Is China America's biggest military threat?

[Munin]

Before you answer plz watch this:

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

No. Russia is our greatest military threat although a war with China over Taiwan will lead to a military strike by Russia against us. As China makes more provocative moves / plans towards the invasion of Taiwan such a scenario is inevitable.

 

[waltky]

Jeremiah wrote: No. Russia is our greatest military threat although a war with China over Taiwan will lead to a military strike by Russia against us.

You may be right...

... but don't forget the Russia/Iran/Syria military pact...

Russia-Syrian-Iranian common defense pact
24 July 2006 : Russia, Iran and Syria have entered a defense pact that is in the process of altering the balance of power in the entire Middle East. Russia’s part in the pact has been kept relatively secret for a long time. But the facts reveal a long steady Russian commitment to the Iranian nuclear program and arms supply to Syria.

A Mossad General shared with me in confidence that he had personally traced the hiring and importation to Iran 283 of the defunct Soviet Union’s top nuclear and missile scientists. This meeting took place in February of 1991. I shared this information with no one until nine months later when it was first made public (although strangely not followed up by the mainstream media). All Russian leaders continued and expanded this agreement to this day, especially our supposed friend, Vladimir Putin. Russia has helped the Iranian nuclear program from its inception. Hundreds of Russian scientists with their families live around the some twenty scattered nuclear related facilities. Russian ‘Spetznaz soldiers’ (special forces) guard all the key nuclear facilities. Iran has had some help on missile development from the North Koreans. But even their missiles are based upon Russian designs. The unmistakable culprit in China, North Korea and Iran’s nuclear development has been the Soviet Union and continued by Russia.

The Soviet Union’s motivation for helping China and North Korea was primarily ideological. Russia’s primary reason is hard cash, although now, it is taking on a strategic importance as well. So here are the disturbing hard facts about what is taking place in what can only be viewed as a dangerous anti-western strategy in the form of a Russian-Syrian-Iranian Axis. The first part of this strategy was, as I said above, Russia enabling Iran to produce deliverable nuclear warheads. The second part was the forming of the recent mutual defense pact between Iran and Syria. The foreign ministers of Iran and Syria, Mostafa Najjar and Hassan Turkmani, signed the pact in Tehran on June 15th, 2006. Debka’s intelligence sources unveiled a disturbing clause in the agreement that was reported to President Bush by US Intelligence. This report disclosed:

“The clause speaks of more than one battery of upgraded SHEHAB-3 surface-to-surface missiles to be deployed on the 13,000-foot Jabal Ash Shanin ridges towering over central Syria. “The latest Syrian-Iranian exchanges are reported by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources as auguring the early dispatch from Tehran of a deputation of officers to take up position at al Qadnus, east of the Syrian port of Tartus, and along the road linking the port to Jabal Ash Shanin. "This team will act as the vanguard of the Iranian missile force to operate the missiles station, will check out the ground and fix its precise location. “Senior intelligence officials warned the US President that this deployment would not just throw the entire Middle East balance of strength out of kilter, but directly menace American bases as far as West and East Europe and the Central Asian republics, including those located on the shores of the oil-rich Caspian Sea.”

This puts virtually all of Europe within range of the soon-coming nuclear tipped Iranian missiles — and at the whim of Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Remember him? He is the one who believes Allah has chosen him to fulfill an “end time” Muslim prophecy by starting a world apocalypse in which the long-awaited ‘Mahdi’ (Muslim Messiah) will appear and subject all survivors to Allah. As if this isn’t bad enough news, there is something even more alarming developing within this new axis of evil. Russia is now making moves to protect Syria and its Shehab-3 missile base. This is what DEBKA-News-Weekly reported:

“Our sources have observed the Russians dredging the port of TARTUS, Syria’s second most important Mediterranean port, with a view to expanding their logistical supply point there to a fully-equipped naval base, possibly to serve the Black Sea Fleet warships when they are redeployed from the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol. It is designed to be built up into the permanent base for the fleet led by the RFS Moskva (TG Flag) missile cruiser and the RFS Azov landing ship within the next three years. “February 27, 2006, DEBKA file’s exclusive sources found the MOSKVA and AZOV heading into the Mediterranean on Feb. 5, escorted by a Russian military tug, to take part in the a NATO marine exercise Operation Active Endeavor, which was to practice counter-measures against nuclear and other WMD smugglers. NATO chiefs and American generals in particular, attached great importance to Russia’s participation in the exercise. NATO secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer had intended to make the gesture of being the North Atlantic Organization chief to visit a Russian flagship.

“The visit was cancelled when it was discovered that the three Russian fleet vessels would be paying an official call at the Syrian port of Latakia. “The arrival of the Russian task force in TARTUS in March marked the opening of the Russian base. Our military experts note that the Missile Cruiser MOSKVA is armed with the weapons, radar and electronic gear of an [aircraft] carrier hunter. “The American intelligence briefing for the US President further disclosed that sophisticated Russian air defense systems are to be installed for the dual purpose of protecting the TARTUS NAVAL BASE and the SHEHAB-3 missile emplacements. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources identify the system as the S-300PMU-2. It will be operated by Russian military crews and not put in Syrian hands. “This air defense system is comparable to the American Patriot, but is more effective. “The version to be deployed in Syria is geared to intercept ballistic missiles. It has the great advantage of being ready to fire five minutes after receiving orders …”

This explains why Iran has blatantly defied the world and continued developing nuclear warheads, which are closer to becoming operational than we dare believe. Second, it explains the reason why the Iranian and Syrian defense ministers signed a mutual defense pact last June 15th. Third, it gives the reason for Hezbollah launching a war with Israel when they did. It was to divert the G-8 leaders from seriously debating action about the Iranian nuclear threat. And Vladimir Putin played a masterful game of concealing what his forces are doing. Fourth, it explains why Syria and Iran are unafraid to openly support Hezbollah in their war with Israel and support terrorist that target US troops in Iraq. Russia is in the background guaranteeing their protection. Debka reports that they found data indicating that Russia helped persuade Syrian President Bashir Assad to accept the placement of Iranian missiles on their soil by hinting that “it is part of their own deepening strategic plans for Syria.

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[longknife]

The biggest threat to America is the progressive politicians here at home who want to destroy our way of life.

Obama is a perfect example. Every thing he does is aimed at disrupting our Republic.

The second biggest threat are the professional politicians who think nothing but of themselves and their futures. Those indebted to lobbyists and special interest groups.

Until we replace both of these, we will continue to be heading for deep doo-doo.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Pentagon is a threat...President Eisenhower tried to warn us.................

 

[rightwinger]

Before you answer plz watch this:

Are you fucking crazy?

You want me to watch a 49 minute video before I can answer your stupid question?

No, China is not our biggest military threat. On the basis of thousands of nuclear warheads and the capability to deliver them, Russia is our biggest threat

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Before you answer plz watch this:

Are you fucking crazy?

You want me to watch a 49 minute video before I can answer your stupid question?

No, China is not our biggest military threat. On the basis of thousands of nuclear warheads and the capability to deliver them, Russia is our biggest threat

I'm glad to see you finally waking up, R.W.. That is encouraging news.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jeremiah wrote: No. Russia is our greatest military threat although a war with China over Taiwan will lead to a military strike by Russia against us.

You may be right...

... but don't forget the Russia/Iran/Syria military pact...

Russia-Syrian-Iranian common defense pact
24 July 2006 : Russia, Iran and Syria have entered a defense pact that is in the process of altering the balance of power in the entire Middle East. Russia’s part in the pact has been kept relatively secret for a long time. But the facts reveal a long steady Russian commitment to the Iranian nuclear program and arms supply to Syria.

A Mossad General shared with me in confidence that he had personally traced the hiring and importation to Iran 283 of the defunct Soviet Union’s top nuclear and missile scientists. This meeting took place in February of 1991. I shared this information with no one until nine months later when it was first made public (although strangely not followed up by the mainstream media). All Russian leaders continued and expanded this agreement to this day, especially our supposed friend, Vladimir Putin. Russia has helped the Iranian nuclear program from its inception. Hundreds of Russian scientists with their families live around the some twenty scattered nuclear related facilities. Russian ‘Spetznaz soldiers’ (special forces) guard all the key nuclear facilities. Iran has had some help on missile development from the North Koreans. But even their missiles are based upon Russian designs. The unmistakable culprit in China, North Korea and Iran’s nuclear development has been the Soviet Union and continued by Russia.

The Soviet Union’s motivation for helping China and North Korea was primarily ideological. Russia’s primary reason is hard cash, although now, it is taking on a strategic importance as well. So here are the disturbing hard facts about what is taking place in what can only be viewed as a dangerous anti-western strategy in the form of a Russian-Syrian-Iranian Axis. The first part of this strategy was, as I said above, Russia enabling Iran to produce deliverable nuclear warheads. The second part was the forming of the recent mutual defense pact between Iran and Syria. The foreign ministers of Iran and Syria, Mostafa Najjar and Hassan Turkmani, signed the pact in Tehran on June 15th, 2006. Debka’s intelligence sources unveiled a disturbing clause in the agreement that was reported to President Bush by US Intelligence. This report disclosed:

“The clause speaks of more than one battery of upgraded SHEHAB-3 surface-to-surface missiles to be deployed on the 13,000-foot Jabal Ash Shanin ridges towering over central Syria. “The latest Syrian-Iranian exchanges are reported by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources as auguring the early dispatch from Tehran of a deputation of officers to take up position at al Qadnus, east of the Syrian port of Tartus, and along the road linking the port to Jabal Ash Shanin. "This team will act as the vanguard of the Iranian missile force to operate the missiles station, will check out the ground and fix its precise location. “Senior intelligence officials warned the US President that this deployment would not just throw the entire Middle East balance of strength out of kilter, but directly menace American bases as far as West and East Europe and the Central Asian republics, including those located on the shores of the oil-rich Caspian Sea.”

This puts virtually all of Europe within range of the soon-coming nuclear tipped Iranian missiles — and at the whim of Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Remember him? He is the one who believes Allah has chosen him to fulfill an “end time” Muslim prophecy by starting a world apocalypse in which the long-awaited ‘Mahdi’ (Muslim Messiah) will appear and subject all survivors to Allah. As if this isn’t bad enough news, there is something even more alarming developing within this new axis of evil. Russia is now making moves to protect Syria and its Shehab-3 missile base. This is what DEBKA-News-Weekly reported:

“Our sources have observed the Russians dredging the port of TARTUS, Syria’s second most important Mediterranean port, with a view to expanding their logistical supply point there to a fully-equipped naval base, possibly to serve the Black Sea Fleet warships when they are redeployed from the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol. It is designed to be built up into the permanent base for the fleet led by the RFS Moskva (TG Flag) missile cruiser and the RFS Azov landing ship within the next three years. “February 27, 2006, DEBKA file’s exclusive sources found the MOSKVA and AZOV heading into the Mediterranean on Feb. 5, escorted by a Russian military tug, to take part in the a NATO marine exercise Operation Active Endeavor, which was to practice counter-measures against nuclear and other WMD smugglers. NATO chiefs and American generals in particular, attached great importance to Russia’s participation in the exercise. NATO secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer had intended to make the gesture of being the North Atlantic Organization chief to visit a Russian flagship.

“The visit was cancelled when it was discovered that the three Russian fleet vessels would be paying an official call at the Syrian port of Latakia. “The arrival of the Russian task force in TARTUS in March marked the opening of the Russian base. Our military experts note that the Missile Cruiser MOSKVA is armed with the weapons, radar and electronic gear of an [aircraft] carrier hunter. “The American intelligence briefing for the US President further disclosed that sophisticated Russian air defense systems are to be installed for the dual purpose of protecting the TARTUS NAVAL BASE and the SHEHAB-3 missile emplacements. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources identify the system as the S-300PMU-2. It will be operated by Russian military crews and not put in Syrian hands. “This air defense system is comparable to the American Patriot, but is more effective. “The version to be deployed in Syria is geared to intercept ballistic missiles. It has the great advantage of being ready to fire five minutes after receiving orders …”

This explains why Iran has blatantly defied the world and continued developing nuclear warheads, which are closer to becoming operational than we dare believe. Second, it explains the reason why the Iranian and Syrian defense ministers signed a mutual defense pact last June 15th. Third, it gives the reason for Hezbollah launching a war with Israel when they did. It was to divert the G-8 leaders from seriously debating action about the Iranian nuclear threat. And Vladimir Putin played a masterful game of concealing what his forces are doing. Fourth, it explains why Syria and Iran are unafraid to openly support Hezbollah in their war with Israel and support terrorist that target US troops in Iraq. Russia is in the background guaranteeing their protection. Debka reports that they found data indicating that Russia helped persuade Syrian President Bashir Assad to accept the placement of Iranian missiles on their soil by hinting that “it is part of their own deepening strategic plans for Syria.

More http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/arti...rticleID=13165

Excellent point, Walky. You are right about the secrecy of the Russians. I have searched on the internet numerous times in the past for the Treaty they signed with the Iranians (was it back in the 70's? The Grand Design Treaty) and could not find it. I know it exists because I have read about the Treaty and it has been verified as fact by certain people (interviewed by authors). Still it is difficult to find much about it - the Treaty was signed between the Russians and the Iranians and the guarantee was that the Russians would back the Iranians (against the USA).

 

[rightwinger]

Before you answer plz watch this:

Are you fucking crazy?

You want me to watch a 49 minute video before I can answer your stupid question?

No, China is not our biggest military threat. On the basis of thousands of nuclear warheads and the capability to deliver them, Russia is our biggest threat

I'm glad to see you finally waking up, R.W.. That is encouraging news.

Well its hard to pick otherwise
Since most of the global military powers are our allies, there are only a few that would qualify as "our biggest threat"

Russia, China, N Korea....the only ones with any significant military

We can easily beat them all, but if forced to choose...I would go with Russia as the biggest

 

[waltky]

Jeremiah...

... check with DEBKAfile...

... they may have the original in their archives.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Jeremiah...

... check with DEBKAfile...

... they may have the original in their archives.

Thank you, Waltky.

 

[HenryBHough]

China is NOT America's greatest military threat.

America's greatest military threat is Our Kenyan Emperor's emasculation of the military.

 

[Taz]

Our biggest threat is the US army. It gets more of our people killed and injured than even the NRA.

 

[Antimatter]

As a hypothetical thinker I would have to say no. The biggest threat to the U.S. and the rest of the world is aliens. We've managed to always fight war on the ground we've never fought an interstellar war.

 

[IsaacNewton]

We spend as much a year on defense as the next 15 countries combined.

So 'the largest threat' is really a mute point. If that isn't enough money to keep us safe then how exactly do each of the 15 sleep at night?

 

[HenryBHough]

On reconsideration I reaffirm my belief that America's biggest military threat indeed is not China.

Rather, space aliens.

We're surviving with just one - the one int he (former) White House but if we get any more we may be in deep shit.

 

[irosie91]

On reconsideration I reaffirm my belief that America's biggest military threat indeed is not China.

Rather, space aliens.

We're surviving with just one - the one int he (former) White House but if we get any more we may be in deep shit.

Kryponite

 

[Camp]

As a hypothetical thinker I would have to say no. The biggest threat to the U.S. and the rest of the world is aliens. We've managed to always fight war on the ground we've never fought an interstellar war.

None that has been recorded.

 

[rightwinger]

On reconsideration I reaffirm my belief that America's biggest military threat indeed is not China.

Rather, space aliens.

We're surviving with just one - the one int he (former) White House but if we get any more we may be in deep shit.

ET aliens or Predator aliens?

 

[Mr Natural]

We spend as much a year on defense as the next 15 countries combined.

So 'the largest threat' is really a mute point. If that isn't enough money to keep us safe then how exactly do each of the 15 sleep at night?

They can sleep at night because nobody wants to kill them.

We're the only ones that others want to kill.