Is it OK for Christians to lie if it means pushing a "moral" agenda

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    McCain: Repealing DADT will instigate more sexual assaults

    Hey, isn’t it against someone’s religion to bear “false witness” or “lie”? I thought it was part of some “commandments” or maybe one of those deities is against it? Jesus, Gawd, the Holy Ghost, or Satan. One of them. There are so many Gawds, I just can’t keep track.

    Tony Perkins: Repealing 'don't ask, don't tell' threatens military chaplains – Religion - CNN.com Blogs

    The group opened the press conference with prayer, asking for God to bless their efforts and to soften the hearts of senators and congressmen to their position.

    The strains - especially right now where you have people in one enlistment doing multiple tours of duty overseas - the strain on the family, the strain on the marriages.

    Stop McCain: Tell Your Senators to Repeal ?Don?t Ask Don?t Tell!? | Change.org

    John McCain and his friends in radical right-wing groups are putting enormous pressure on your senators to vote against equality. McCain's anti-gay vendetta is so desperate that he's announced he will help block the Senate from repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and the right-wing Family Research Council is making outlandish and bogus claims that that repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" will increase sexual assault in the military and "undermine the religious liberties" of military chaplains.
     
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    And which side is it which does all the moralizing about the elderly, infirm, pooooooor and the chiiillllllldrrrreeennnn, every time it's even suggested that the programs of the left's beloved socialistic welfare state get examined and pared back?

    Moralizing and projecting physician, heal thyself.
     
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    Republican Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer of the bible-thumping state of South Carolina revealed his very special version of compassionate conservatism during a recent speech to his constituents, when he compared poor people on welfare to stray cats and dogs. Providing hungry people with an “ample food supply,” says Bauer only encourages the great unwashed of our society to breed more poor wretches whom the state is forced to feed. The genteel Southern gentleman is shocked that the poor on the dole have the bad taste to reproduce right under his nose, and he proposes that South Carolina “curtail that type of behavior,” by cutting off their food supply of government cheese and food stamps. Because after all, the poor, just like stray animals, can’t control their distasteful sexual urges. “They don’t know any better,” Bauer said.

    SC Lt. Gov: Poor Like ‘Stray Animals,’ Don’t Feed Them or ‘They Breed’ | ChattahBox News Blog

    Hey, I'm with Republicans. Don't help them. Let them starve. That's the Republican agenda, right?
     
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    blablablablablablabla.

    Doesn't change the fact that when it's the left's turn at moralistic browbeating, they can be every bit as pious as anyone else.
     
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    rdean, disagreeing with you doesn't mean someone is lying. It simply means they disagree with you.

    It's not okay to lie. The Lord has commanded men to not bear false witness.

    And that command goes for everyone. Not just Christians. So please stop with your socialistic bullcrap.
     
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    Saying that allowing someone to admit they are gay without repercussions will lead to sexual assault is a lie.

    Saying that gays coming out puts a "strain on straight marriages" is a lie.

    Saying that allowing gays to exist will take away the rights of Military Chaplin's is a lie.

    These things are lies, NOT opinion.
     
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    "but you do it too" isn't an argument. Try again.
     
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    How the holy hell is DADT socialist?
     
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    How is rdean not an constantly lying to promote socialist/totalitarian government?

    I don't care about DADT. It's a liberal creation that liberals are not whining about because it's oppressive. If you didn't create it in the first place, we wouldn't have this stupid issue to worry about.

    This is exactly why we need less government. So politicians cant create stupid issues in order to set themselves up as the saviors when they repeal their creation.
     
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    DADT isn't a "liberal" creation. It's a "liberal - conservative" compromise to use the talents of gay people without having to face the fact they are gay. Does everything have to be explained?
     

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