Is gay marriage the most important issue in the USA?

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    Nope. He's just hallucinating his own Loving decision. And then insisting that if he can imagine it, it must be reality.

    Keyes is, without a doubt, the most hopelessly relativistic poster on this board.
     
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    I'd say there's a 50-50 chance of a 6-3 ruling on Obergefell. With Roberts siding with the Liberal wing and Kennedy in defense of gay marriage. I'd say there's even a chance at a 7 to 2 ruling. Which is at least the margin in every denial of cert by the court when preserving lower court rulings that overturned same sex marriage bans.
     
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    You're a moron. Each person in this country is a single vote, a minority. That single vote is not the majority. Each person in this country has the same rights. Rights were not made by ANYONE OR ANY LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY YOU DUMB ASS. You can only take away rights THROUGH ACTS OF FORCE. You can't make rights ya moron.

    And no the 14th was not put in force by majority vote. It was put in force via cannon fire and threat of death.
     
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    Keys right this moment is waving his walker and threatening the staff with his sippy cup.
     
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    Turns out.....you were deluded.
     
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    I was hoping Roberts would be in the majority, but I am fine with a 5:4 win.
     
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    The shift to the Loving Decision this time around certainly was. As you misquoted it. Giving us a bullshit basis, an imaginary foundation, and citing passages that didn't exist.

    And those with vastly more command of the topic corrected you.

    Oh, and for the record: the Obergefell decision predictably cited the Loving decision as part of its ruling. In fact, the legal precedent of the 1st of 4 principles upon which gay marriage is recognized.

    Exactly as I said they would.
     
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    I thought it was possible. The man does prioritize legacy. And he just wrote his. That dissent will be what he's remembered for.
     
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    Actually we can make accurate comparisons.

    When Loving v. Virginia was decided, the majority of Americans opposed mixed race marriage bans- not just the majority of Virginians- the majority of Americans. It took over 20 years before the majority of Americans approved of mixed race marriages.

    Today's decision though- the majority of Americans have switched from opposing gay marriage to supporting it by the time this decision was reached.

    So in a way you are right- there is no comparison- today's court decision actually reflects the opinion of the majority of Americans, whereas Loving v. Virginia went against it.
     
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    Loving was the court over-riding a State's marriage laws, in defiance of the majority opinion, to support the individuals right to marriage.

    And guess what- today's court decided the same thing- except the majority of Americans now support gay marriage.
     

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