IRI: Israel's nukes world's greatest threat

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Iran: Israeli nukes greatest threat to peace
By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press

2:40 p.m., May 2, 2012



VIENNA — A senior Iranian official said Wednesday that Israel's undeclared nuclear weapons pose the greatest threat to Mideast peace and accused the United States and other nuclear powers of hypocritically ignoring their disarmament commitments.

Deputy Foreign Minister Mohammad Mahdi Akhondzadeh's comments to a 189-nation nonproliferation meeting reflected Iran's attempts to deflect international concerns that its nuclear activities could be turned to making weapons.

Usually strident Western criticism of Iran has been muted since the conference opened Monday, possibly due to reluctance to burden the atmosphere ahead of a new meeting later this month between Iran and six powers attempting to nudge it toward concessions meant to ease such worries.

But Akhondzadeh didn't hold back. While avoiding direct mention of the United States, his criticism of "certain nuclear-weapon states" encompassed the U.S., Britain and France - three nations that will be sitting at the table with Iran, along with Russia, China and Germany in Baghdad on May 23.

He also described Israel as posing "the gravest threat to the stability and security" of the Middle East.

Although Israel has never confirmed it, it is widely assumed to be the only Mideast nation to possess nuclear arms.

The United States and its allies see Iran as the greatest potential nuclear threat in the Mideast because of its refusal to stop uranium enrichment and other activities that could be used to make such weapons. But Iran and the Arab states say the Jewish state's undeclared arms program poses the most pressing danger.

The United States has thrown its weight behind efforts to convene a meeting of all Mideast states later this year to discuss creating a region free of weapons of mass destruction.

But neither Israel nor Iran have committed to attending, and a recently retired senior Israeli official told The Associated Press his country was unlikely to attend. He demanded anonymity because his information was confidential.

Israel's absence would strip any such Mideast meeting of significance.

Beyond Israel, Akhondzadeh criticized "certain nuclear-weapon states" that have ratified the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, saying their stockpile of weapons "and their continued modernization ... (is) the most serious threat to the survival of mankind."

He accused them of "lack of effective and systematic progress towards implementing nuclear disarmament obligations" under commitments to the Nonproliferation Treaty.

While he did not name the countries, his use of the term "certain" indicated he was talking about the United States, Britain and France. Iran has been careful not to irk Russia and China, the other two nuclear-weapons states that have signed the Nonproliferation Treaty and which oppose sanctions imposed on the Islamic republic by Washington and its Western allies.

"Certain nuclear-weapon states are expected to display sincerity and political will rather than hypocrisy with regard to their nuclear disarmament obligations," Akhondzadeh said.
The Associated Press
 
Fuck off stoned Jew.
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VIENNA — A senior Iranian official said Wednesday that Israel's undeclared nuclear weapons pose the greatest threat to Mideast peace and accused the United States and other nuclear powers of hypocritically ignoring their disarmament commitments.


This from the head of a fake regime of thugs and murderers, who regularly murders children. A regime that uses suicide bombings of civilians to conduct policy, commits crimes against humanity across the world, is the world's #1 state sponsor of terrorism, and runs one of the world's largest gulags.

The iranian regime might be the lowest form of shit humanity has ever produced; if you think anyone with any sense gives a flying fuck what they say, you are sadly mistaken.
 
Isreal is in violation of international law.

You just made that up, junior. :nono:

Iran is in violation of international law prohibiting state sponsorship of terrorism.

Now, you know, junior :clap2:
 
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United States Senator Daniel Inouye, President Pro Tempore of the US Senate, Awarded Medal of Honor, Purple Heart, Distinguished Service Cross, Bronze Star...
If one looks at most of this world, especially the Middle East, one country stands out as a foundation of stability and as a pillar of democracy. And at a time like this, when you have revolution in Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, Egypt, Tunisia and Jordan, thank God we have Israel.
Top senator: An attack on Israel is an a... JPost - International
 
rhodescholar, Ariux, et al,

People often ask this question. In fact, Israel is a protected nation under the umbrella of the US in this issue.

Isreal is in violation of international law.

Really, How so, idiot?
(REFERENCE)

  • (viii) The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory;

SOURCE: Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court

(NOTE)

Israel is not a signatory to the treatise, and the US unsigned the treatise. But all of Europe and the entire Middle East/Persian Gulf (less Israel) is a signatory. Both Pakistan and India are also non-signatories of the NPT; but, only differ from Israel in their acknowledgement of possessing nuclear weapons.

(COMMENT)

This is a case that the UN cannot act in either case (the Rome Statues or the NPT) because of the shield the US provides through its veto power. But it is well understood (elsewhere in the world) that Israel has been in violation and operating outside the normally accepted protocol since the establishment of the "Occupied Territories" and the expansion of Israeli Settlements, as well as the Nuclear Protocols.

This is probably the single biggest obstacle to peace in the region.

(NUCLEAR WEAPONS)

Israel is, what is often described as, Nuclear Ambiguous. It is not a declared Nuclear Weapons State.

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first disclosed and reproduced in Rowan Scarborough,
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The question is not whether Israel has them; but rather, whether the US and UN recognize the existence of Israeli Nuclear Weapons; and if the existence of Israeli Nuclear Weapons contributes to the stabilization of security in the region. To date, the US follows the Israeli approach of neither confirming or denial. By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries which proliferate weapons of mass destruction. By the US pretending to be blind, and ignoring its own intelligence estimates, the US avoids the legal complications associated with Israel being a Nuclear Weapons State. But it makes the Middle East/Persian Gulf Region a US aborted Nuclear Weapons Free region, and the US goal of disarmament selectively applied.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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rhodescholar...

That was one of THE most bizarre, psychotic posts I've ever seen... :eek:

The poster mixed up no less than THREE, completely distinct and separate agreements - the Rome Statute, the 4th Geneva Conventions, and the Non-Proliferation Treaty on nuclear armaments, and maybe a few others.

Along with the fact that this poster is wrong about the 4GC, and applied them completely inaccurately.

All I can respond to this person is: WTF on earth are you talking about?
 
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Everyone staying up at night losing sleep over those Israelis? After all, iran and the muslimes are peaceful.
 
rhodescholar, et al,

I beg your pardon.

rhodescholar...

That was one of THE most bizarre, psychotic posts I've ever seen... :eek:

The poster mixed up no less than THREE, completely distinct and separate agreements - the Rome Statute, the 4th Geneva Conventions, and the Non-Proliferation Treaty on nuclear armaments, and maybe a few others.

Along with the fact that this poster is wrong about the 4GC, and applied them completely inaccurately.

All I can respond to this person is: WTF on earth are you talking about?
(COMMENT)

When Israel is mentioned as being on the wrong side of international law, they are usually referring to one of two aspects.

  • The Occupation of the Occuppied Territories; or,
  • The Status of Nuclear Weapons.

I did not mention the 4th Geneva Convention at all. I did mention the Rome Statue in regard to the displacement of the indigenous population and the transplant of Israeli citizens. (A violation of International Law.)

I also mentioned the general belief that the balance of power and the stability of peace in the region is threatened by the Israeli policy of Nuclear Ambiguity. (Which is not a violation of law/treaty as they are not a signatory to the NPT; but could be subject to sanctions if the true status was actually recognized.)

I do not think I miss applied the Rome Statue position. The statue is quoted directly.

Both these issues (and sometimes more) are often lumped together, describing a pattern of misconduct by the Israelis. Both do not contribute to the stability of the region. My post was meant to distinguish between the two (one a violation of International Law, and one a violation of US Sanction implementation).

I sincerely apologize if that was not made clear.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
JStone, et al,

Yes,,,

Everyone staying up at night losing sleep over those Israelis? After all, iran and the muslimes are peaceful.
(COMMENT)

Israel is what it is. In half a century, it has not been able to resolve its neighborhood differences. This is not a one sided affair. Both sides have legitimate grievances and concerns. And Israel is an ally of the US only in matter of convenience (Remember the USS Liberty. They have no special love for Americans.).

On the other hand, Iran and a segment of the "radical" Islamic community poses unique and very different challenges to both Regional and World Peace. While Iran is being a pain in the ass, there are extenuating circumstances and prejudicial actions that are questionable. But while Iran is an Islamic country, the religion is not the true problem.

Muslims are not, as a whole, a threat to America. Radicalism is the threat. The struggle for power and control. And in that struggle, where Islam is used as a vehicle, is the threat to peace.

I'm not defending Iran, but I do see some of the points they make. While it may be the case that Iran could be in violation of a treaty, they need only withdraw from the treaty under Article X, and the legal issues are resolved. But that doesn't address the fears that have been raised. (Remember, it was not Iran that threatened an Act of War.)

Is Iran a non-Interventionist country? No. They are actively involved in a number of Proxy Activities and covert actions. But that is not the overt basis for the implementation of sanctions. Proliferation is the basis for the sanctions.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
et al,

Yes, the old Manifest Destiny argument.

Really, How so, idiot?

Right now, they're building illegal settlements, for example.
Settlements on land that they conquered after after 5 Arab nations attacked them? So I guess California, Arizona, and Texas should also be called illegal settlements on Mexican land.
(COMMENT)

You will notice that California, Arizona, and Texas are annexed states, with ALL the indigenous people granted US Citizenship, with the exact same protections. This is no way comparable to the Occupied Territories.

But more importantly, we should remember that there were many things America did in its quest for expansion that were not strictly kosher. We stole land from the Native Indians, as well as the Mexican Americans at the conclusion of hostilities. Our hands are not totally clean.

Most Respectfully,
R
 

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