Iraq NOT part of Terror War (Anymore)

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    TWISI, the Iraq situation has changed, since about last August, in two ways:
    1) Because no link to Anti-US terror groups prior to 9/11/01 have come anywhere close to being proved (and most have been dis-proved), I say that the Iraq situation is no longer part of the "War on Terror". It's a separate issue.
    2) Clearly, since US forces have been the pre-eminent power in Iraq since April 03, it's not a war anymore.
    It's an occupation, whether we call it one or not.
    Surely that's what the Iraqis think now.

    Where do we go from here on Iraq? I say hold elections ASAP, let whoever's not under suspcision of Saddam-era crimes run,
    and who cares what happens after that -- it's their problem, not ours.

    Thought?:cof:
     
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    I don't know if I agree with all of whatyou said, but I believe we should extricate ourselves from Iraq ASAP also.

    We ought to stay in some form to continue to help rebuild their infrastructure(schools, hspitals, security forces), but we need them to hold elections and begin to take more control of running their country.
     
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    Interesting that is the one consistancy, the 'control' will be handed over 6/30, no wavering. Actually I think we shall soon hear the left argue that this is just stubborness on the administration's point.

    They are not going to want the power turn over, they want to yell occupation as the uninformed are still doing. We shall see.
     
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    If the EU were to assume command, the left will want it turned over in a heartbeat.
     
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    I am laughing at this dude!

    Links have been proven over and over you just continue to ignore them.

    We call it an occupation ourselves. We treat is as an occupation. So who is saying it is not an occupation? It will be an occupation until 30 June when we pass over rule of the country to the governing council.

    Exactly. Do you watch the news? What do you think 30 June is all about??
     
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    Not sure what you mean exactly but...

    re: the June 30th takeover-

    I actually sort of dread this day. Given the continued violence and instabilty, the recent Chalabi investigation, and assasinations of Council Leaders(can't remmebr if the recent one was a 1st or 2nd) Idon't see this going smoothly.

    But it has to happen sometime, and I'm of the opinion that the sooner the better. I DO THINK that once governance is more under Iraqi control, Iraqis will feel more reassured and anti-US opinion will diminish.

    What do you think?
     
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    EU doesn't want to take over, even if they did, they wouldn't be able so it's moot.

    The dems are all about winning in November, which means Bush must fail, Kerry is NOT likable-he can't win under present circumstances, which is aying quite alot about his unlikability.
     
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    What are you talking about?

    You ought to pay attention to what the EU and US are doing regarding Iraq.

    1. They DO want to take over
    2. They ARE working on an agreement.
    3. THEY CAN

    -IT isn't moot.

    You like to disregard my statements with a wave of your hand, and thats fine--If you want to ignore reality.
     
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    I was wondering if she isn't a bit tipsy this morning, I have had trouble understanding what she is talking about as well. Thanks for the clarification, lol.
     
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    I must be tipsy too, I understand this part:p:
     

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