because he did not want to stick us with hillary.....he doesnt like her either...Why did God stick us with Trump?
Is God testing us?
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because he did not want to stick us with hillary.....he doesnt like her either...Why did God stick us with Trump?
Is God testing us?
The toughest question Religious folks must answer of skeptics is, "Why does God allow this to happen?"
Whether you are talking about human-engineered genocide, natural catastrophes, mass murder, or some other apparent injustice, "God" appears to have permitted it to happen (or commanded it to happen), and Why does God allow it to happen?
On the other side of the coin, we have evil people who are born wealthy, talented, beautiful, handsome, or are wildly successful - sometimes BECAUSE they are evil. They live their entire lives in the lap of luxury and die happy. How does God allow THIS to happen?
The core of the response is in life after death. We are taught to believe that the totality of human existence is not bounded by conception and natural death; that in some vaguely-defined way Evil is punished in the afterlife and Virtue is rewarded. The balancing effect of the "just desserts" of the afterlife excuses the obvious injustices (and this word is insufficient, certainly) of the life that we see.
If there is no afterlife, then God, if he does exist, is Evil.
Manifestly.
By Pogo's logic, God is an asshole since he made Pogo, who is an asshole.
Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.Is God evil for creating Satan even though he knew what Satan would do?The toughest question Religious folks must answer of skeptics is, "Why does God allow this to happen?"
Whether you are talking about human-engineered genocide, natural catastrophes, mass murder, or some other apparent injustice, "God" appears to have permitted it to happen (or commanded it to happen), and Why does God allow it to happen?
On the other side of the coin, we have evil people who are born wealthy, talented, beautiful, handsome, or are wildly successful - sometimes BECAUSE they are evil. They live their entire lives in the lap of luxury and die happy. How does God allow THIS to happen?
The core of the response is in life after death. We are taught to believe that the totality of human existence is not bounded by conception and natural death; that in some vaguely-defined way Evil is punished in the afterlife and Virtue is rewarded. The balancing effect of the "just desserts" of the afterlife excuses the obvious injustices (and this word is insufficient, certainly) of the life that we see.
If there is no afterlife, then God, if he does exist, is Evil.
Manifestly.
The angels had free will. 1/3 chose to rebel. God knew they would. And look at the havoc they bring every day.
What’s Gods options?
1. A perfect world where no one can do evil because they’re mindless robots.
2. A world filled with choices and contrasts.
God chose #2.
You have no clue what free choice means.Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.Is God evil for creating Satan even though he knew what Satan would do?The toughest question Religious folks must answer of skeptics is, "Why does God allow this to happen?"
Whether you are talking about human-engineered genocide, natural catastrophes, mass murder, or some other apparent injustice, "God" appears to have permitted it to happen (or commanded it to happen), and Why does God allow it to happen?
On the other side of the coin, we have evil people who are born wealthy, talented, beautiful, handsome, or are wildly successful - sometimes BECAUSE they are evil. They live their entire lives in the lap of luxury and die happy. How does God allow THIS to happen?
The core of the response is in life after death. We are taught to believe that the totality of human existence is not bounded by conception and natural death; that in some vaguely-defined way Evil is punished in the afterlife and Virtue is rewarded. The balancing effect of the "just desserts" of the afterlife excuses the obvious injustices (and this word is insufficient, certainly) of the life that we see.
If there is no afterlife, then God, if he does exist, is Evil.
Manifestly.
The angels had free will. 1/3 chose to rebel. God knew they would. And look at the havoc they bring every day.
What’s Gods options?
1. A perfect world where no one can do evil because they’re mindless robots.
2. A world filled with choices and contrasts.
God chose #2.
Or maybe it's you who have no clue what free choice means.You have no clue what free choice means.Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.
Well, your position that people are just born bad people and can never be good is interesting to say the least.Or maybe it's you who have no clue what free choice means.You have no clue what free choice means.Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.
Is it your position that everyone is a blank slate and they choose what they become?Well, your position that people are just born bad people and can never be good is interesting to say the least.Or maybe it's you who have no clue what free choice means.You have no clue what free choice means.Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.
So everyone in prison had no choice in their life. They’re just criminals and always going to be criminals?Is it your position that everyone is a blank slate and they choose what they become?Well, your position that people are just born bad people and can never be good is interesting to say the least.Or maybe it's you who have no clue what free choice means.You have no clue what free choice means.Limiting God's choices? He created Mother Theresa and Stalin, both had free will. He could have created more Mother Theresas and fewer Stalins but chose not to.
I think genetics play an important role and has a major impact on our 'free choice'. Do people choose to be gay or are they born that way? Do people choose to be sociopaths or are they born that way?
Lots of absolutes in that reply. I think reality is more nuanced.So everyone in prison had no choice in their life. They’re just criminals and always going to be criminals?Is it your position that everyone is a blank slate and they choose what they become?
I think genetics play an important role and has a major impact on our 'free choice'. Do people choose to be gay or are they born that way? Do people choose to be sociopaths or are they born that way?
That would be a horrible worldview in my opinion. Not to mention it ignores forgiveness, redemption and mercy.God is not good, per se, to idolaters, who were the Old Covenant people exiled from the Garden.
He is good to those who worship only Him, who are the New Covenant saints in the restored Garden, i.e., the Christians.
It's biblical, and it does not ignore mercy and redemption.That would be a horrible worldview in my opinion. Not to mention it ignores forgiveness, redemption and mercy.God is not good, per se, to idolaters, who were the Old Covenant people exiled from the Garden.
He is good to those who worship only Him, who are the New Covenant saints in the restored Garden, i.e., the Christians.
Sure. Free will isn't about what one will be or desire to be. Free will is about the choices one makes. I can't choose to be an NBA player, but I can make choices to do the things that might make me an NBA player.Lots of absolutes in that reply. I think reality is more nuanced.So everyone in prison had no choice in their life. They’re just criminals and always going to be criminals?Is it your position that everyone is a blank slate and they choose what they become?
I think genetics play an important role and has a major impact on our 'free choice'. Do people choose to be gay or are they born that way? Do people choose to be sociopaths or are they born that way?
Do you have free will if your genes push you in a particular direction? Can you be a marathon runner if you're born without legs?
I don't think the Bible says that God is bad to people who don't worship him which is what is implied when you said God is good to those who worship only Him.It's biblical, and it does not ignore mercy and redemption.That would be a horrible worldview in my opinion. Not to mention it ignores forgiveness, redemption and mercy.God is not good, per se, to idolaters, who were the Old Covenant people exiled from the Garden.
He is good to those who worship only Him, who are the New Covenant saints in the restored Garden, i.e., the Christians.
"God's role can be understood as the creator of a universe in which everything is in balance, but maintaining that balance can require violent events."Regarding the trials and tribulations coming out of Mother Nature, God's role can be understood as the creator of a universe in which everything is in balance, but maintaining that balance can require violent events. There are storms, earthquakes, floods, droughts, lightning strikes, volcano eruptions, movement of the tectonic plates, and so on...and these are part of the overall system that remains more or less in balance. The same can be said of infectious diseases and cancers. They are a part of nature that we don't understand, but so be it. And if these things impact humans - God's ultimate creation - that cannot be avoided, and the "unfairness" of it is rectified in the afterlife. As stated above.
As for humans' inhumanity, it is explained by free will, without which there can be no virtue or evil. Mother Teresa's free will was used in her way, Hitler's was used in his way. Most of us fall somewhere in between, but it is our choice, individually. God does not interfere; he merely balances the scale in the afterlife. Virtue is rewarded; Evil is punished. In the afterlife.
But again, if there is no afterlife (assuming there is a god), then God is evil.
And if there is no afterlife, we have cause to be ethical, but no reason to be "moral." Morality is based on the presumed existence of a Higher Authority, which/who teaches us the "best" way to live. Without that Higher Authority, it's simply up to us.
Don't get caught. If you can pull off the Perfect Crime, good on you.
If there is no God and if there is no afterlife.