Is America going to fail?

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    Is USA going to be next country with country-wide paralysis of economony and government collapse, just as it is in Greece-case?

    There are multiple publications of Nial Ferguson on the net, in which he actually proves that USA will fail. OMG, time to pack my bags ;).
     
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    I see lots of problems ahead. The definition of Fail is different for everybody. We have not done anything effective to offset this economic collapse except pretend that everything is getting better. That, of course, is going to create tremendous difficulty in the next two years.
     
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    If enough people who see and understand the direction we're taking stand up and protest and exercise their right to vote I think America will recover. It may be a long, hard battle but then the American Revolution was also a long, hard fought battle, was it not? The so-called "Tea Partiers" are a good start.
     
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    Something will happen that will be labeled failure and there may well be short periods of acute discomfort. It is time to reboot the government because it has been redesigned for an industrial economy and while US industrial output is, if anything growing, due to automation that has almost nothing to do with employment any more. The Fisher-Keynesian synthesis of the 20s and 30s is dead because it is now known that the fit between their math tools and reality just about didn't exist. Since central banking is based on that synthesis that will probably be either junked with a return to specie or be replaced with an automated program. But end of civilization I kind of doubt.
     
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    Collapse has been the PLAN of every administration for the last 30+ years. They've been integrating our economy with regional economies, and harmonizing our internal policies and procedures from different federal departments to align with the policies ond procedures of other economic regions around the world.

    Now thay we're 90% there and the banks who are in control have re-distributed the US manufacturing base to other nations throughout the world, the US economic collapse has been moved into high gear. That's how they managed to merge our economy into a global accounting system last year without even a whimper from Americans who value a representative government. When the 11 million US properties that are currently in default becomes 20 million in the next two years, local and state economies will be falling like domino's. When that happens we'll be told that a plan to merge us into a stable regional system (like the EU) has been developed in order to provide the help and stability that we need - for the sake of our children, etc etc.

    Most Americans - who have no clue that our collapse has been orchestrated as part of a global power grab - many who have lost their homes, their jobs, and their way of life - will grab onto anything that looks like a life raft when that time comes and they won't even think about national sovereignty or free markets, except as a possible afterthought.

    This orchestrated collapse will ultimately be used as the tool to eliminate the United States as a sovereign independent nation. When it's all said and done, we'll be integrated into a regional economic system. We'll be told that we are still sovereign, but the economic control will fall under a single regional system rather than under a sovereign, elected US government. And those who control the dollars will control the policy, just as in the EU.
     
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    Agreed. The fact that the mainstream media tells so many lies about them (racism etc) and the fact that mainstream tools like Palin are trying to hijack them speaks volumes. The banks are running around with their tails between their legs trying to figure out how they can use their media machine to demonize and discredit them in any way possible.
     
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    The United States cannot print money and issue debt ad infinitum. However, it issues the world's reserve currency, so it has privileges the rest of the world does not.
     
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    the American people are being robbed.
    Middle class is getting wiped out basically.
    the only thing the taxpayers bailout money did was keep the banksters in there mansions.
    The poor became poorer and the middle class are getting picked off one by one.
    Only a matter of time before everyone is on food stamps and living in tents.
    Paulson belongs in a jail along with Geithner, what little chance the American people had they destroyed it by bailing out not the people of the united states but bailing out the banksters that created this meltdown.
    Now this thing is so wide spread, just hold on for the ride.
    stock up on food, get canned food that will last along time, its only a matter of time before the collapse.
    the residential property thing was nothing compared to the commercial properties, once that hits, forget it.
     
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    "(If) the fundamental factor in the total strategy of a nation lies in industrial and commercial performance,...(then) Britain's influence died with its economy and a former superpower became an American dependency."

    Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary of Treasury during Reagan's reign, comparing the current US meltdown to Britain's situation at the end of WWII:

    "The off-shoring of jobs that produce goods and services sold in the USA has about doubled the US trade deficit, putting pressure on the dollar as world reserve currency.

    "We pay for the imports of our own companies goods and services by transfering ownership to foreigners of American companies, real estate, bonds, and even toll road revenues."

    Wall Street's control of the US Treasury and Federal Reserve won't be broken by "choosing" between Republican or Democrat.

    Next November 2nd send Wall Street a message by FLUSHING as many Republicans AND Democrats from the US Congress as possible, picking as many replacements as possible from third party candidates.

    FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010!
     
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    The nice thing about being so freakin HUGE is that it takes a long while for us to do anything. We won't fail overnight, just as we didn't rise to prominence overnight.
     

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