Iraq for Sale

[newpolitics]

You mean Cheney did some favors for his friends? Oh My! A Politician doing favors for their friends? Gee how shocking! lol! Naive wingers always make me laugh. Politicians do favors for their friends all the time all over the World. This stuff just isn't news. This OP just needs to get over his weird obsession with DA BOOOOOSH. Then he needs to grow up.

I'm just going to go ahead and say to you, that you are an asshole. A big fucking asshole. Stop telling me to grow up and stop hating Bush, when, by you're very name, you wish all liberals to be dead. You're blind hatred for liberals pretty much makes you the least qualified of anyone to judge my beliefs. So, asshole, fuck off...


As for the farce of what you just posted, that you call a response, all I have to say is this: Cheney did a 'favor' for his friends, a favor that American Taxpayers had to pay for, a favor contributed to the neglect of our soldiers in Iraq that even led to their death or at the very least, a lessened sense of security in their everyday routine, a 'favor' that put our tax-dollars into Cheney's pocket. That's your explanation? That's your excuse for this? It's no wonder you're a conservative. You're ability to dismiss the most important pieces of information, and see only what you want to. You're excusing this and even supporting what happened is only testiment to your naivete. Please, stop posting, because you are really annoying.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

You mean Cheney did some favors for his friends? Oh My! A Politician doing favors for their friends? Gee how shocking! lol! Naive wingers always make me laugh. Politicians do favors for their friends all the time all over the World. This stuff just isn't news. This OP just needs to get over his weird obsession with DA BOOOOOSH. Then he needs to grow up.

I'm just going to go ahead and say to you, that you are an asshole. A big fucking asshole. Stop telling me to grow up and stop hating Bush, when, by you're very name, you wish all liberals to be dead. You're blind hatred for liberals pretty much makes you the least qualified of anyone to judge my beliefs. So, asshole, fuck off...


As for the farce of what you just posted, that you call a response, all I have to say is this: Cheney did a 'favor' for his friends, a favor that American Taxpayers had to pay for, a favor contributed to the neglect of our soldiers in Iraq that even led to their death or at the very least, a lessened sense of security in their everyday routine, a 'favor' that put our tax-dollars into Cheney's pocket. That's your explanation? That's your excuse for this? It's no wonder you're a conservative. You're ability to dismiss the most important pieces of information, and see only what you want to. You're excusing this and even supporting what happened is only testiment to your naivete. Please, stop posting, because you are really annoying.

Oh youngster,you'll understand the big scary World someday. When you grow up and become an adult. Politicians doing favors for their friends is hardly shocking. It's the way it has always been and always will be. Some are just too young & naive to understand this. It's how things have gotten done on this Earth for Thousands & Thousands of years. It may not be right but it is what it is. Such is life on planet Earth.

 

[hipeter924]

You mean Cheney did some favors for his friends? Oh My! A Politician doing favors for their friends? Gee how shocking! lol! Naive wingers always make me laugh. Politicians do favors for their friends all the time all over the World. This stuff just isn't news. This OP just needs to get over his weird obsession with DA BOOOOOSH. Then he needs to grow up.

I'm just going to go ahead and say to you, that you are an asshole. A big fucking asshole. Stop telling me to grow up and stop hating Bush, when, by you're very name, you wish all liberals to be dead. You're blind hatred for liberals pretty much makes you the least qualified of anyone to judge my beliefs. So, asshole, fuck off...


As for the farce of what you just posted, that you call a response, all I have to say is this: Cheney did a 'favor' for his friends, a favor that American Taxpayers had to pay for, a favor contributed to the neglect of our soldiers in Iraq that even led to their death or at the very least, a lessened sense of security in their everyday routine, a 'favor' that put our tax-dollars into Cheney's pocket. That's your explanation? That's your excuse for this? It's no wonder you're a conservative. You're ability to dismiss the most important pieces of information, and see only what you want to. You're excusing this and even supporting what happened is only testiment to your naivete. Please, stop posting, because you are really annoying.

Oh youngster,you'll understand the big scary World someday. When you grow up and become an adult. Politicians doing favors for their friends is hardly shocking. It's the way it has always been and always will be. Some are just too young & naive to understand this. It's how things have gotten done on this Earth for Thousands & Thousands of years. It may not be right but it is what it is. Such is life on planet Earth.

For me leftism was something to grow out of, by university I went from left wing to centralist, to right wing to....what Ayn Rand couldn't step up to (anarcho-capitalism). I begun hating the Jews in high school for 'oppressing the Palestinians', the US was the 'evil imperialist' out to 'destroy people's rights and their nations', capitalism was an evil system that had to be destroyed and replaced by a more ethical system (thus years of EU worship).

After I read beyond the government sponsored propaganda in the school system, religious texts, and thought for myself that is what changed my mind and made me realize that sure corporations and government can be evil, but they are groups of people and just as capable as any other institution or organization to commit disreputable actions, some call them gangsters which is probably a fair assessment considering we don't have a free market, we have regulations put in place by competing corporations (in some areas), and there are big monopolies and corrupt politicians.

Anyone with sense realizes government and corporations don't work (if you are thinking of eliminating poverty or providing people with more individual freedom), and that there is a better way, if not then we might as well adopt the socialist utopia (direct democracy and intellectual elite) and create a place with no poverty, crime and hunger through massive re-education programs, deeming of all those who disagree with the majority viewpoint insane and in need of re-education, and no thinking, acting or talking out of a group (socialists deny that, but how else could you ensure that the majority always had consensus and always cared for each other in a altruistic fashion, and never made mistakes).

 

[Dr.Drock]

Oddly enough I agree with everyone on here. Libocalypse isn't denying what anyone is said, he just voted for Bush so he feels the need defend him in an odd way. He wants you to stop bashing him and just accept the disaster.

Iraq is/was for sale, so is the US and every other country like he stated. Who do you think runs the US government? Our slimeball bureacrats or the slimeballs at the Fed and the biggest billionaires in the world? I'm more worried about the people who control the money supply than anyone else. These billionaires buy off all our politicians, so our politicians essentially work for them. Like a money theocracy.

So I agree with all of you who say it's a disgusting truth, because it is, and I also agree with Libocalypse that it's the same all over the world.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Oddly enough I agree with everyone on here. Libocalypse isn't denying what anyone is said, he just voted for Bush so he feels the need defend him in an odd way. He wants you to stop bashing him and just accept the disaster.

Iraq is/was for sale, so is the US and every other country like he stated. Who do you think runs the US government? Our slimeball bureacrats or the slimeballs at the Fed and the biggest billionaires in the world? I'm more worried about the people who control the money supply than anyone else. These billionaires buy off all our politicians, so our politicians essentially work for them. Like a money theocracy.

So I agree with all of you who say it's a disgusting truth, because it is, and I also agree with Libocalypse that it's the same all over the world.

Not defending Bush at all. Just stating the reality of the World. At some point you just have to grow up and accept this reality. Politicians have been doing favors for their friends for Thousands & Thousands of years. That didn't just start happening in modern times. It has been the way of the World for a very long time. And guess what? It will always be the way of the World. And now the Iraqi Politicians will begin doing favors for their friends just like all other nations on this Planet do.

Just look at our own current Government here in the States. How many cronies have been given cushy jobs by this current Administration? Cronyism is absolutely rampant in this current Administration. But they're no different than all other previous Administrations dating back to the founding of our Nation. It is what it is. Is it right or wrong? I'll have to let individuals decide that for themselves. But whining about it everyday just aint gonna change it. Politicians will always take care of their friends who help them obtain power. So it's time for many to take their diapers off and grow up. Life's not fair. Seriously,it's true.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Oddly enough I agree with everyone on here. Libocalypse isn't denying what anyone is said, he just voted for Bush so he feels the need defend him in an odd way. He wants you to stop bashing him and just accept the disaster.

Iraq is/was for sale, so is the US and every other country like he stated. Who do you think runs the US government? Our slimeball bureacrats or the slimeballs at the Fed and the biggest billionaires in the world? I'm more worried about the people who control the money supply than anyone else. These billionaires buy off all our politicians, so our politicians essentially work for them. Like a money theocracy.

So I agree with all of you who say it's a disgusting truth, because it is, and I also agree with Libocalypse that it's the same all over the world.

Not defending Bush at all. Just stating the reality of the World. At some point you just have to grow up and accept this reality. Politicians have been doing favors for their friends for Thousands & Thousands of years. That didn't just start happening in modern times. It has been the way of the World for a very long time. And guess what? It will always be the way of the World. And now the Iraqi Politicians will begin doing favors for their friends just like all other nations on this Planet do.

Just look at our own current Government here in the States. How many cronies have been given cushy jobs by this current Administration? Cronyism is absolutely rampant in this current Administration. But they're no different than all other previous Administrations dating back to the founding of our Nation. It is what it is. Is it right or wrong? I'll have to let individuals decide that for themselves. But whining about it everyday just aint gonna change it. Politicians will always take care of their friends who help them obtain power. So it's time for many to take their diapers off and grow up. Life's not fair. Seriously,it's true.

People are on here posting that they've made a moral choice on whether it's right or wrong (wrong in this case) and you're bashing them for it.

There's different ways of educating someone, childishly insulting them rarely works, so do your part in making the world better by making a legitimate valid attempt at helping people understand something that I think you understand well.

Just my advice, do what you want with it.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Oddly enough I agree with everyone on here. Libocalypse isn't denying what anyone is said, he just voted for Bush so he feels the need defend him in an odd way. He wants you to stop bashing him and just accept the disaster.

Iraq is/was for sale, so is the US and every other country like he stated. Who do you think runs the US government? Our slimeball bureacrats or the slimeballs at the Fed and the biggest billionaires in the world? I'm more worried about the people who control the money supply than anyone else. These billionaires buy off all our politicians, so our politicians essentially work for them. Like a money theocracy.

So I agree with all of you who say it's a disgusting truth, because it is, and I also agree with Libocalypse that it's the same all over the world.

Not defending Bush at all. Just stating the reality of the World. At some point you just have to grow up and accept this reality. Politicians have been doing favors for their friends for Thousands & Thousands of years. That didn't just start happening in modern times. It has been the way of the World for a very long time. And guess what? It will always be the way of the World. And now the Iraqi Politicians will begin doing favors for their friends just like all other nations on this Planet do.

Just look at our own current Government here in the States. How many cronies have been given cushy jobs by this current Administration? Cronyism is absolutely rampant in this current Administration. But they're no different than all other previous Administrations dating back to the founding of our Nation. It is what it is. Is it right or wrong? I'll have to let individuals decide that for themselves. But whining about it everyday just aint gonna change it. Politicians will always take care of their friends who help them obtain power. So it's time for many to take their diapers off and grow up. Life's not fair. Seriously,it's true.

People are on here posting that they've made a moral choice on whether it's right or wrong (wrong in this case) and you're bashing them for it.

There's different ways of educating someone, childishly insulting them rarely works, so do your part in making the world better by making a legitimate valid attempt at helping people understand something that I think you understand well.

Just my advice, do what you want with it.

Sorry,but i don't suffer fools lightly. I have no patience for whiny babies. Politicians are always going to help their friends who help them obtain power. Is that right or wrong? I don't know. I just know it's reality and that people have been doing it for a very very long time. People who constantly whine about this stuff are merely naive children. Life just isn't fair. That's just fact. The sooner these naive children grow up and understand this,the better off they'll be. Hey,these are just my opinions though. Do what you want with that.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Not defending Bush at all. Just stating the reality of the World. At some point you just have to grow up and accept this reality. Politicians have been doing favors for their friends for Thousands & Thousands of years. That didn't just start happening in modern times. It has been the way of the World for a very long time. And guess what? It will always be the way of the World. And now the Iraqi Politicians will begin doing favors for their friends just like all other nations on this Planet do.

Just look at our own current Government here in the States. How many cronies have been given cushy jobs by this current Administration? Cronyism is absolutely rampant in this current Administration. But they're no different than all other previous Administrations dating back to the founding of our Nation. It is what it is. Is it right or wrong? I'll have to let individuals decide that for themselves. But whining about it everyday just aint gonna change it. Politicians will always take care of their friends who help them obtain power. So it's time for many to take their diapers off and grow up. Life's not fair. Seriously,it's true.

People are on here posting that they've made a moral choice on whether it's right or wrong (wrong in this case) and you're bashing them for it.

There's different ways of educating someone, childishly insulting them rarely works, so do your part in making the world better by making a legitimate valid attempt at helping people understand something that I think you understand well.

Just my advice, do what you want with it.

Sorry,but i don't suffer fools lightly. I have no patience for whiny babies. Politicians are always going to help their friends who help them obtain power. Is that right or wrong? I don't know. I just know it's reality and that people have been doing it for a very very long time. People who constantly whine about this stuff are merely naive children. Life just isn't fair. That's just fact. The sooner these naive children grow up and understand this,the better off they'll be. Hey,these are just my opinions though. Do what you want with that.

I agree that that's how the world works.

When I first learned that years ago I probably sounded like a "whiny baby" because the overwhelming majority of people don't know this. Maybe you see the overwhelming majority of people as "fools", "whiny babies" and "naive" and if so than that would make them normal humans and naturally naive.

My guess is when you first learned that this is how the world is your probably also sounded like a "whiny baby" but I can't prove it. I just doubt that you were raised thinking all these things are normal, then learned the opposite was true, and just shrugged your shoulders about it all.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

People are on here posting that they've made a moral choice on whether it's right or wrong (wrong in this case) and you're bashing them for it.

There's different ways of educating someone, childishly insulting them rarely works, so do your part in making the world better by making a legitimate valid attempt at helping people understand something that I think you understand well.

Just my advice, do what you want with it.

Sorry,but i don't suffer fools lightly. I have no patience for whiny babies. Politicians are always going to help their friends who help them obtain power. Is that right or wrong? I don't know. I just know it's reality and that people have been doing it for a very very long time. People who constantly whine about this stuff are merely naive children. Life just isn't fair. That's just fact. The sooner these naive children grow up and understand this,the better off they'll be. Hey,these are just my opinions though. Do what you want with that.

I agree that that's how the world works.

When I first learned that years ago I probably sounded like a "whiny baby" because the overwhelming majority of people don't know this. Maybe you see the overwhelming majority of people as "fools", "whiny babies" and "naive" and if so than that would make them normal humans and naturally naive.

My guess is when you first learned that this is how the world is your probably also sounded like a "whiny baby" but I can't prove it. I just doubt that you were raised thinking all these things are normal, then learned the opposite was true, and just shrugged your shoulders about it all.

I hear ya. Fair enough.

 

[Intense]

The Emperor’s New Suit
by
Hans Christian Andersen
(1837)
ANY, many years ago lived an emperor, who thought so much of new clothes that he spent all his money in order to obtain them; his only ambition was to be always well dressed. He did not care for his soldiers, and the theatre did not amuse him; the only thing, in fact, he thought anything of was to drive out and show a new suit of clothes. He had a coat for every hour of the day; and as one would say of a king “He is in his cabinet,” so one could say of him, “The emperor is in his dressing-room.”

The great city where he resided was very gay; every day many strangers from all parts of the globe arrived. One day two swindlers came to this city; they made people believe that they were weavers, and declared they could manufacture the finest cloth to be imagined. Their colours and patterns, they said, were not only exceptionally beautiful, but the clothes made of their material possessed the wonderful quality of being invisible to any man who was unfit for his office or unpardonably stupid.

“That must be wonderful cloth,” thought the emperor. “If I were to be dressed in a suit made of this cloth I should be able to find out which men in my empire were unfit for their places, and I could distinguish the clever from the stupid. I must have this cloth woven for me without delay.” And he gave a large sum of money to the swindlers, in advance, that they should set to work without any loss of time. They set up two looms, and pretended to be very hard at work, but they did nothing whatever on the looms. They asked for the finest silk and the most precious gold-cloth; all they got they did away with, and worked at the empty looms till late at night.

“I should very much like to know how they are getting on with the cloth,” thought the emperor. But he felt rather uneasy when he remembered that he who was not fit for his office could not see it. Personally, he was of opinion that he had nothing to fear, yet he thought it advisable to send somebody else first to see how matters stood. Everybody in the town knew what a remarkable quality the stuff possessed, and all were anxious to see how bad or stupid their neighbours were.

“I shall send my honest old minister to the weavers,” thought the emperor. “He can judge best how the stuff looks, for he is intelligent, and nobody understands his office better than he.”

The good old minister went into the room where the swindlers sat before the empty looms. “Heaven preserve us!” he thought, and opened his eyes wide, “I cannot see anything at all,” but he did not say so. Both swindlers requested him to come near, and asked him if he did not admire the exquisite pattern and the beautiful colours, pointing to the empty looms. The poor old minister tried his very best, but he could see nothing, for there was nothing to be seen. “Oh dear,” he thought, “can I be so stupid? I should never have thought so, and nobody must know it! Is it possible that I am not fit for my office? No, no, I cannot say that I was unable to see the cloth.”

“Now, have you got nothing to say?” said one of the swindlers, while he pretended to be busily weaving.

“Oh, it is very pretty, exceedingly beautiful,” replied the old minister looking through his glasses. “What a beautiful pattern, what brilliant colours! I shall tell the emperor that I like the cloth very much.”

“We are pleased to hear that,” said the two weavers, and described to him the colours and explained the curious pattern. The old minister listened attentively, that he might relate to the emperor what they said; and so he did.

Now the swindlers asked for more money, silk and gold-cloth, which they required for weaving. They kept everything for themselves, and not a thread came near the loom, but they continued, as hitherto, to work at the empty looms.

Soon afterwards the emperor sent another honest courtier to the weavers to see how they were getting on, and if the cloth was nearly finished. Like the old minister, he looked and looked but could see nothing, as there was nothing to be seen.

“Is it not a beautiful piece of cloth?” asked the two swindlers, showing and explaining the magnificent pattern, which, however, did not exist.

“I am not stupid,” said the man. “It is therefore my good appointment for which I am not fit. It is very strange, but I must not let any one know it;” and he praised the cloth, which he did not see, and expressed his joy at the beautiful colours and the fine pattern. “It is very excellent,” he said to the emperor.........

Hans Christian Andersen: The Emperor?s New Suit