Is gun grabber nonsense behind this swat teams purchase of weapons...

2aguy

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This article looks at a purchase order going out for one type of weapon for this swat team...according to the gun writer their choice is pretty nonsensical...instead of an AR-15 short version...they want MP5s...the article lists quite a few reasons why this is a bad decision...

For me...it stinks of gun grabber, political correctness....they don't want AR-15s because of the gun grabber hysteria surrounding the weapon...what do you think?

WHERE THE EXPERTS AREN T Kentucky SWAT Team Demands Antiquated SMGS - Bearing Arms

When compared against compact AR-15 pattern carbines in .223 Remington/5.56 NATO, the MP5 comes up short in numerous ways:

  • 9mm is a pistol-caliber bullet, with much less energy to transfer into target (roughly 400 ft-lbs, depending on ammo used) than the rifle-caliber .223/5.56 (the common 55-grain M193 loading for the .223/5.56 transfers roughly 1,100 ft-lbs of energy). To have the same energy transfer to the target, officers will have to fire more rounds, increasing the risk to everyone downrange.


  • [*]9mm ammunition will not effectively penetrate common soft body armor sometimes worn by suspects, such as the armor worn by the robbers in the infamous North Hollywood shootout which saw 9mm bullets bounce off the suspects. In contrast, .223/556 will penetrate soft body armor consistently.


  • [*]9mm hollowpoints and FMJ rounds frequently over-penetrate building materials, and pose more of a risk to innocent civilians downrange when compared to the small, lighter, much higher velocity .223/5.56 bullets, which tend to yaw and fragment upon impact with building materials.


  • [*]9mm submachine guns have much shorter range than .223/5.56 carbines, limiting the situations in which the firearms can be used.
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    [*]MP5 SUGs are not as accurate at any range as are .223/5.56 carbines.
  • MP5 development is basically stagnant, with limited aftermarket or 3rd-party support. AR-15 development is not only constant, but is rapidly evolving as the platform continues to mature, making it more versatile as times goes by.


This also might be educational for actual gun grabbers...there is a reason why people choose the AR-15 for home defense...

Naw...gun grabbers will be gun grabbers...actual facts do not trump their irrational fears...
 

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