Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

[Moonglow]

If I sculpt a statue, I have every right to smash it to bits.

You equate yourself with inanimate non-sentient matter do you?

I offer my sympathy to your dead mind.

Regards
DL

Please make sense so that I can respond.

The better response is:
KJ21
“Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, ‘What makest thou?’ or thy work, ‘He hath no hands’?

 

[evenflow1969]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have heard many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is, --- do as I say and not as I do for a law maker or anyone else, --- moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL



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Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

Ok I want to live forever and I will do it with free will.....Thanks for the laugh though.

How do you get the ability to live for ever with free will. What the fuck are you talking about! Do you think you are entitled to be immortal? The laws of nature and physics are what they are and you are entitled to live under these rules as you wish. You are responsible for the out come not god.

 

[GreatestIam]

OP asks a question, you answer with your opinion or ask a question, if the OP disagrees he insults you.

So does the OP want a discussion or does the OP just trolling?

By the way the question is a good question and I would love to see the different viewpoints.

Give your view point and we will see if you earn praise or insult.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

If I sculpt a statue, I have every right to smash it to bits.

You equate yourself with inanimate non-sentient matter do you?

I offer my sympathy to your dead mind.

Regards
DL

Please make sense so that I can respond.

What is senseless is your reading ability and initial response.

Regards
DL

I see. You're not merely ignorant with a hallucinogenically obtuse pattern, but a disquietingly tremorous pustule of vacuous nincompoopery as well.

Revel in your fugue state.

Long winded shows your low I. Q.

Bite me.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have heard many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is, --- do as I say and not as I do for a law maker or anyone else, --- moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL



https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...899a7c4752d2159028a6b023189ee73889029ab5ebe84

Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

To your first.
Thanks for the lie.

To the rest.
I cannot blame a fantasy for anything.

You might give your message to all the immoral Christians who plan to put the responsibility you speak of on Jesus as they use him as their scapegoat.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If I sculpt a statue, I have every right to smash it to bits.

You equate yourself with inanimate non-sentient matter do you?

I offer my sympathy to your dead mind.

Regards
DL

Please make sense so that I can respond.

What is senseless is your reading ability and initial response.

Regards
DL

I see. You're not merely ignorant with a hallucinogenically obtuse pattern, but a disquietingly tremorous pustule of vacuous nincompoopery as well.

Revel in your fugue state.

Long winded shows your low I. Q.

Bite me.

Regards
DL

A bumbling fool in a Halloween mortarboard is still a bumbling fool. Removing the mortarboard won't help, little man.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yes. God holds the keys of life and death. He can call us Home when He chooses. But He has also promised that we will have our life restored in the resurrection

 

[GreatestIam]

Yes. God holds the keys of life and death. He can call us Home when He chooses. But He has also promised that we will have our life restored in the resurrection

So you prefer to hide behind your supernatural garbage shield than to deal with the moral aspect of God being an Indian giver.

Thanks for showing your hypocrisy and religious focus, which should be but has nothing to do with morality.

Regards
DL

 

[harmonica]

......I just heard on a radio show, the announcer thanking god for his guest surviving the Thousand Oaks shooting


do you realize the irony?

 

[GreatestIam]

......I just heard on a radio show, the announcer thanking god for his guest surviving the Thousand Oaks shooting


do you realize the irony?

Indeed.

Just like the soldier praying to God that his bullet hits the mark before the other opposing soldiers prayers reach his God asking for the same favor.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards
DL

 

[LittleNipper]

......I just heard on a radio show, the announcer thanking god for his guest surviving the Thousand Oaks shooting


do you realize the irony?

Indeed.

Just like the soldier praying to God that his bullet hits the mark before the other opposing soldiers prayers reach his God asking for the same favor.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards
DL

You are under the opinion that if GOD exists HE is a murderer. Why is that the only possibility? Could it not be that GOD is preventing death and evil is ultimately bringing death about?. Perhaps it is only GOD who stands at the brink. When you deny GOD or wish GOD to let you alone, that results only in death. Frankly, as a solider I'd be praying that I wouldn't get shot, and not want to kill anyone unless it was to save my life...

 

[evenflow1969]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have heard many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is, --- do as I say and not as I do for a law maker or anyone else, --- moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL



https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...899a7c4752d2159028a6b023189ee73889029ab5ebe84

Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

To your first.
Thanks for the lie.

To the rest.
I cannot blame a fantasy for anything.

You might give your message to all the immoral Christians who plan to put the responsibility you speak of on Jesus as they use him as their scapegoat.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

I tell any one who will listen.

 

[GreatestIam]

......I just heard on a radio show, the announcer thanking god for his guest surviving the Thousand Oaks shooting


do you realize the irony?

Indeed.

Just like the soldier praying to God that his bullet hits the mark before the other opposing soldiers prayers reach his God asking for the same favor.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards
DL

You are under the opinion that if GOD exists HE is a murderer. Why is that the only possibility? Could it not be that GOD is preventing death and evil is ultimately bringing death about?. Perhaps it is only GOD who stands at the brink. When you deny GOD or wish GOD to let you alone, that results only in death. Frankly, as a solider I'd be praying that I wouldn't get shot, and not want to kill anyone unless it was to save my life...

A wasted read as you would be defending your life if you were on the battlefield.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have heard many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is, --- do as I say and not as I do for a law maker or anyone else, --- moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL



https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...899a7c4752d2159028a6b023189ee73889029ab5ebe84

Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

To your first.
Thanks for the lie.

To the rest.
I cannot blame a fantasy for anything.

You might give your message to all the immoral Christians who plan to put the responsibility you speak of on Jesus as they use him as their scapegoat.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

I tell any one who will listen.

If you are a moral person, which you are not, give them this at the same time unless you are a full blown hypocrite.

Bishop John Shelby Spong: Why Atonement Theology will Kill Christianity


Regards
DL

 

[evenflow1969]

Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

To your first.
Thanks for the lie.

To the rest.
I cannot blame a fantasy for anything.

You might give your message to all the immoral Christians who plan to put the responsibility you speak of on Jesus as they use him as their scapegoat.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

I tell any one who will listen.

If you are a moral person, which you are not, give them this at the same time unless you are a full blown hypocrite.

Bishop John Shelby Spong: Why Atonement Theology will Kill Christianity


Regards
DL

Well thank you for your judgment ass hole. What makes you think your judgement is any better than any one elses. If any one is lacking moral charactor it is you and your big mouth!

 

[harmonica]

I just heard on the radio again about the Cali Fires/deaths
it said a family prayed to get safely through the fire--and they did
the radio guy said ''their prayers were answered''......!!
really??!
do you realize the idiocy of this?

 

[LittleNipper]

Could not come at a better time.

??

Why is that?

Regards
DL

God gave man free will. You are responsible for your life here, god does not live it for you. Quit blaming god for your woes.

To your first.
Thanks for the lie.

To the rest.
I cannot blame a fantasy for anything.

You might give your message to all the immoral Christians who plan to put the responsibility you speak of on Jesus as they use him as their scapegoat.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

I tell any one who will listen.

If you are a moral person, which you are not, give them this at the same time unless you are a full blown hypocrite.

Bishop John Shelby Spong: Why Atonement Theology will Kill Christianity


Regards
DL

Sorry, but "Bishop" Shelby Spong is only digging a grave for his own dying church.and the total lack of any need for himself. Christ died to save that which was lost and not to furnish Mr Spong with a career. Anyone who doesn't realize that they need a Savior is not going to find one. And how will they find one if those like Mr Spong deny the need for one.

1 Corinthians 15 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
15 Now, brothers, I must remind you of the Good News which I proclaimed to you, and which you received, and on which you have taken your stand, 2 and by which you are being saved — provided you keep holding fast to the message I proclaimed to you. For if you don’t, your trust will have been in vain. 3 For among the first things I passed on to you was what I also received, namely this: the Messiah died for our sins, in accordance with what the Tanakh says; 4 and he was buried; and he was raised on the third day, in accordance with what the Tanakhsays; 5 and he was seen by Kefa, then by the Twelve; 6 and afterwards he was seen by more than five hundred brothers at one time, the majority of whom are still alive, though some have died. 7 Later he was seen by Ya‘akov, then by all the emissaries; 8 and last of all he was seen by me, even though I was born at the wrong time. 9 For I am the least of all the emissaries, unfit to be called an emissary, because I persecuted the Messianic Community of God. 10 But by God’s grace I am what I am, and his grace towards me was not in vain; on the contrary, I have worked harder than all of them, although it was not I but the grace of God with me. 11 Anyhow, whether I or they, this is what we proclaim, and this is what you believed.

12 But if it has been proclaimed that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, how is it that some of you are saying there is no such thing as a resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then the Messiah has not been raised; 14 and if the Messiah has not been raised, then what we have proclaimed is in vain; also your trust is in vain; 15 furthermore, we are shown up as false witnesses for God in having testified that God raised up the Messiah, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then the Messiah has not been raised either; 17 and if the Messiah has not been raised, your trust is useless, and you are still in your sins. 18 Also, if this is the case, those who died in union with the Messiah are lost. 19 If it is only for this life that we have put our hope in the Messiah, we are more pitiable than anyone.

20 But the fact is that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have died. 21 For since death came through a man, also the resurrection of the dead has come through a man. 22 For just as in connection with Adam all die, so in connection with the Messiah all will be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: the Messiah is the firstfruits; then those who belong to the Messiah, at the time of his coming; 24 then the culmination, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, after having put an end to every rulership, yes, to every authority and power. 25 For he has to rule until he puts all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be done away with will be death, 27 for “He put everything in subjection under his feet.” But when it says that “everything” has been subjected, obviously the word does not include God, who is himself the one subjecting everything to the Messiah. 28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be everything in everyone.

29 Were it otherwise, what would the people accomplish who are immersed on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not actually raised, why are people immersed for them? 30 For that matter, we ourselves — why do we keep facing danger hour by hour? 31 Brothers, by the right to be proud which the Messiah Yeshua our Lord gives me, I solemnly tell you that I die every day. 32 If my fighting with “wild beasts” in Ephesus was done merely on a human basis, what do I gain by it? If dead people are not raised, we might as well live by the saying, “Let’s eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!” 33 Don’t be fooled. “Bad company ruins good character.” 34 Come to your senses! Live righteously and stop sinning! There are some people who lack knowledge of God — I say this to your shame.

35 But someone will ask, “In what manner are the dead raised? What sort of body do they have?” 36 Stupid! When you sow a seed, it doesn’t come alive unless it first dies. 37 Also, what you sow is not the body that will be, but a bare seed of, say, wheat or something else; 38 but God gives it the body he intended for it; and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all living matter is the same living matter; on the contrary, there is one kind for human beings, another kind of living matter for animals, another for birds and another for fish. 40 Further, there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the beauty of heavenly bodies is one thing, while the beauty of earthly bodies is something else. 41 The sun has one kind of beauty, the moon another, the stars yet another; indeed, each star has its own individual kind of beauty.

42 So it is with the resurrection of the dead. When the body is “sown,” it decays; when it is raised, it cannot decay. 43 When sown, it is without dignity; when raised, it will be beautiful. When sown, it is weak; when raised, it will be strong. 44 When sown, it is an ordinary human body; when raised, it will be a body controlled by the Spirit. If there is an ordinary human body, there is also a body controlled by the Spirit. 45 In fact, the Tanakh says so: Adam, the first man, became a living human being; but the last “Adam” has become a life-giving Spirit. 46 Note, however, that the body from the Spirit did not come first, but the ordinary human one; the one from the Spirit comes afterwards. 47 The first man is from the earth, made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 People born of dust are like the man of dust, and people born from heaven are like the man from heaven; 49 and just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, so also we will bear the image of the man from heaven.

50 Let me say this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot share in the Kingdom of God, nor can something that decays share in what does not decay. 51 Look, I will tell you a secret — not all of us will die! But we will all be changed! 52 It will take but a moment, the blink of an eye, at the final shofar. For the shofar will sound, and the dead will be raised to live forever, and we too will be changed. 53 For this material which can decay must be clothed with imperishability, this which is mortal must be clothed with immortality. 54 When what decays puts on imperishability and what is mortal puts on immortality, then this passage in the Tanakhwill be fulfilled:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 “Death, where is your victory?
Death, where is your sting?”

56 The sting of death is sin; and sin draws its power from the Torah; 57 but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Yeshua the Messiah!

58 So, my dear brothers, stand firm and immovable, always doing the Lord’s work as vigorously as you can, knowing that united with the Lord your efforts are not in vain.

 

[LittleNipper]

I just heard on the radio again about the Cali Fires/deaths
it said a family prayed to get safely through the fire--and they did
the radio guy said ''their prayers were answered''......!!
really??!
do you realize the idiocy of this?

Are saying that they should not have prayed? Maybe everyone who died did so because they didn't pee on the flames and extinguish the fire on their own --- now that would be idiotic to imagine. However, for a family to pray for help is not. And the fact that they escaped was a miracle.

 

[LittleNipper]

......I just heard on a radio show, the announcer thanking god for his guest surviving the Thousand Oaks shooting


do you realize the irony?

Indeed.

Just like the soldier praying to God that his bullet hits the mark before the other opposing soldiers prayers reach his God asking for the same favor.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards
DL

You are under the opinion that if GOD exists HE is a murderer. Why is that the only possibility? Could it not be that GOD is preventing death and evil is ultimately bringing death about?. Perhaps it is only GOD who stands at the brink. When you deny GOD or wish GOD to let you alone, that results only in death. Frankly, as a solider I'd be praying that I wouldn't get shot, and not want to kill anyone unless it was to save my life...

A wasted read as you would be defending your life if you were on the battlefield.

Regards
DL

I most certainly would shoot back; however, my prayer would be that I would not be shot or get killed. I would never pray that my bullets would kill the enemy. Those that live by the sword will die by the sword.

 

[harmonica]

I just heard on the radio again about the Cali Fires/deaths
it said a family prayed to get safely through the fire--and they did
the radio guy said ''their prayers were answered''......!!
really??!
do you realize the idiocy of this?

Are saying that they should not have prayed? Maybe everyone who died did so because they didn't pee on the flames and extinguish the fire on their own --- now that would be idiotic to imagine. However, for a family to pray for help is not. And the fact that they escaped was a miracle.

so god saved them, but not the ones who died? why?
AND, people who pray never die/god saves some who pray-but not others?
freakin stupid/ridiculous--IDIOTIC/nonsensical
id·i·ot·ic
/ˌidēˈädik/
adjective
INFORMAL

1. very stupid.
   "I was able to hum its idiotic theme tune"
   synonyms: stupid, silly, foolish, witless, brainless, mindless, thoughtless, unintelligent; More