Is General Motors even trying?

[bank_on_carrie]

Ford is kicking its arse to kingdom come. And GM is busy selling off European brands and stopping Chevrolet in India and South Africa.

What's with it? Are they following Michael Bay?

I mean, check this comparison out:

 

[TNHarley]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

 

[DarkFury]

Buick does well in China. It's a status symbol there.

 

[TNHarley]

Buick does well in China. It's a status symbol there.

Old person status?

 

[MisterBeale]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

 

[mudwhistle]

Ford is kicking its arse to kingdom come. And GM is busy selling off European brands and stopping Chevrolet in India and South Africa.

What's with it? Are they following Michael Bay?

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I mean, check this comparison out:

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Good thing Obama bailed out GMC (Gay Man's Chevy) and not Ford.

 

[TNHarley]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

 

[DarkFury]

Buick does well in China. It's a status symbol there.

Old person status?

China does not sell quality but insists on it when buying.

 

[DarkFury]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

 

[TNHarley]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

Why bail out a failing company?
If they cant keep up with demand, whats the point?
Is the government going to bail me out if i lost everything to some stupid decisions? Of course not.

 

[MisterBeale]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

True, but it probably saved more jobs than on the financial bailout, and thus, more tax revenue has subsequently been generated.

What I'm getting at is, which bailout was the better idea?

I'm not sure I supported either, the government should probably have never approved all the mergers that created GM, folks just don't understand that the government hates cars in the first place. In Michigan, we have a saying. . . . You can take my car when you pry the wheel from my cold dead hands. So fuck those who have a problem with the car companies, if the government would get out of regulating the car companies in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

 

[DarkFury]

Studebaker
Oldsmobile
Pontiac
DeSoto
Rambler

The list of car makers that have failed is around 100 total. Nobody said a word about them! The bailout was nothing but a ploy to pay off the union's.

 

[TNHarley]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

True, but it probably saved more jobs than on the financial bailout, and thus, more tax revenue has subsequently been generated.

What I'm getting at is, which bailout was the better idea?

I'm not sure I supported either, the government should probably have never approved all the mergers that created GM, folks just don't understand that the government hates cars in the first place. In Michigan, we have a saying. . . . You can take my car when you pry the wheel from my cold dead hands. So fuck those who have a problem with the car companies, if the government would get out of regulating the car companies in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

Actually, after we bailed GM out and lost 11 billion, they invested hundreds of millions of dollars overseas.
Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

 

[bank_on_carrie]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

Why bail out a failing company?
If they cant keep up with demand, whats the point?
Is the government going to bail me out if i lost everything to some stupid decisions? Of course not.

Because the US government has no qualms in helping the already loaded. Ask for food stamps and you'll need verification.

Also check this news out: GM expects the India and South Africa restructuring to generate $0.1 Billion. Such a sad payout to a move like this.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Ford is kicking its arse to kingdom come. And GM is busy selling off European brands and stopping Chevrolet in India and South Africa.

What's with it? Are they following Michael Bay?

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I mean, check this comparison out:

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I'd say no, QC is in the gutter, Ford and Toyota are ruling at this point in time.

Mopar, eesh, stay away!

 

[DarkFury]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

True, but it probably saved more jobs than on the financial bailout, and thus, more tax revenue has subsequently been generated.

What I'm getting at is, which bailout was the better idea?

I'm not sure I supported either, the government should probably have never approved all the mergers that created GM, folks just don't understand that the government hates cars in the first place. In Michigan, we have a saying. . . . You can take my car when you pry the wheel from my cold dead hands. So fuck those who have a problem with the car companies, if the government would get out of regulating the car companies in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

Actually, after we bailed GM out and lost 11 billion, they invested hundreds of millions of dollars overseas.
Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

WE did not bail them out. Shit stain acted like a broker and bought them then fired their president and sold our shares at a loss. A whole lot of laws broken there!

 

[MisterBeale]

Bout time. Tax Payer Motors has been failing in Europe for like 20 years.

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

True, but it probably saved more jobs than on the financial bailout, and thus, more tax revenue has subsequently been generated.

What I'm getting at is, which bailout was the better idea?

I'm not sure I supported either, the government should probably have never approved all the mergers that created GM, folks just don't understand that the government hates cars in the first place. In Michigan, we have a saying. . . . You can take my car when you pry the wheel from my cold dead hands. So fuck those who have a problem with the car companies, if the government would get out of regulating the car companies in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

Actually, after we bailed GM out and lost 11 billion, they invested hundreds of millions of dollars overseas.
Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

I think you guys are still missing my point.

I'm not necessarily defending that bail out. My point is, compared to the financial bail out, it was peanuts. However, the number of jobs it saved, was incomparable.

The puppet masters got their bail out, and they control everything you read and how you perceive the world. However, it was the employees of GM, the blue collar workers that eventually put Trump in office. If there hadn't been a bailout, shit would have been seriously tilted toward the socialists. You did know that as it was, Sanders was the most popular candidate in the Midwest, right?


Most folks that work on cars KNOW what the true intent of the cash for clunkers crap was all about. The rest of the nation? They actually think that was a great deal. Suckers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You do know GM paid the government back a while ago, right?

And when we sold their shares, we ended up losing 11 billion.
U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout

Tax payers got screwed on that deal.

True, but it probably saved more jobs than on the financial bailout, and thus, more tax revenue has subsequently been generated.

What I'm getting at is, which bailout was the better idea?

I'm not sure I supported either, the government should probably have never approved all the mergers that created GM, folks just don't understand that the government hates cars in the first place. In Michigan, we have a saying. . . . You can take my car when you pry the wheel from my cold dead hands. So fuck those who have a problem with the car companies, if the government would get out of regulating the car companies in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems.

Actually, after we bailed GM out and lost 11 billion, they invested hundreds of millions of dollars overseas.
Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

I think you guys are still missing my point.

I'm not necessarily defending that bail out. My point is, compared to the financial bail out, it was peanuts. However, the number of jobs it saved, was incomparable.

The puppet masters got their bail out, and they control everything you read and how you perceive the world. However, it was the employees of GM, the blue collar workers that eventually put Trump in office. If there hadn't been a bailout, shit would have been seriously tilted toward the socialists. You did know that as it was, Sanders was the most popular candidate in the Midwest, right?


Most folks that work on cars KNOW what the true intent of the cash for clunkers crap was all about. The rest of the nation? They actually think that was a great deal. Suckers.

My point is, compared to the financial bail out, it was peanuts.

The financial bailout made the Treasury a huge profit.

 

[BlackFlag]

Rising U.S. truck, crossover sales drive GM to record profit

 

[BlackFlag]

Ford is kicking its arse to kingdom come. And GM is busy selling off European brands and stopping Chevrolet in India and South Africa.

What's with it? Are they following Michael Bay?

View attachment 141841

I mean, check this comparison out:

View attachment 141843

Good thing Obama bailed out GMC (Gay Man's Chevy) and not Ford.

Trump Should Be Asking: Will Ford Pay Off Its Government Loan Before Moving Small Car Production To Mexico?