Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?

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    Is God’s plan on track? Were we created to be sinners?


    Many think that God has a plan for all of us sinners, a perfect plan actually, to get as many of us into heaven as possible. Even all of us, if God is as perfect as some say he is. No God worth the title would have it any other way.


    God's plan can never go off track or be fouled as that would show a weakness in God and his ability to plan perfectly.


    The above being irrefutable, if there is a God and a plan, indicates that this reality is the best that Yahweh can accomplish?


    It is interesting that scriptures say that to backslide is evil, while it ignores that if there is a plan in place, then the world is in it’s best possible form. Scriptures that show a backsliding God and world must be wrong.


    Thanks to God’s plan, we are living in perfection. To think otherwise would be seeing God get a fail on maintaining the initial perfection of creation.


    In the beginning, all was perfect. That perfection cannot be allowed to backslide if there is a God.



    Do you see God as a backslider or a God whose plan is running along in a perfect way?


    Sing the hymn with me of Adam’s sin. It says that Adam’s sin was a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.


    Were we created to be sinners?


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    No. Human beings. We are creatures which came from his creation.

    Apparently you have an unreasonable expectation for utopia. Wherever did you get that crazy ass notion?
     
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    You think it is all a fairytale so you treat it like it is a fairytale. No wonder you can’t decipher the message.
     
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    There is no reason to accept you have the faculties to decipher any message.
     
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    We are not all sinners to you? I guess that scriptures that say otherwise are all lying. Right?

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    Do you believe that talking serpents and donkeys are real?

    Are they not the stuff of fairy tales for adults?

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    You seem to have our friends number correctly. I usually ignore him and he will soon turn to idiocies.

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    why do you sin/free will
    god's plan is so great
    1940s we have the greatest:
    murder
    rape
    robbery
    destruction
    etc
    also, god's most ''important'' creation is very flawed/etc
     
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    I can’t tell you how much that means coming from someone who believes the G-d of Abraham is a fairytale after being presented with information that proves otherwise.

    That is only because what it means to me is too small to be measured. :rofl:
     
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    Your wording is imprecise.

    With the exception of Mary and Jesus all human beings are sinners. It may be helpful for you to understand what sin is though. Sin is anything which distances us from God.

    The above beliefs are consistent with Scripture and are what I believe.

    I also believe you are a fake; a pretender; and a subversive.
     

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