Iran’s Newest Benefactor: China

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    The relationship is quite deep, especially in the military arena.

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    Rather than show any indication that it seeks rapprochement with the West, Iran increasingly appears to be using its relationship with China and Russia to stymie the West. Consider the following from the Iranian press: The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ special airborne unit is training in China with Chinese special forces, who are drilling the Iranians on artillery as well as parachuting and jumping from Chinese Z8KA helicopters.

    Given the role of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in projecting Iranian power, as well as training proxy forces and terrorist groups, it’s not a leap to believe that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps might take the lessons learned in China and transmit them to Hezbollah, Hamas, and Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq.

    Kerry myopically viewed diplomacy as a compromise to resolve conflict. He never understood—and his aides were too ambitious to warn him—that countries like Iran, China, and Russia often use diplomacy insincerely as an asymmetric strategy to advance their own power while hamstringing the United States. That does not mean that diplomacy is not valuable; it remains a tool of statecraft. But to enter into it naively severely undercuts the security of the United States and its allies.

    The Iranian Military Is Being Aided by China and Russia
     
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    Remind me. Iran is an enemy why?
     
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    Oh, I should've kept reading: "But to enter into it naively severely undercuts the security of the United States and its (((allies)))." Iran isn't an enemy in the sense of an actual enemy who poses an actual threat to the actual security of the United States. It's an "enemy" in the sense of being next on the list of countries to be obliterated on a bloodthirsty "ally's" path to world domination.
     
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    This is (((classic))). Even though we and our (((allies))) have been the aggressors, the onus is on Iran to seek rapprochement. It reminds me of the time fat venomous NYT columnist Frank Rich referred to the "unrepentant Pat Buchanan". Repent for what, fat Frank? Pat Buchanan is a thousand times the man--in talent, intelligence, patriotism, humanity, honor, courage, integrity, and decency--than that fat pusbag of slime, Frank Rich, will ever hope to be. If anyone needs to be seeking rapprochement, we do with the world.
     
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    Everyone needs allies. We alienate countries, and the world hates us, except of course France, the UK and Germany. (deep down they might as well). The only reason Israel likes the US is Christian money, be assured they also like Russia. The third most pop language in Israel is Russian, not English.
     
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    read the very insightful post of Vikrant-----the OP. also----penny likes the policies of iran
     
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    It reads as if the bare naked existence of Iran "undercuts the security of the United States". And it looks like they scare away Russia and Iran with sanctions and threats and then wonder why they are looking for relationships and alliances elsewhere.

    Russia, Iran to strengthen military ties
     
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    Iran is fomenting extreme violence in areas of the world which it deems useful to its imperialist
    ambitions. Iran is large---has a very powerful military and seeks control over international
    trade. To that end it is very earnestly trying to get control of important sea ports and points of
    access to maritime routes. ------to wit Syria and Yemen. Iran also seeks domination in the "muslim
    world" -----which boils down to two main issues 1) get a controlling foot hold in Saudi Arabia
    2 -be the force which destroys da jooos Yemen borders Saudi Arabia and Syria borders Israel. ----
    Russia has shared this interesting ambition for more than 65 years OVERTLY -- and supports any movement
    that might help-------including virulently fascist Baathism
     
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    This is revenge for supporting China's breakaway province of Taiwan, which wouldn't help us in the Korean and Vietnam Wars and isn't doing anything about North Korea now. The same result came out of the Neocons' support of the mooching tinhorn countries on Russia's boder and within its legitimate sphere of influence.
     
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    Why is China supporting Iran knowing very well that this will anger its main supporters in the US?
     

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