Is Congress really necessary?

[counterpoint]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

At the rate Obama is going he could make the argument Congress is not needed. He has violated the Constitution several times now. And the left loves it.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop."

You are confused.

The Founders did not found this nation as a democracy.

It became one later but only through a lot of sacrifice (the most notable of which was over half a million men in the 1860's).

Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

Sorry, I dunno about you, but during the day, I work.

 

[editec]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

I'm not entirely on board with a pure democracy in a nation this large, but I defintely do think we can do much to put the DEMO back into the loop.

Now thanks to advances in technology we could have more universal voting on some issues.

Going to war, might be one to consider, for example.

 

[California Girl]

Pure democracy equates to mob rule.

No thanks. I like a Republic. I have no issue with the concept of 'Congress', I have major issues with the vast majority of critters that make it up.

 

[freedombecki]

At the rate Obama is going he could make the argument Congress is not needed. He has violated the Constitution several times now. And the left loves it.

I've heard he has violated the Constitution, too.

But it seems he cannot be disciplined because of racial rioting.

Great for federalists, not so great for states' rights that were promised when earlier Congresses invited smaller state into the Union to give them a voice in government they'd been denied under King George of England in Colonial times.

It seems the punching bag that keeps coming back is the issue of taxation with no representation, and it's true contemporaneously with swamping of individuals' rights in favor of big government.

 

[Ringel05]

Is Congress really necessary?

It won't be when I'm elected King for life.........
Remember, a vote for me is a vote for me!!

 

[Katzndogz]

It's reprehensible that there is someone who thinks this country is a democracy. It has to be the result of a deplorable educational system.

 

[konradv]

It's reprehensible that there is someone who thinks this country is a democracy. It has to be the result of a deplorable educational system.

It's not the educational system, rather your bias, that's the problem here. You're trying to suggest that there's only one flavor of democracy, when anyone who IS educated, knows that isn't true. You got "pure", "representitive", "parliamentary", just to name a few.

 

[Ernie S.]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

We can't even get people to make the arduous journey to the DMV for an acceptable voter ID, how are we going to get them to become informed enough to make decisions that will have profound effects on the country?
Then there's that pesky eligibility/identity issue again....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

 

[konradv]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

But he's wearing a toga, Frank! Remember, Jesus and Obama were "community organizers", while Pilate and Romney were governors, i.e. the toga-wearing class.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's reprehensible that there is someone who thinks this country is a democracy. It has to be the result of a deplorable educational system.

It's not the educational system, rather your bias, that's the problem here. You're trying to suggest that there's only one flavor of democracy, when anyone who IS educated, knows that isn't true. You got "pure", "representitive", "parliamentary", just to name a few.

Out of all those flavors which one do we have in THIS country?

I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the democracy for which it stands.

The question is really do we need a representative government at all. Suggesting that with the internet, we don't even need representatives.

All we need is a King, with various appointed Earls, Dukes and Lords, oh excuse me, CZARS. Who are unelected and accountable to no one but the King.

 

[konradv]

It's reprehensible that there is someone who thinks this country is a democracy. It has to be the result of a deplorable educational system.

It's not the educational system, rather your bias, that's the problem here. You're trying to suggest that there's only one flavor of democracy, when anyone who IS educated, knows that isn't true. You got "pure", "representitive", "parliamentary", just to name a few.

Out of all those flavors which one do we have in THIS country?

I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the democracy for which it stands.

The question is really do we need a representative government at all. Suggesting that with the internet, we don't even need representatives.

All we need is a King, with various appointed Earls, Dukes and Lords, oh excuse me, CZARS. Who are unelected and accountable to no one but the King.

What ARE you babbling about? Are you trying to dodge the point of my post? You LIED about a definition in order to further your political agenda. I don't care about your fantasty scenarios. All they prove is how out-of-touch you are. If you don't realize we ARE a democracy, then you're so far out on a limb, making discussing this with you, pointless.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's not the educational system, rather your bias, that's the problem here. You're trying to suggest that there's only one flavor of democracy, when anyone who IS educated, knows that isn't true. You got "pure", "representitive", "parliamentary", just to name a few.

Out of all those flavors which one do we have in THIS country?

I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the democracy for which it stands.

The question is really do we need a representative government at all. Suggesting that with the internet, we don't even need representatives.

All we need is a King, with various appointed Earls, Dukes and Lords, oh excuse me, CZARS. Who are unelected and accountable to no one but the King.

What ARE you babbling about? Are you trying to dodge the point of my post? You LIED about a definition in order to further your political agenda. I don't care about your fantasty scenarios. All they prove is how out-of-touch you are. If you don't realize we ARE a democracy, then you're so far out on a limb, making discussing this with you, pointless.

Of course I didn't lie. YOu are a democrat by definition you lied.

I said this country was not a democracy. Then you support your ignorance by saying there are LOTS of different kinds of democracies. Not addressing the point which is none of those democracies exist in THIS country which is a republic not a democracy.

Dolt. Just DOLT.

 

[Toro]

We should have a king instead.

 

[whitehall]

Another tin foil hat opinion by someone who is either too ignorant to understand the political process or a socialist revolutionary who thinks the Constitution is just a quaint document.

 

[Ringel05]

We should have a king instead.

A vote for King Ringel is a vote for for King Ringel!!

 

[lizzie]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

Sounds like you're advocating a pure democracy, and I can't think of a worse situation for the country than to have a president without any balancing powers. Although I don't much like congress, I think even less of the current president.

 

[Intense]

I don't know if this topic has come up on this forum before, but in case it has not, I believe it it worth stating. At the start of this country, the founding fathers needed some sort of democracy to keep the people of the United States "in the loop." Congress was the best option at the time. Up until very recently, it was the best option. But as we enter the information age, this may no longer be true. I propose that we start using the internet as a alternative to congress. Yes, the initial cost of setting up servers that large would be quite a bit, but in the long run, the amount we pay our senators and representatives would very likely be much much more. I also understand that some people do not have access to the internet. This dilemma could be remedied fairly easily by having permanent kiosks in town halls and other similar buildings that that allow these very people to vote if they so choose. Hopefully people will read this post and please, by all means amend this proposition however much you feel is necessary, and if you agree with the idea, please share it! I really would like nothing more than for this thread to be discussed, argued, and fixed by the very people who should be making the decisions in this country, the citizens of the United States of America.

I can see how any Dictator, would have a problem with a Congress. We are a Federal Republic.