Ireland supports Palestinian statehood

You didn't read my link :) Under sea cable to Norway and I am sure we will connect to Ireland to. Scotland and Norway are able to produce this because of their unique position to the sea using Hydro electric, tidal power wave power and much more. The various sources are in this wiki article

Renewable energy in Scotland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Salmond thinks it could be going by I think 2020 but critics say he is optimistic.

With regards to our North Sea Gas we intend once we have control of it to invest it for our future in much the same way as Norway has done. The Gulf States once they get their freedom would do well to do same and keep their future prosperity in tact.

We are far in advance of you guys on renewable energy I think ;)

Must dash.

Yes I read your link. They have not even begun discussions.

Critics say he is optimistic? How about delusional. :)

There is nothing delusional about this. Scotland has had Hydro Electricity for many years and is intent on being a world leader on Green energy.



Five firms eye UK-Norway power link by 2020 | Reuters


a few months later

A PROJECT to build a direct link between the Scottish and European electrical grids has come a step closer to fruition, after an application was submitted by the group behind the plans to connect to the National Grid at Peterhead.

NorthConnect, a Norwegian-registered consortium jointly owned by 5 companies including a subsidiary of Perth-based Scottish and Southern Energy, plans to build the 570 kilometre, 1,400MW cable between Scotland and Norway. The high-voltage DC cable will need a plant in Peterhead to convert incoming electricity into AC power suitable for the National Grid and outgoing electricity into DC power.

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One of the problems highlighted by critics of renewable energy is that it can be hard to tailor output to demand. If the project goes ahead, one of the cable’s main uses will be to allow Scottish renewable producers to export surplus electricity, which can be used to help Norwegian hydro-electric stations to pump water into reservoirs, acting as a store for the energy which can later be released to create power at times of high demand. Project backers believe that it can contribute to enhanced security of energy supply in both the Nordic market area and UK, help deliver to more stable energy prices for consumers and facilitate the development of renewable generation in both regions.

Norway power link for North East - Local Businesses - Ellon Times

and

PLANS for a subsea power cable that would enable the export and import of electricity between Scotland and Norway have been submitted.

The proposal was described by a Scottish Government spokesman as the “genesis” of the drive towards development of a supergrid that connects Scotland to electricity markets across Europe.

NorthConnect, a Norwegian company jointly owned by Scottish and Southern Energy, Agder Energi, Lyse and Vattenfall has lodged its application with National Grid.

The 354 mile, 1,400MW cable would come to land at Peterhead, where it would connect to the electricity grid.

It would be the first cable to connect Scotland’s network to that of mainland Europe.

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Scotland is expected to generate large amounts of offshore wind power, whereas Norway has vast amounts of hydro power, meeting most of its electricity needs.

The cable would allow export and import between countries, potentially enabling low carbon supply with less need for back-up from fossil fuels.

It could also open up wider markets for Scotland’s surplus renewable energy.


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The Scottish Government has targets of generating the equivalent of 100 per cent of its electricity needs from renewable sources by 2020, but the same again from fossil fuels, meaning it could have a large surplus to export.

“An interconnector will connect our growth market UK with the Nordic market, contribute to security of supply in both regions and combine intermittent renewable capacities,” Harald von Heyden, head of asset optimisation and Trading at Vattenfall.

A Scottish Government spokesman said: “The EU recognises that an integrated European grid is essential to ensure Scotland’s resources fully contribute to Europe’s sustainable energy future.

“These plans constitute the first, vital step towards the integration of Scotland’s electricity network into such a pan-European grid.”

Cable to Norway could be subsea

Scotland is a waste.

Massachussets Institute of Technology [MIT]...
As a world leader in science and technology, Israel excels in such areas as genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics, and engineering. Scientists at Israeli universities such as Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, Hebrew University, The Technion--Israel Institute of Technology, Tel Aviv University and the Weizmann Institute of Science are pioneers in areas such as stem cell-based tissue engineering, nanotechnology, high-resolution electron microscopy, and solar energy. Israeli companies have developed such diverse products as the first anti-virus package, technologies that allow you to leave voice mail on mobile phones, and stents that save lives by keeping the arteries to the heart open.
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Israel is the global leader. Scotland, not so much

Israel: An Emerging Leader in Clean Technologies

Israel is a global leader in apartheid terrorism and nothing else.

Wealthy US Jewish businessmen set up branches in Israel and pretend they are Jewish industries.

Israel would whither to nothing without the massive US taxpayer handouts. :evil:
 
Ireland will be enjoying Scotland/Norway's Green energy like the rest of Europe

Scottish European Green Energy Centre
Norway will make large profitts on a project like that. They have 50% of all hydropower in the EU.

And they will still need petroleum products for the next few decades years or so.

Maybe hundreds of years more. :eusa_shhh:

No one has actually said anything about giving up on gas and oil while we have it to sell for the next 40 years - but hundreds of years???... you are being a bit optimistic that the world will still be habitable if we do not change our energy to green (and also optimistic that we will not destroy it with wars.)

Anyway this is a very ambitious project to make Scotland right out at the front of renewable energy. However anyone who knows Alex Salmond will know that just because something appears a bit over ambitious does not mean it will not be seen through.

I thought perhaps it had hit a problem as funding from the UK government has dried up and obviously without funding work cannot be done.......

However, looks like Mr Salmond is not to be deterred and he has been off to visit the part of the world where this part of this thread began to secure funding for research and investment for both our futures.

Scotland courts green Arab investors - UPI.com

Our green energy ambitions are not only important to play a part on keeping this world habitable, they are also a key part of creating a good future for the Scottish people, one which will allow them to offer their people a decent standard of living and give them the confidence to vote for independence. Independence will allow Scotland to be governed by politics of her own choosing - something she has not enjoyed since before the Thatcher years.

Scottish First Minister Confident of Energy Policy - Global Agenda - News - Israel National News
 
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Norway will make large profitts on a project like that. They have 50% of all hydropower in the EU.

And they will still need petroleum products for the next few decades years or so.

Maybe hundreds of years more. :eusa_shhh:

No one has actually said anything about giving up on gas and oil while we have it to sell for the next 40 years - but hundreds of years???... you are being a bit optimistic that the world will still be habitable if we do not change our energy to green (and also optimistic that we will not destroy it with wars.)

Anyway this is a very ambitious project to make Scotland right out at the front of renewable energy. However anyone who knows Alex Salmond will know that just because something appears a bit over ambitious does not mean it will not be seen through.

I thought perhaps it had hit a problem as funding from the UK government has dried up and obviously without funding work cannot be done.......

However, looks like Mr Salmond is not to be deterred and he has been off to visit the part of the world where this part of this thread began to secure funding for research and investment for both our futures.

Scotland courts green Arab investors - UPI.com

Our green energy ambitions are not only important to play a part on keeping this world habitable, they are also a key part of creating a good future for the Scottish people, one which will allow them to offer their people a decent standard of living and give them the confidence to vote for independence. Independence will allow Scotland to be governed by politics of her own choosing - something she has not enjoyed since before the Thatcher years.

Scottish First Minister Confident of Energy Policy - Global Agenda - News - Israel National News

And you are being a bit pessimistic imo. Both your view and my view are personal opinions of the future. Your view is no better than mine.

Oil will be with us for a long time imo. :razz:
 
And they will still need petroleum products for the next few decades years or so.

Maybe hundreds of years more. :eusa_shhh:

No one has actually said anything about giving up on gas and oil while we have it to sell for the next 40 years - but hundreds of years???... you are being a bit optimistic that the world will still be habitable if we do not change our energy to green (and also optimistic that we will not destroy it with wars.)

Anyway this is a very ambitious project to make Scotland right out at the front of renewable energy. However anyone who knows Alex Salmond will know that just because something appears a bit over ambitious does not mean it will not be seen through.

I thought perhaps it had hit a problem as funding from the UK government has dried up and obviously without funding work cannot be done.......

However, looks like Mr Salmond is not to be deterred and he has been off to visit the part of the world where this part of this thread began to secure funding for research and investment for both our futures.

Scotland courts green Arab investors - UPI.com

Our green energy ambitions are not only important to play a part on keeping this world habitable, they are also a key part of creating a good future for the Scottish people, one which will allow them to offer their people a decent standard of living and give them the confidence to vote for independence. Independence will allow Scotland to be governed by politics of her own choosing - something she has not enjoyed since before the Thatcher years.

Scottish First Minister Confident of Energy Policy - Global Agenda - News - Israel National News

And you are being a bit pessimistic imo. Both your view and my view are personal opinions of the future. Your view is no better than mine.

Oil will be with us for a long time imo. :razz:

I am not sure where you think I am giving a personal view. If you do not believe in climate change then OK, that is for a different thread.

Regarding supplies of oil, yes, I know there are supplies which could last hundreds of years. Scotland has at least 40 years, that was what I was referring to.

On the question which you had asked previously whether Scotland would be using oil for hundreds of years, I doubt it. We are aiming at 100% renewables for electricity by 2020. Now obviously I cannot say that they will make it, only that Alex Salmond does have a habit of managing to get what he wants.

This however is not my opinion at all. It is what we are working towards and the idea that we will still be stuck needing petroleum products for hundreds of years when we are aiming at 100% renewable for electricity by 2020 and that this is just differences of opinion....is suggesting that existence does not exist.



Scotland's Renewables Ambitions | GreenEnergyNet.com
 
Ireland is a drunken shithole. Those drunk Irish bums ought to focus on their shitty country.

Ireland's economy: Threadbare :lol: :clap2:

In recent weeks the bond markets have become frantic about the sorry state of Ireland’s economy, public finances and banks. Investors have rushed out of Irish government debt: ten-year bond yields rose to nearly 9% last week, six and a half percentage points more than German ones, though they have fallen a bit since. The worries have also infected the bonds of other weak economies at the periphery of the euro zone (see article). Investors have been unnerved by Germany’s insistence that plans for a sovereign-debt default should be built into any future euro-zone rescue scheme.

Ireland is in deep trouble. Its economy is yet truly to emerge from a recession that began in early 2007 (see chart 1). Since then GDP has risen in only one quarter. GNP (a better guide to Irish living standards, because it excludes the net flows of income to parents of the country’s many foreign-owned firms) has fallen for nine quarters in a row. Consumer spending has fallen even harder than income: households saved 12% of their disposable income last year, up from 3.9% two years ago. House prices, which had risen faster than in any other rich country, are 36% below their 2006 peak and still falling. Job prospects are bleak. The unemployment rate is close to 14%, up from 4% or so in the mid-2000s.

The public finances are in a dreadful mess. The government is on track to spend 12% of GDP more than it takes in taxes this year, even after spending cuts and tax rises worth €14.5 billion ($19.6 billion). The deficit will be a staggering 32% of GDP once injections of capital into broken banks are taken into account (see chart 2). The total cost to the state could rise to €50 billion, or 30% of GDP. Anglo Irish Bank, a reckless property lender taken over by the government in January 2009, would account for two-thirds of that.

Ireland's economy: Threadbare | The Economist
 
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Hos, you have Jew Envy. Sucks being a shitty ****, si, puta? Pobrecita! :lol:

9 Reasons Why Spain Is A Dead Economy Walking :lol:
Barring an economic bailout of mammoth proportions, the economy of Spain is completely and totally doomed. The socialist government of Spain is drowning in debt, unemployment is running rampant and everywhere you turn there are major economic problems. So will Spain be the next Greece? No. When the economy of Spain implodes it is going to be a whole lot worse...
9 Reasons Why Spain Is A Dead Economy Walking

Business Week: Israel Punches Above Weight As GDP Beats Developed World :clap2:
Never mind the collapse in confidence in Europe...The Israeli economy just keeps growing faster than the rest of the developed world. The International Monetary Fund this week raised its forecast for the country and cut its estimate for the global economy on the impact of the European debt crisis. Israel's gross domestic product will expand 4.8 percent this year, according to the Washington-based lender. That's up from an April forecast of 3.8 percent and triple the pace for the average of the 34 advanced economies.

Citigroup Inc. said on Sept. 18 it would establish a new Israeli research center and Standard & Poor's a week earlier raised the country's credit rating. It cited the discovery of two gas fields off the coast of Israel that hold an estimated 25 trillion cubic feet of the fuel. Mellanox Technologies Ltd., the 12-year-old Israeli adapter maker part-owned by Oracle Corp., says sales will grow 80 percent in the third quarter. “The Israeli economy is very vibrant,” Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz said in a Sept. 20 interview with Bloomberg Television. “We enjoy very low unemployment and nice economic growth and this is mainly because we managed to develop very advanced high tech industries and very strong exports.”

Technology Capital: The stock market in Israel, whose population of 7.8 million is similar to Switzerland's, was upgraded to developed-market status by MSCI Inc. in May 2010, the same month the 63-year-old country was accepted into the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The country has about 60 companies traded on the Nasdaq Stock Market, the most of any nation outside North America after China and is also home to the largest number of startup companies per capita in the world. Israel ranks third in terms of projected growth this year among MSCI's list of 24 developed economies, after 6 percent for Hong Kong and 5.3 percent for Singapore, according to the IMF

Israel's exports are high-added value exports like informatics and technology,” said Jean-Dominique Butikofer, a fund manager who helps oversee about $1 billion of emerging- market debt at Union Bancaire Privee in Zurich, including quasi- sovereign Israeli bonds. “They're not exporting Gucci bags. If there's a slowdown, these are the kind of assets that are good to have.

Talent Pool: Venture-capital backed Israeli technology companies raised $364 million in the second quarter of this year, a 77 percent jump from the $206 million raised in the year-earlier period, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP Moneytree report. Seventy-six companies raised funding in the three-month period, compared with only 60 last year, the report said. “One reason that the economy continues to do well is the component of innovation and ability to adapt to a changing environment,” Citigroup Israel Managing Director Ralph Shaaya said in explaining the New York-based bank's decision to locate a research center in Israel. ‘There is a rich pool of talent in the high tech sector. The propensity for innovation is high.”

The economy may already be feeling the bite. Exports, excluding ships, aircrafts, and diamonds, declined for the fourth month out of five in August to their lowest since January, according to seasonally adjusted figures. This didn't deter Standard & Poor's from raising Israel's credit rating earlier this month to A+, its fifth-highest investment-grade rating, just a few weeks after cutting the U.S. and before cutting Italy. S&P cited the two gas fields, Tamar and Leviathan, off its Mediterranean coast. “You have a situation where the global economy is clearly running into a roadblock and having a tough time while the Israeli economy is going to bend but it isn't going to break,” said Daniel Hewitt, senior emerging-market economist at Barclays Capital in London. “We think Israel can maintain positive growth. Israel has a strong economy with a strong base.”
Israel Punches Above Weight as GDP Beats Developed World - BusinessWeek
 
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Israel is the global leader. Scotland, not so much

Israel: An Emerging Leader in Clean Technologies

Israel is a global leader in apartheid terrorism and nothing else.




Dr. Wafa Sultan, Human Rights Activist, Among "Time magazine's 100 heroes and pioneers whose power, talent or moral example is transforming our world"Wafa Sultan - The 2006 TIME 100 - TIME.

I believe that any nation that grants equal opportunity to every citizen, regardless of race, religion, political affiliation, or gender, thereby, establishes its moral legitimacy. According to this principle, Israel stands alone in the Middle East region, as a nation with moral legitimacy: it grants all citizens equal rights for men and women alike, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech and of the press. Not a single Arab or Muslim country in the surrounding region does the same. Nor do any of those Arab and Muslim nations allow their citizens personal freedom, or the right to maintain and express opposing points of view.

A Palestinian women's organization reported that Muslim men perpetrate some 40 honor killings annually in the West Bank alone, not including the vast majority of honor killing and abuse of women that go unreported -- as Islamic society maintains secrecy in upholding the popular belief that those "cursed with a sin, [should] hide it."

These essential qualities of life provide oxygen for the human soul; they are the kind of basic nourishment that is desperately missing in all of Israel's Muslim neighbors. Yet, the so-called humanitarian aid organizations at the United Nations direct all their energy to act against anything and everything Israel does. Let me ask: as every human being deserves to live in dignity, why has an enormous unbalanced portion of global aid gone mostly to Palestinians, while millions of underprivileged people all over the world suffer genuine, life-threatening deprivation?

Here is why: The United Nations time and again focuses its power on the perpetual manufacturing of false anti-Israel accusations. Painting Palestinians as perennial underdogs provides the perfect cover for their subversive effort. Without doubt, this trend encourages hatred and violence against the Jewish people in Israel and everywhere else. And that is exactly its point.Those who love liberty and life will strengthen their ties and warm relations with Israel, and stand with her. Israel will continue to shine its light among all nations.

The United Nations and Human Rights Abuse | EuropeNews
 
So, when the resources are emptied. What will there be left? America has hardly tapped its reserves. Canadian oil deposits are huge as well.

G-d's design?

Ireland will be enjoying Scotland/Norway's Green energy like the rest of Europe



Scottish European Green Energy Centre

Unlikely since Ireland will be supplying the U.K with green energy to make up for its shortfall, the cable is being laid already. Ireland is way ahead of the U.K in green energy production and will supply not receive.
UK urges Ireland to build windfarms on west coast | Environment | The Observer
 
So, when the resources are emptied. What will there be left? America has hardly tapped its reserves. Canadian oil deposits are huge as well.

G-d's design?

Ireland will be enjoying Scotland/Norway's Green energy like the rest of Europe



Scottish European Green Energy Centre

Unlikely since Ireland will be supplying the U.K with green energy to make up for its shortfall, the cable is being laid already. Ireland is way ahead of the U.K in green energy production and will supply not receive.
UK urges Ireland to build windfarms on west coast | Environment | The Observer


Ha ha, an article suggesting Britain ruin idyllic scenery in Ireland to bring us more green energy makes you believe that Ireland has advanced research. I do not know what she has done but that does not say it!

I don't think you are Northern Irish given your previous description of the Northern Irish flag symbolism so don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the Irish, my Mother came from Dublin and I have relatives all over ......but did it ever occur to you that Britain does not want wind farms wrecking her scenery. There are protests whenever suggested and I would imagine there will be in Ireland too.

I am not in competition with the people of Ireland. My saying we (Scotland) would provide her with green energy was said in friendship, not competition. If we are going to be involved in providing it to Europe it would not be friendly to leave Ireland out if she needs but if Ireland is self sufficient then all will be well anyway.

Your article is talking about -plans concerning all areas of the UK and Ireland getting together for Green energy. This article includes even the Channel Islands.

Ireland does have some of the advantages of Scotland in being able to make wind and possibly tidal, though I would think possibly the Scottish islands might be better for that.....
but the UK trying to get Ireland to wreck her scenery to provide the UK with green energy does not change the reality that Scotland on it's own is determined in being a world leader in green energy something which Alex Salmond believes will stand us in good stead when he manages to get us to vote for independence......

and just to finish, my belief is that Ireland and Scotland would always have warm relations that was all my previous comment was about - after Independence with the North - we shall see.
 
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Personally I have no problems with having wind turbines and selling the electricity of to another country, I like the look of the turbines so have no problem with their location (I have one in my back garden) so its not a question of competition as far as I am concerned but to suggest that Ireland (Eire) would receive electricty from another place is imo a bit silly since Ireland was able to supply 50% of all its electric needs via wind turbines earlier this year. N.I is currently running a nice tidal turbine in Strangford Lough with a decent output of 1.2 megawatt which is enough to run a small town, you might find this article intresting.
SeaGen tidal power marine turbine plugs into electricity grid | Environment | guardian.co.uk
 

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