Iraq finally getting it's very own Ayatollah!

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    Iraq: Preparing for the Return of Moqtada al-Sadr - TIME

    Moqtada al-Sadr may be Washington's biggest nightmare in Iraq, but the nationalist cleric who led an insurgency against U.S. troops and is currently studying in Iran remains a hero to millions of his Shi'ite followers. That fact has allowed him to use the democratic process to return to center stage of Iraqi politics: When Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki unveiled his new cabinet on Dec. 21, Sadr's lieutenants were awarded eight of the 29 positions announced — a reflection of the fact that Maliki would not be premier without Sadr's support.

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    From the Iraqi Constitution:

    Article 2:

    First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

    A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

    It was only a matter of time. When the US supported Iraqi Constitution was unveiled, we knew Iraq was moving towards an Iranian style of government.

    For those that say, "We can't tell Iraqis how to govern", when we invaded, we did exactly that.
     
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    The think the old Ayatollah doesn't look this mean. People still died.
     
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    He will come back to take over Iraq if Iran has its way...
     
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    Wouldn't the Americans have invaded Iraq, he would not have shot Americans.
    Because he has shot Americans, he is the "bad guy" for the Americans.
    Others see it as it is:
    A man fighting invaders, caring for his own country.
    You could also call him Patriot.
     
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    thx for the moral relativist blurb. I guess offing your political/religious opponents is all good to, it fits in with that patriotism thing. :rolleyes:

    I personally think this is a big mistake. But malicki has boxed himself in.
     
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    Do you "care for your country" if you want to put it under the rule of a medieval religion?
     
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    Oooo... Where can I get one?
     
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    It turned out, that people like Al-Sadr wouldn't welcome the US with flowers as Rumsfeld indicated whilst fabricating a war.

    The rest is just simple propaganda by USA like calling him radical cleric, bad Ayatollah and such. Would Al-Sadr had kissed US boots like others did (Allawi, Kurds), then Al-Sadr would have been portrayed as a true Democrat by US propaganda machinery.

    Doesn't change a fact, that his resistance is and was legitimate.
     
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    The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the BBC the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter.
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

    So practically it means, that Al-Sadr's activities against the occupation are legitimate.
     
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    The issue was that Saddam was a dangerous jerk who was oppressing everyone. No one had a choice but Saddam.

    Now the Iraqis have a choice. It is not my first choice.... Not even within the range of my first 10,000 choices, but it is their country and they get to run it the way that they want as long as they are not a nucince to the rest of the region/world.

    Saying that Iraq is getting an ayatollah is weird. It is like saying Ireland is getting an archbishop. Just because the civil authority does not recognize the religious authority, (like in Ireland) does not mean that someone does not have the job.

    And if there is an Ayatollah in Iraq, it is cool that it be an Iraqi, rather than an Iranian. In pretty much the same way that it is kind of cool that the archbishop of Dublin be Irish rather than Italian.
     

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