution, which we all know requires U. S. born citizenship. The fact that he received the popular vote in a Presidential election cannot make him the President if he is not a citizen. For example, If a plebiscite were held today and 100% of Americans voted to retract the right to bear arms, it would not rescind the second amendment. By definition the constitution is immune from the popular will unless amended in the proper manner. Likewise, popular election to a federal office is invalid if the candidate is not fully qualified to hold it. Unless proven otherwise, lacking qualification to be president, Obama is not and never has been President, and when there is no President to carry out the duties of the office then the Vice President assumes the role.

Here is the nub of the case against Obama as President:

1)The aforementioned lack of birth certificate to be found in the office of vital stats.

2)The Certificate of Live birth, provided by Obama, is not proof Obama was born in Hawaii. It says right on the certificate that its purpose is merely to prove that a live birth occurred, not where it occurred. Anyone could phone in such a report to the state to generate such a certificate, such as, for example, Obama’s white grandparents who lived in Hawaii. BTW, the Hawaii Department of Health refuses to endorse the Certificate of Live Birth.

3)The former Elections Administrator for Honolulu, Tim Adams, states that when Obama was campaigning for the Presidency, he was called upon to obtain proof of his Hawaiian birth. He says he found that no birth certificate existed, and further stated that when he contacted the two local hospitals where Obama might have been born, both said they had no record of his birth. Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

4)The most likely reason Obama has steadfastly refuses to produce the certificate is because he can’t because it does not exist. The birth certificate would show what hospital, the doctor who delivered, those in attendance, in other words verifiable facts that could easily be proven or disproven. If he tried to issue a fake certificate its veracity would be undermined almost immediately.

5)Obama’s maternal grandmother has told many people, in fact brags about the fact he was born in Mombosso, Kenya. Obama’s Grandmother Insists Obama born in Kenya | Affidavit of Rev Kweli Shuhubia Boycott Oprah’s Sponsors Brands His half sister and brother have said they also were present for his Kenyan birth. Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Israel National News

All the clues are beginning to add up here as to why Obama won’t put this controversy to rest. We know his mother flew to Kenya late in her pregnancy, and returned to Hawaii a short time later (either before or after his birth), and then three weeks later flew to Seattle to attend the University of Washington. Obama’s father lived in Honolulu in a separate apartment from his mother. Obama’s mother did not return to Hawaii until after his father moved out of the state in June of 1962. Obviously this was not a normal nuclear marriage. Given that interracial relationships were almost unheard of back then, is it possible she flew to Kenya to have the baby in order to conceal this fact? If so, that would certainly explain why no birth certificate can be found.

If Obama is not of U.S. origin, then his Presidency is null and void, and any laws and executive orders that contain his signature are invalid. I would like to see the House of Representative commence hearings on the matter and subpoena Obama and the Hawaii Department of Vital Statistics to produce the certificate. If it is found he was born in Kenya instead of America then there is no need for impeachment proceedings since he is not the president, and he must be ushered out of the oval office and tried for fraud.

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Just goes to show, we can never have too many threads about Obama's BC. This shit just never gets old.

*Yawn. I think the OP may have cured my insomnia.*
 
the original article does not at all support WND's claim he cannot find it, in fact, it says the opposite:

The WND article includes that quote and goes on to say

"Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed."

Again, someone phoning the state to advise them of the birth, while it may have been written down on some form, does not serve as proof that the birth occurred in Hawaii. In my opinion, if a full fledged birth certificate cannot be produced, which appears to be the case, then the burden of proof is on Obama.

the governor never stated he couldn't find it...that is pure fiction

have you forgot about these statements:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

I suppose that would suffice if that were the end of it. But the new governor of Hawaii promised he would produce the certificate to finally bring an end to the speculation, and he cannot do it. That's what has raised my antenna. In this U.S. News article from today he states that he has an ongoing investigation into the matter. Hawaii gov says state has Obama birth form - UPI.com This in itself is highly suspicous. Why do you need to investigate if you are the governor? As governor, if you request a document from a state run department, the request would be fulfilled in an expedited fashion. How long can it take to find a birth certificate in a small state like Hawaii? A civil servant locates the roll of microfiche with records from the date of Obamas birth, scrolls through it to locate his certificate, and prints a copy. It should have been on his desk before the end of the day he requested it.

I don't know who is lying, Fukino or Tim Adams, but somebody certainly is not telling the truth. Which begs the question why Obama has allowed this controversy to persist if he really can produce the certificate. Somethings not right here, and Im willing to bet that Abercrombie probably will not come up with the genuine birth certificate. My best guess is that if it was really out there it would have been presented to the American people by now . Abercrombie is right about one thing, if this isnt cleared up by 2012 its going to hurt any chance Obama has for reelection considering 14 percent of the American people, as the US News article states, dont believe the President was born in the U.S.
 
The WND article includes that quote and goes on to say

"Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed."

Again, someone phoning the state to advise them of the birth, while it may have been written down on some form, does not serve as proof that the birth occurred in Hawaii. In my opinion, if a full fledged birth certificate cannot be produced, which appears to be the case, then the burden of proof is on Obama.

the governor never stated he couldn't find it...that is pure fiction

have you forgot about these statements:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

I suppose that would suffice if that were the end of it. But the new governor of Hawaii promised he would produce the certificate to finally bring an end to the speculation, and he cannot do it. That's what has raised my antenna. In this U.S. News article from today he states that he has an ongoing investigation into the matter. Hawaii gov says state has Obama birth form - UPI.com This in itself is highly suspicous. Why do you need to investigate if you are the governor? As governor, if you request a document from a state run department, the request would be fulfilled in an expedited fashion. How long can it take to find a birth certificate in a small state like Hawaii? A civil servant locates the roll of microfiche with records from the date of Obamas birth, scrolls through it to locate his certificate, and prints a copy. It should have been on his desk before the end of the day he requested it.

I don't know who is lying, Fukino or Tim Adams, but somebody certainly is not telling the truth. Which begs the question why Obama has allowed this controversy to persist if he really can produce the certificate. Somethings not right here, and Im willing to bet that Abercrombie probably will not come up with the genuine birth certificate. My best guess is that if it was really out there it would have been presented to the American people by now . Abercrombie is right about one thing, if this isnt cleared up by 2012 its going to hurt any chance Obama has for reelection considering 14 percent of the American people, as the US News article states, dont believe the President was born in the U.S.

he never said he would produce it, he said he would determine if it exists and he did and it does.....

move along
 
We need to have a combination of a troofer thread, a birfer thread and a Palin thread.

It will be the perfect combination of suck, creating a vortex of suck the likes of which the world has never seen. Equivalent to division by zero.
 

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