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That's called "weather".
More than that, it seems like it may be a part of an accelerating trend of extreme weather events that correlate with the expectations of an anthropogenic GHG forced climate change.
So, what does AGW do? Does it make the planet warmer or colder? Does it make it wetter or dryer?
More than that, it seems like it may be a part of an accelerating trend of extreme weather events that correlate with the expectations of an anthropogenic GHG forced climate change.
So, what does AGW do? Does it make the planet warmer or colder? Does it make it wetter or dryer?
On a globally averaged basis there is net warming. As the additional energy equilibrates through out the environment, it can generate many different responses depending upon how it changes local patterns and systems.
So, what does AGW do? Does it make the planet warmer or colder? Does it make it wetter or dryer?
On a globally averaged basis there is net warming. As the additional energy equilibrates through out the environment, it can generate many different responses depending upon how it changes local patterns and systems.
So present a testable experiment to confirm what you claim is occuring.
Awww, your projection is cute. Or it would be, if it weren't so entirely predictable.That's easy. Any of your posts in the Environmental forum.apparently, ...you are, but I'm willing to look at any compelling evidence you care to present to the contrary.
Any more questions?
Nope, you have done quite well at establishing your delusional state, nothing left for me to accent.
...and coughed up for the extended warranty.If the ecosystem were so fragile that it'd be upset by a 1-degree variation in temperatures, this would be a lifeless ball of rock.Another PRICELESS AGW thread purporting to show the effects of LITERALLY a one degree AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature increase..
You think ONE DEGREE in your lifetime means anything to a hurricane or a cumulo-nimbus?? I can understand the alarmists threatening us with events in the far off future... But I have no evidence that the 2000ppm CO2 levels during the dinosaurs led to horrific weather events -- do you?
BTW: How about that 2012 Hurricane Season eh??? I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the "big one".... Aren't you?
I KNOW -- I KNOW !!!According to Ole Rocks, we inherited some kind of intergalactic Lemon that will literally blow up under us -- if it reaches 3 or 5 degrees and the Arctic Methane lights off...
Should have check the PlanetFacts before we signed the lease..
Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.On a globally averaged basis there is net warming. As the additional energy equilibrates through out the environment, it can generate many different responses depending upon how it changes local patterns and systems.
So present a testable experiment to confirm what you claim is occuring.
Ah, if only we had a means of deriving the average temperature of the planet over time,...oh, wait, we do!
Think Like a Scientist | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA
NCDC: Global Warming (too bad it doesn't include the last decade, much warmer than anything else on the graph)
Ah, I know how much you prefer pictures to words:
That the sort of confirmation you looking for?
(I'm not sure what you've got against computer models, the petroleum industry has been heavily dependent upon them for the last 3-4 decades and generally find them pretty useful and reliable - as have physicists, astronomers, chemists, geologists as well as virtually all other natural scien..., ah!!! I see. You think computers are evil demon boxes trying to steal your soul don't you! - make sure you take your meds before you go to bed!)
Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.So present a testable experiment to confirm what you claim is occuring.
Ah, if only we had a means of deriving the average temperature of the planet over time,...oh, wait, we do!
Think Like a Scientist | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA
NCDC: Global Warming (too bad it doesn't include the last decade, much warmer than anything else on the graph)
Ah, I know how much you prefer pictures to words:
That the sort of confirmation you looking for?
(I'm not sure what you've got against computer models, the petroleum industry has been heavily dependent upon them for the last 3-4 decades and generally find them pretty useful and reliable - as have physicists, astronomers, chemists, geologists as well as virtually all other natural scien..., ah!!! I see. You think computers are evil demon boxes trying to steal your soul don't you! - make sure you take your meds before you go to bed!)
Say, have you seen a hockey stick around here?
On a globally averaged basis there is net warming. As the additional energy equilibrates through out the environment, it can generate many different responses depending upon how it changes local patterns and systems.
So present a testable experiment to confirm what you claim is occuring.
Ah, if only we had a means of deriving the average temperature of the planet over time,...oh, wait, we do!
Think Like a Scientist | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA
NCDC: Global Warming (too bad it doesn't include the last decade, much warmer than anything else on the graph)
Ah, I know how much you prefer pictures to words:
That the sort of confirmation you looking for?
(I'm not sure what you've got against computer models, the petroleum industry has been heavily dependent upon them for the last 3-4 decades and generally find them pretty useful and reliable - as have physicists, astronomers, chemists, geologists as well as virtually all other natural scien..., ah!!! I see. You think computers are evil demon boxes trying to steal your soul don't you! - make sure you take your meds before you go to bed!)
Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.Ah, if only we had a means of deriving the average temperature of the planet over time,...oh, wait, we do!
Think Like a Scientist | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA
NCDC: Global Warming (too bad it doesn't include the last decade, much warmer than anything else on the graph)
Ah, I know how much you prefer pictures to words:
That the sort of confirmation you looking for?
(I'm not sure what you've got against computer models, the petroleum industry has been heavily dependent upon them for the last 3-4 decades and generally find them pretty useful and reliable - as have physicists, astronomers, chemists, geologists as well as virtually all other natural scien..., ah!!! I see. You think computers are evil demon boxes trying to steal your soul don't you! - make sure you take your meds before you go to bed!)
Say, have you seen a hockey stick around here?
You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.
Say, have you seen a hockey stick around here?
You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
Reall? What are all those "corrections" that Hansen is doing to the historical temperature record all about? Enquiring minds want to know.
It's not up to me to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming Man is responsible for anything happening.Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.Ah, if only we had a means of deriving the average temperature of the planet over time,...oh, wait, we do!
Think Like a Scientist | A Student's Guide to Global Climate Change | US EPA
NCDC: Global Warming (too bad it doesn't include the last decade, much warmer than anything else on the graph)
Ah, I know how much you prefer pictures to words:
That the sort of confirmation you looking for?
(I'm not sure what you've got against computer models, the petroleum industry has been heavily dependent upon them for the last 3-4 decades and generally find them pretty useful and reliable - as have physicists, astronomers, chemists, geologists as well as virtually all other natural scien..., ah!!! I see. You think computers are evil demon boxes trying to steal your soul don't you! - make sure you take your meds before you go to bed!)
Say, have you seen a hockey stick around here?
You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
Reall? What are all those "corrections" that Hansen is doing to the historical temperature record all about? Enquiring minds want to know.
You do seem rather like a National Enquirer subscriber, that aside, point to any specific and particular "correction" that you find unusual or improper and we can explore it to see if there is anything peculiar about the situation.
I thought it caused droughts?
Newsflash: Droughts are also extreme events.
It's not up to me to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming Man is responsible for anything happening.Computer models are great -- when they're properly written and data isn't massaged to arrive at the predetermined conclusion.
Say, have you seen a hockey stick around here?
You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
And what came before that?It's not up to me to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming Man is responsible for anything happening.You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
No, you are claiming that people have deliberately committed fraud and worse, without presenting any compelling supportive evidence to corroborate your assertions.
It's not up to me to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming Man is responsible for anything happening.You seem to be the only one "massaging" anything and its not a pretty sight, everyone who has thoroughly and correctly examined the temperature data of the last few thousand years has derived a similar plotting graph, but I'd be glad to take a look at any study you know of that presents a dramatically different finding.
No, you are claiming that people have deliberately committed fraud and worse, without presenting any compelling supportive evidence to corroborate your assertions.
The Times | UK News, World News and Opinion
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEAs Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
It's not up to me to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming Man is responsible for anything happening.
No, you are claiming that people have deliberately committed fraud and worse, without presenting any compelling supportive evidence to corroborate your assertions.
The Times | UK News, World News and Opinion
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEAs Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
You can't have the data. I mean -- we'll make it available to qualified researchers that we like. Well -- you can't have it -- the dog ate it... Happens frequently to data bases purported dramatic AGW evidence..
No, you are claiming that people have deliberately committed fraud and worse, without presenting any compelling supportive evidence to corroborate your assertions.
The Times | UK News, World News and Opinion
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEAs Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
You can't have the data. I mean -- we'll make it available to qualified researchers that we like. Well -- you can't have it -- the dog ate it... Happens frequently to data bases purported dramatic AGW evidence..
Yes, it's common for elite researchers to "lose" their raw data built up over 20 some odd years. Happens ALL the time.
IPCC climate sensitivities called into question
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last year I pointed out that the only quantification of climate sensitivity (feedback) that was based on data rather than computer models showed a value of close to one rather than the two, three or five that alarmists like to use. a statistician, Nik Lewis (who's rebuttal of Steig's antarctica was also an interesting foray into peer review) also pointed out to the IPCC the irregular methodologies used to calculate the values which led to a correction being published.
Lewis has now found serious apparent flaws in the supposed data used by Forest in two of the studies used, as well as follow on studies. after being rebuffed for the raw data and methodologies, he went to the publishing Journal, which asked Forest for the data. unfortunately the data is now 'lost'. how typical of climate science. deny, delay, destroy.
Throwing down the gauntlet on reproducibility in Climate Science Forest et al. (2006) | Watts Up With That?
Questioning the Forest et al. (2006) sensitivity study | Climate Etc.
