Is Glen Beck going to Egypt?

[Avatar4321]

Excuse me? Jesus was a liberal.

"Whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do to me."

I see nothing about having the government do anything for you in that statement.

Good Lord, which do you want to discuss? The Bible or the government? Or how about the Constitution? I'm sure you've got naive opinions about that, too.

I'm not the one claiming that Jesus Christ taught a social movement created nearly 1800 years after His death and resurrection.

You're the one making claims that Jesus belonged to your political philosophy. Yet in reality he taught the exact opposite. He never taught that people should outsource their responsibilities to government. He told people they should embrace their responsibility. He didn't outsource charity. He did charity.

He didn't use force, He persuaded, invited, exhorted people to reconnect with their God and fulfilled their earthly responsibilities.

You think using violence to "provide for the poor" is what Jesus wanted?

That's seriously screwed up.

 

[Avatar4321]

Beck only recently "pledged" non-violence. Until Congresswoman Giffords was shot, he was infamous for pulling stunts like pouring gasoline on a planted guest and pretending it was Obama.

I've said it before, Glenn Beck is to me the most dangerous man in the country simply because he has managed to brainwash millions of people, many of whom who were once just old-fashioned, clear-thinking partisans, by planting vicious thoughts in their heads, all in the guise of patriotism and Christianity.

Beck's been talking about non-violence for nearly 2 years. Emphasizing it the most for several months prior to the 8-28 event.

As for pouring gasoline on somone, please provide evidence.

And yes, Glenn is a horrible person for encouraging people to study history and faith and discover who they really are. He is such a horrible person for encouraging individuals to be honest, to have faith, to be charitable. He is ruining our country by encouraging people to get out of debt, to simplify their lives, to get involved in their community.

These are such horrible things because you lose when these principles are embraced.

 

[Avatar4321]

Wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately, every single day the far right fanatics prove how much they, shall we say 'disapprove of' Mexicans, blacks, all Muslims, poor people, Americans left of the far-right, etc. Solidarity? My ass.

Actually quite the opposite. We empower them. We don't treat them like morons like you do.

It's a mess up society when we live in when people honestly think telling people that because they have a certain skin color they can't make it without assistance from superior people is good and encouraging people of all skin colors to develop their skills and better their life is somehow bad.

that is a pretty pithy conclusion/post.

It kind of assumes that people of a certain skin color are inferior.

That's the problem with liberalism. It does assume that people of a certain skin color are inferior. That is my entire point.

The entire argument of the left is that minorities need government to help them because they are too stupid, incompetant, or unqualified to do anything for themselves.

The argument from the right is that all men are created equal and all men can become empowered to govern themselves regardless of the color of their skin.

The difference between the left and the right is the left thinks you can't. we think you can.

 

[uscitizen]

I see nothing about having the government do anything for you in that statement.

Good Lord, which do you want to discuss? The Bible or the government? Or how about the Constitution? I'm sure you've got naive opinions about that, too.

I'm not the one claiming that Jesus Christ taught a social movement created nearly 1800 years after His death and resurrection.

You're the one making claims that Jesus belonged to your political philosophy. Yet in reality he taught the exact opposite. He never taught that people should outsource their responsibilities to government. He told people they should embrace their responsibility. He didn't outsource charity. He did charity.

He didn't use force, He persuaded, invited, exhorted people to reconnect with their God and fulfilled their earthly responsibilities.

You think using violence to "provide for the poor" is what Jesus wanted?

That's seriously screwed up.

Sigh. You are losing it your desperation now.

 

[Avatar4321]

Sigh. You are losing it your desperation now.

Stating facts about reality is desperation now?

Obviously you didnt know how else to respond to what I said. What am I wrong about? Where did Jesus Christ every advocating outsourcing our responsibilities to government? When did encourage government to do anything? When did he suggest we use violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others?

Point to a single scripture anywhere where he even hinted at any of that.

 

[uscitizen]

Sigh. You are losing it your desperation now.

Stating facts about reality is desperation now?

Obviously you didnt know how else to respond to what I said. What am I wrong about? Where did Jesus Christ every advocating outsourcing our responsibilities to government? When did encourage government to do anything? When did he suggest we use violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others?

Point to a single scripture anywhere where he even hinted at any of that.

I am glad I do not see reality as you do.

 

[Avatar4321]

Sigh. You are losing it your desperation now.

Stating facts about reality is desperation now?

Obviously you didnt know how else to respond to what I said. What am I wrong about? Where did Jesus Christ every advocating outsourcing our responsibilities to government? When did encourage government to do anything? When did he suggest we use violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others?

Point to a single scripture anywhere where he even hinted at any of that.

I am glad I do not see reality as you do.

You can look at it anyway you want, reality is not going to change.

Shall I presume from your lack of substantive response that you aren't going to provide any?

 

[MaggieMae]

So sorry I couldn't whip off the top of my head chapter and verse, but the "social justice movement" is most assuredly based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

His moral teachings in Matthew and Luke encourage unconditional self-sacrificing God-like love for God and for all people.[95] During his sermons, he preached about service and humility, the forgiveness of sin, faith, turning the other cheek, love for one's enemies as well as friends, and the need to follow the spirit of the law in addition to the letter.[96]

Any fool knows that.

The Social justice movement is a perversion of everything Jesus taught.

Any fool knows that.

I guess you don't approve of the Civil Rights Act, then.

 

[MaggieMae]

Wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately, every single day the far right fanatics prove how much they, shall we say 'disapprove of' Mexicans, blacks, all Muslims, poor people, Americans left of the far-right, etc. Solidarity? My ass.

Actually quite the opposite. We empower them. We don't treat them like morons like you do.

It's a mess up society when we live in when people honestly think telling people that because they have a certain skin color they can't make it without assistance from superior people is good and encouraging people of all skin colors to develop their skills and better their life is somehow bad.

If only the right was willing to do that, there would be no need for "social justice." Period.

And you're way off base with your generalization, but I'm certainly not surprised.

 

[MaggieMae]

Oh yeah, those are the real news channels that report the news instead of opinion. You may find them a little dry, but they actually REPORT THE NEWS AS IT IS WITHOUT OPINION.

Yes, BBC was biased: Mark Thompson admits a 'massive' lean to Left | Mail Online

The BBC has long been accused of being institutionally biased towards the Left, and an internal report from 2007 said it had to make greater efforts to avoid liberal bias.
That report criticised the BBC for coming late to several important stories including euroscepticism and immigration, which it described as 'off limits in terms of a liberal-minded comfort zone'.

Your list is ridiculous.

From your link:

The TV chief also admitted there had been a 'struggle' to achieve impartiality and that staff were ' mystified' by the early years of Margaret Thatcher's government.

So were most people not to the extreme right, and that was 20 years ago.

 

[MaggieMae]

I see nothing about having the government do anything for you in that statement.

Good Lord, which do you want to discuss? The Bible or the government? Or how about the Constitution? I'm sure you've got naive opinions about that, too.

I'm not the one claiming that Jesus Christ taught a social movement created nearly 1800 years after His death and resurrection.

You're the one making claims that Jesus belonged to your political philosophy. Yet in reality he taught the exact opposite. He never taught that people should outsource their responsibilities to government. He told people they should embrace their responsibility. He didn't outsource charity. He did charity.

He didn't use force, He persuaded, invited, exhorted people to reconnect with their God and fulfilled their earthly responsibilities.

You think using violence to "provide for the poor" is what Jesus wanted?

That's seriously screwed up.

The words "social" and "movement" have been around for centuries. Just because it's now a "political" movement putting the two words together hardly negates what Jesus taught, in his own words and manner, which was to love all people. WTF? Why do you think a church used it as a theme?

I don't even know where you're coming from by assuming that "Social Justice" today includes coercion and violence. WHAT?! I challenge you to Google the term and find one definition that includes using force.

 

[Flagwavrusa]

Just curious.

I don't think Beck would be a good person to send to Egypt, his views would be considered too extreme over there

1) Democracy, freedom, religous toleration
2) An ardent supporter of America and its values
3) Putting American security first
4) He doesnt want to "understand" Islamofascists, he just wants them gone

Obviously, this would not sit well with the majority of the protesters in the streets of Cairo. If you are looking for an ambassador to go over there that Egyptians would embrace, I think Obama would be a much better choice.

 

[MaggieMae]

Beck only recently "pledged" non-violence. Until Congresswoman Giffords was shot, he was infamous for pulling stunts like pouring gasoline on a planted guest and pretending it was Obama.

I've said it before, Glenn Beck is to me the most dangerous man in the country simply because he has managed to brainwash millions of people, many of whom who were once just old-fashioned, clear-thinking partisans, by planting vicious thoughts in their heads, all in the guise of patriotism and Christianity.

Beck's been talking about non-violence for nearly 2 years. Emphasizing it the most for several months prior to the 8-28 event.

As for pouring gasoline on somone, please provide evidence. See below.

And yes, Glenn is a horrible person for encouraging people to study history and faith and discover who they really are. He is such a horrible person for encouraging individuals to be honest, to have faith, to be charitable. He is ruining our country by encouraging people to get out of debt, to simplify their lives, to get involved in their community.

These are such horrible things because you lose when these principles are embraced.

Do you ever actually LISTEN to him? Here's a little sampling:

Glenn Beck: Media Matters ' 2009 Misinformer of the Year | Media Matters for America
MM tracks Glenn Beck's atrocious daily attacks by linking to direct quotes and videos.

Beck's Law: If Obama did it, always say that Hitler did it, too

On June 30, Wal-Mart joined the Center for American Progress and SEIU in announcing support for health care reform efforts. The next day on his Fox News show, Beck made one of the countless Nazi and Hitler comparisons he made this year:

BECK: This is what happened in the 1940s. Look, this is what happened in Europe in the 1930s. It's what happened in Italy. It's what happened in the national socialist country of Germany in the 1930s under Hitler. These companies get into bed and think, "Well, we're going to be fine. We'll just take a little bit of this."

Then, they're trapped. These are bullies that are pushing these companies. And these companies are naive, at best, that they think they can get into bed with the devil, and then be able to control it.
And there's your "history" lesson du jour you spoke of.

In his uninterrupted efforts to attack and smear progressives, Beck would repeatedly prove the accuracy of Godwin's Law. Beck called Obama's proposal to expand the foreign service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps "what Hitler did with the SS" and compared the closing of car dealerships to what happened under the Nazis, warning, "Gang, at some point, they're going to come for you." Incidentally, this would not be Beck's only reference to Martin Niemoller's lectures. Responding to Anita Dunn's criticism of Fox News' overt partisanship, Beck compared the channel to Jews during the Holocaust, with other media outlets representing the silent bystanders.

Beck's embrace of violent, anti-government rhetoric

Beck's adoration of theatrics reached a fevered pitch in April. After claiming, "I think it would be just faster if they just shot me in the head," Beck created a classic cable news moment when, in criticizing the president's policies, he pretended to pour gasoline on an average American, stating, "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? For the love of Pete, what are you doing?"

Beck would go on to use violent imagery throughout the year, distorting the face and voice of a "concerned parent" who attacked Dunn for her Mao reference as if he were a mafia informant, purporting to boil a frog to illustrate that "we've been tossed quickly into boiling water," and invoking civil rights marchers having fire hoses turned on them to spur opposition to health care reform.

Rhetorically as well, Beck spent 2009 at the forefront of the emerging right-wing culture of paranoia, his persecution complex manifesting itself in claims that "they are going to silence voices like mine" and suggestions that "you" would "have to shoot me in the forehead before I will let you into my house to tell me how to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I acquiesce and be silent." This especially unhinged rallying cry continued:

BECK: [T]hey cannot move on these things, because they are building a machine that will crush the entrepreneurial sprit and the freedom that our founding fathers designed. This machine, whatever it is they are building, will crush it. Do not let them build another piece. So while I turn away, I want to make sure that I have at least 10 million eyes watching -- watching every single move they're making.

That his audience so easily buys into his flamboyant bullshit is shocking. The man is possibly the Anti-Christ.

 

[MaggieMae]

Actually quite the opposite. We empower them. We don't treat them like morons like you do.

It's a mess up society when we live in when people honestly think telling people that because they have a certain skin color they can't make it without assistance from superior people is good and encouraging people of all skin colors to develop their skills and better their life is somehow bad.

that is a pretty pithy conclusion/post.

It kind of assumes that people of a certain skin color are inferior.

That's the problem with liberalism. It does assume that people of a certain skin color are inferior. That is my entire point.

The entire argument of the left is that minorities need government to help them because they are too stupid, incompetant, or unqualified to do anything for themselves.

The argument from the right is that all men are created equal and all men can become empowered to govern themselves regardless of the color of their skin.
The difference between the left and the right is the left thinks you can't. we think you can.

Unfuckingbelievable... So please explain to the group just HOW the right has succeeded in "empowering" people of lesser social standing. You believe charter schools are the answer, so why don't the capitalists build more at their own expense? You want to cut school lunches, wipe out Head Start, even balked at making sure all children (at least) have access to medical facilities. What does the private sector do to move things along so that those government programs aren't necessary? Do they ever actually try to compete in order to prove they can do it better?

 

[MaggieMae]

Sigh. You are losing it your desperation now.

Stating facts about reality is desperation now?

Obviously you didnt know how else to respond to what I said. What am I wrong about? Where did Jesus Christ every advocating outsourcing our responsibilities to government? When did encourage government to do anything? When did he suggest we use violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others?

Point to a single scripture anywhere where he even hinted at any of that.

I am glad I do not see reality as you do.

Thank God I don't either. I don't even have a clue what she's talking about as far as using violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others. Huh? She provides no examples, of course, just a twisted generality based on nothing but perhaps the fear instilled by maniacal statements from people like Glenn Beck who CLAIM that "those people will eventually come and take it from you."

 

[MaggieMae]

Just curious.

I don't think Beck would be a good person to send to Egypt, his views would be considered too extreme over there

1) Democracy, freedom, religous toleration
2) An ardent supporter of America and its values
3) Putting American security first
4) He doesnt want to "understand" Islamofascists, he just wants them gone

Obviously, this would not sit well with the majority of the protesters in the streets of Cairo. If you are looking for an ambassador to go over there that Egyptians would embrace, I think Obama would be a much better choice.

That's how he ropes you in. Then, if you listen carefully, he
1) Does NOT want religious freedom.
2) Supports HIS values of what HE deems the face of America should look like.
3) Encourages revolutionary tactics masquerading as "securing" American values.
4) Is hardly a "new" idea conceived by the Great Glenn Beck.

 

[DiveCon]

Just curious.

I don't think Beck would be a good person to send to Egypt, his views would be considered too extreme over there

1) Democracy, freedom, religous toleration
2) An ardent supporter of America and its values
3) Putting American security first
4) He doesnt want to "understand" Islamofascists, he just wants them gone

Obviously, this would not sit well with the majority of the protesters in the streets of Cairo. If you are looking for an ambassador to go over there that Egyptians would embrace, I think Obama would be a much better choice.

That's how he ropes you in. Then, if you listen carefully, he
1) Does NOT want religious freedom.
2) Supports HIS values of what HE deems the face of America should look like.
3) Encourages revolutionary tactics masquerading as "securing" American values.
4) Is hardly a "new" idea conceived by the Great Glenn Beck.

^^^ that right there shows you dont ever actually listen or watch the man
stop trusting those liars at mediamatters

 

[DiveCon]

Beck only recently "pledged" non-violence. Until Congresswoman Giffords was shot, he was infamous for pulling stunts like pouring gasoline on a planted guest and pretending it was Obama.

I've said it before, Glenn Beck is to me the most dangerous man in the country simply because he has managed to brainwash millions of people, many of whom who were once just old-fashioned, clear-thinking partisans, by planting vicious thoughts in their heads, all in the guise of patriotism and Christianity.

Beck's been talking about non-violence for nearly 2 years. Emphasizing it the most for several months prior to the 8-28 event.

As for pouring gasoline on somone, please provide evidence. See below.

And yes, Glenn is a horrible person for encouraging people to study history and faith and discover who they really are. He is such a horrible person for encouraging individuals to be honest, to have faith, to be charitable. He is ruining our country by encouraging people to get out of debt, to simplify their lives, to get involved in their community.

These are such horrible things because you lose when these principles are embraced.

Do you ever actually LISTEN to him? Here's a little sampling:

Glenn Beck: Media Matters ' 2009 Misinformer of the Year | Media Matters for America
MM tracks Glenn Beck's atrocious daily attacks by linking to direct quotes and videos.

Beck's Law: If Obama did it, always say that Hitler did it, too

On June 30, Wal-Mart joined the Center for American Progress and SEIU in announcing support for health care reform efforts. The next day on his Fox News show, Beck made one of the countless Nazi and Hitler comparisons he made this year:

BECK: This is what happened in the 1940s. Look, this is what happened in Europe in the 1930s. It's what happened in Italy. It's what happened in the national socialist country of Germany in the 1930s under Hitler. These companies get into bed and think, "Well, we're going to be fine. We'll just take a little bit of this."

Then, they're trapped. These are bullies that are pushing these companies. And these companies are naive, at best, that they think they can get into bed with the devil, and then be able to control it.
And there's your "history" lesson du jour you spoke of.

In his uninterrupted efforts to attack and smear progressives, Beck would repeatedly prove the accuracy of Godwin's Law. Beck called Obama's proposal to expand the foreign service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps "what Hitler did with the SS" and compared the closing of car dealerships to what happened under the Nazis, warning, "Gang, at some point, they're going to come for you." Incidentally, this would not be Beck's only reference to Martin Niemoller's lectures. Responding to Anita Dunn's criticism of Fox News' overt partisanship, Beck compared the channel to Jews during the Holocaust, with other media outlets representing the silent bystanders.

Beck's embrace of violent, anti-government rhetoric

Beck's adoration of theatrics reached a fevered pitch in April. After claiming, "I think it would be just faster if they just shot me in the head," Beck created a classic cable news moment when, in criticizing the president's policies, he pretended to pour gasoline on an average American, stating, "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? For the love of Pete, what are you doing?"

Beck would go on to use violent imagery throughout the year, distorting the face and voice of a "concerned parent" who attacked Dunn for her Mao reference as if he were a mafia informant, purporting to boil a frog to illustrate that "we've been tossed quickly into boiling water," and invoking civil rights marchers having fire hoses turned on them to spur opposition to health care reform.

Rhetorically as well, Beck spent 2009 at the forefront of the emerging right-wing culture of paranoia, his persecution complex manifesting itself in claims that "they are going to silence voices like mine" and suggestions that "you" would "have to shoot me in the forehead before I will let you into my house to tell me how to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I acquiesce and be silent." This especially unhinged rallying cry continued:

BECK: [T]hey cannot move on these things, because they are building a machine that will crush the entrepreneurial sprit and the freedom that our founding fathers designed. This machine, whatever it is they are building, will crush it. Do not let them build another piece. So while I turn away, I want to make sure that I have at least 10 million eyes watching -- watching every single move they're making.

That his audience so easily buys into his flamboyant bullshit is shocking. The man is possibly the Anti-Christ.

^^^ thats your problem
mediamatters LIES

 

[Avatar4321]

Shocking, Glenn is one of the most recorded people in the discussion, and you cant provide a single video clip.

And even more shocking you cant deal with a single piece of evidence he has provided. You don't even acknowledge it exists. It's as if you refuse to even come to the talbe of the discussion.

Oh and anything that involves the use of government force requires violence.

 

[uscitizen]

Stating facts about reality is desperation now?

Obviously you didnt know how else to respond to what I said. What am I wrong about? Where did Jesus Christ every advocating outsourcing our responsibilities to government? When did encourage government to do anything? When did he suggest we use violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others?

Point to a single scripture anywhere where he even hinted at any of that.

I am glad I do not see reality as you do.

Thank God I don't either. I don't even have a clue what she's talking about as far as using violence or coercion to take money from some people to give it to others. Huh? She provides no examples, of course, just a twisted generality based on nothing but perhaps the fear instilled by maniacal statements from people like Glenn Beck who CLAIM that "those people will eventually come and take it from you."

Avatar4321 is a she???