Iranian aid ship sales to Gaza today

[SFC Ollie]

let me guess,... It's the...

Future of the Iranian so-called humanitarian ship!!! Hope you don't cry too hard when it becomes reality! Israel will sink it. Iran will declare war and fire its ineffective missiles one or two might get through and then Israel launches a MAJOR and DEVASTATING AIR AND MISSILE STRIKE!!!

The Targets:
(1) Iran's Nuclear Facilities
(2) Iran's Tiny and Ancient Air Force
(3) Iran's Long Range Missile Sites
(4) Iran's Few Gas Refineries
(5) Iran's Tiny Navy

The Iranians might be playing right into Israel's hands!

Hopefully they also make a B line and hit P F Titmore's Parent's basement, they way P F Titmore won't bore us anymore with bullshit!

What's wrong with you sick fucks? Do you war mongering blood lusting cocksucking. bitches just fall out of broken sewer lines or are you manufactured? How fucked up do you have to be to cheer war like it's a fucking game? Sick fuck.

Let me get this straight. Iran has threatened Israel multiple times with annihilation (of course you will deny that because your a dishonest douche bag), Israel has in fact been attacked numerous times by enemies hell bent on annihilating her (although never directly by Iran), Iran supplies arms to Hezbollah and Hamas, in fact Iran has been caught red handed doing this, Iran is an enemy state to Israel and Iran is trying to break Israel's sovereignty. Furthermore, if an Israel civilian ship accidentally went into Iranian water, it would be sank, if boarded the crew would be arrested and either put to death or imprisoned in tortorious cells. Heck 3 American douche bag hikers who hate America and are very sympathic to Iran were arrested as spies and will be imprisoned a LONG time. The British Ship that accidentally went into Iranian waters was boarded and the crew members were detained.

This is also a nation openly seeking nuclear arms which would spark a nuclear arms race through the region.

Yet I am the crazy one for hoping Israel sends a STRONG message to Iran and that she might finally get a valid excuse to take out Iran's nuclear program (like she did to Iraq's) and criple Iran's paper dragon airforce, navy and missile system!

By the GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

So your response for being called out on your blood lust is to tell me to go.....masturbate?

Maybe you sick fucks really do just fall out of broken sewer lines.......

My guess is that "Go Fuck Yourself" was all that bentdick actually understood.

 

[CurveLight]

My guess is that "Go Fuck Yourself" was all that bentdick actually understood.

Why are you always obsessed about the position of my dick? Are you pissed viagra hasn't sent you a pill strong enough to trump your low self esteem or are you still irritated you aren't in the military anymore and you find it difficult to come up with excuses for you to be able to watch a bunch of guys getting dressed?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Read the one I cited.

I quoted five actual documents.

Your Wikipedia article was written by ????

Me.

It doesn't matter who wrote it, every single document you cited mentions borders, whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[Shogun]

I am not a Zionist, I'm not even Jewish. It just seems that most people who are rabidly anti-israel are also rabid anti-semites, scared that the JOOOOOOS!!! are coming to get them.

Zionism is not a religion or an ethnicity; it's a political ideology. Not all Zionists are Jewish, and not all Jews are Zionists.

Hyperbole about people who happen to have opposing political views being "rabid" does not add to any serious discussion.



Who has a “warring culture”?

“Resistance is futile” is a term made up for a television show ("Star Trek") that represents an evil totalitarian government’s threats to use overwhelming force to annihilate the heroic resistance fighters. So you made an interesting analogy there, but probably not the one you intended.

Assuming that the Palestinian struggle against occupation is “futile” would be quite an assumption - one might call it “Zio wishful thinking.” Throughout history, occupied peoples have managed to throw off their oppressors, despite what seemed to be a loaded deck against them.

In fact, in the modern age, when an indigenous population's resistance to foreign occupation turns into insurgency or full-scale war, the resistance usually wins - even when it takes decades. Framing it as “counter-terrorism” doesn’t make any difference.

The American South in the U.S. Civil War was not an example of an occupied people resisting their oppressors (although its society was based on the oppression and control of one ethnic group by another.)

A final settlement of the Israel/palestine question requires one side to give up some of its core demands. Either the Palestinians have to accept that the current borders are whats going to happen, or the Israelis have to leave or accept Arab governance under a single state solution, and these two are NOT going to happen.

Any other ending is not "peace" but mearly an interlude. As clauswitz pointed out peace is not the suspension of a given conflict but the resolution of said conflict.

What “current borders” are you talking about? Please be specific.

Apart from Palestinians accepting these unspecified "borders," you say that the only other choices for a solution would either require Israelis to leave, or to live in an “Arab” state, which you say "won't happen."

But you have completely ignored the standard interpretation of the “two-state solution,” and you ignore the alternative single-state solution which is neither an “Arab” nor a “Jewish” state, but instead is a nation that represents all of its citizens. Do you consider these to be impossible scenarios? If so, why?

The two state solution is rejected by the leaders of the very people you are defending. And yes, I consider the one state solution to be unworkable as if you go with it the jewish Israelis would be outnumbered, and the goverment put in place would be controlled by people with an axe to grind. Are you telling me a palestinian majority goverment would play nice?

A one state solution is impossible, and again, the two state solution is rejected by most leaders of palestinians, even if they give it lip service in public.

gosh.. I wonder whose side you'd have been on during the 60s when ******* had an axe to grind too...

give em equality and the next thing you know whites won't be the majority anymore!@!@!!@!@


OH NOEEEZZ!!

The One State solution is the ONLY solution. anything less validates the racism inherent of zionism.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

The war was not about land, it was fought with the intent to deny Israel the right to exist as a separate state, are you trying to clam they succeeded at that goal? The fact that Israel exists proves they lost, no matter how you spin it now.

How does Israel exist as a separate state without land?

Israel vs Palestine is only about land, unlike South African apartheid where part of the struggle involved cheap labor.

In that case, every country you mentioned must have lost land, because Israel did not exist as a separate state before that war, and it does now. Another spin fail.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

My source regarding Israeli borders was Ray McGovern's article on CounterPunch. Ray spent nearly 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

"...Israel is not an ally of the United States. Webster's (and international law) define ally as 'a state associated with another by treaty.'

"There is no mutual defense treaty between the US and Israel. (Washington has broached the idea to Israel from time to time, but Israel has said no thanks. Treaties, you see, require internationally recognized borders, and--for obvious reasons--Israeli leaders avoid that subject like the plague.")

You might consider the possibility that US support for Israel is due mainly to the profits earned from arms sales and (Arab) oil sales.

Do you have some sort of point here, or are you just blathering?

I personally support Israel, so I do not care if it is an ally of the US or not.

 

[SFC Ollie]

My guess is that "Go Fuck Yourself" was all that bentdick actually understood.

Why are you always obsessed about the position of my dick? Are you pissed viagra hasn't sent you a pill strong enough to trump your low self esteem or are you still irritated you aren't in the military anymore and you find it difficult to come up with excuses for you to be able to watch a bunch of guys getting dressed?

Maybe someday you will actually have something worthwhile to say. Hang in there, it could happen.

 

[georgephillip]

My source regarding Israeli borders was Ray McGovern's article on CounterPunch. Ray spent nearly 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

"...Israel is not an ally of the United States. Webster's (and international law) define ally as 'a state associated with another by treaty.'

"There is no mutual defense treaty between the US and Israel. (Washington has broached the idea to Israel from time to time, but Israel has said no thanks. Treaties, you see, require internationally recognized borders, and--for obvious reasons--Israeli leaders avoid that subject like the plague.")

You might consider the possibility that US support for Israel is due mainly to the profits earned from arms sales and (Arab) oil sales.

Do you have some sort of point here, or are you just blathering?

I personally support Israel, so I do not care if it is an ally of the US or not.

My point is that while War is a Racket it may not be eternally profitable for those who engage in it. The Israel you support is a vital force in today's war racket, and it depends on billions of US taxpayer dollars to accomplish its objectives.

Without a steady parade of Israeli crimes to distract them, Arab populations would revolt against the corruption between their governments and western corporations. Instead their anger is directed against the Jews, and the rich Arabs, Jews, and Americans celebrate all the way to Wall Street.

I would also like to support Israel, but not until she stops serving those who profit most from the War Racket.

 

[SFC Ollie]

So where is this ship now anyway?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Read the one I cited.

I quoted five actual documents.

Your Wikipedia article was written by ????

Me.

It doesn't matter who wrote it, every single document you cited mentions borders, whether you want to admit it or not.

Yes they did. The borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine.

Israel was not mentioned.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I quoted five actual documents.

Your Wikipedia article was written by ????

Me.

It doesn't matter who wrote it, every single document you cited mentions borders, whether you want to admit it or not.

Yes they did. The borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine.

Israel was not mentioned.

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that Israel signed a bunch of treaties and armistice agreements defining their borders, but they are not valid because Israel changed its name, despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

I think you seriously need professional help.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

My source regarding Israeli borders was Ray McGovern's article on CounterPunch. Ray spent nearly 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

"...Israel is not an ally of the United States. Webster's (and international law) define ally as 'a state associated with another by treaty.'

"There is no mutual defense treaty between the US and Israel. (Washington has broached the idea to Israel from time to time, but Israel has said no thanks. Treaties, you see, require internationally recognized borders, and--for obvious reasons--Israeli leaders avoid that subject like the plague.")

You might consider the possibility that US support for Israel is due mainly to the profits earned from arms sales and (Arab) oil sales.

Do you have some sort of point here, or are you just blathering?

I personally support Israel, so I do not care if it is an ally of the US or not.

My point is that while War is a Racket it may not be eternally profitable for those who engage in it. The Israel you support is a vital force in today's war racket, and it depends on billions of US taxpayer dollars to accomplish its objectives.

Without a steady parade of Israeli crimes to distract them, Arab populations would revolt against the corruption between their governments and western corporations. Instead their anger is directed against the Jews, and the rich Arabs, Jews, and Americans celebrate all the way to Wall Street.

I would also like to support Israel, but not until she stops serving those who profit most from the War Racket.

You are right in some respects. My brother-in-law, besides owning some real estate, makes his living as a lobbyist for Israel.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

My point is that while War is a Racket it may not be eternally profitable for those who engage in it. The Israel you support is a vital force in today's war racket, and it depends on billions of US taxpayer dollars to accomplish its objectives.

Without a steady parade of Israeli crimes to distract them, Arab populations would revolt against the corruption between their governments and western corporations. Instead their anger is directed against the Jews, and the rich Arabs, Jews, and Americans celebrate all the way to Wall Street.

I would also like to support Israel, but not until she stops serving those who profit most from the War Racket.

Are you concerned because the US keep lending money to Israel, when Israel is the only debtor nation to the US that has never defaulted on a loan, and has always paid the loans back in full and on time? Or is it that Israel has turned into one of the largest trading partners with the US by purchasing arms that it uses for self defense? Or is the fact that everyone has more money than you, and you resent them for not giving you your fair share?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So where is this ship now anyway?

It apparently left Iran unescorted on Saturday, which means it will not get near the Suez Canal for weeks. We won't hear anything about it until late July, unless it gets captured by Somali pirates. That is just a diverting enough thought that I hope they do find it.

 

[georgephillip]

The war was not about land, it was fought with the intent to deny Israel the right to exist as a separate state, are you trying to clam they succeeded at that goal? The fact that Israel exists proves they lost, no matter how you spin it now.

How does Israel exist as a separate state without land?

Israel vs Palestine is only about land, unlike South African apartheid where part of the struggle involved cheap labor.

In that case, every country you mentioned must have lost land, because Israel did not exist as a separate state before that war, and it does now. Another spin fail.

All Israel comes from Palestine.

The British ruled Palestine from the end of WWI until the UN Partition recommendation of 1947.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

All Israel comes from Palestine.

The British ruled Palestine from the end of WWI until the UN Partition recommendation of 1947.

Repeating more facts everyone already knows.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Me.

It doesn't matter who wrote it, every single document you cited mentions borders, whether you want to admit it or not.

Yes they did. The borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine.

Israel was not mentioned.

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that Israel signed a bunch of treaties and armistice agreements defining their borders, but they are not valid because Israel changed its name, despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

I think you seriously need professional help.

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that Israel signed a bunch of treaties and armistice agreements defining their borders,

I never said that. Israel has no borders.

but they are not valid because Israel changed its name,

Israel changed its name??? I never said anything like that. When did that happen?

despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

The five agreements I posted recognize Palestine's defined, recognized, and undisputed borders. No borders for Israel are mentioned because Israel has no borders. Israel is a military occupation of Palestine.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yes they did. The borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine.

Israel was not mentioned.

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that Israel signed a bunch of treaties and armistice agreements defining their borders, but they are not valid because Israel changed its name, despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

I think you seriously need professional help.

I never said that. Israel has no borders.

but they are not valid because Israel changed its name,

Israel changed its name??? I never said anything like that. When did that happen?

despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

The five agreements I posted recognize Palestine's defined, recognized, and undisputed borders. No borders for Israel are mentioned because Israel has no borders. Israel is a military occupation of Palestine.

When did Palestine become a country? When did they first have their own government?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes they did. The borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine.

Israel was not mentioned.

Let me get this straight, you are claiming that Israel signed a bunch of treaties and armistice agreements defining their borders, but they are not valid because Israel changed its name, despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

I think you seriously need professional help.

I never said that. Israel has no borders.

but they are not valid because Israel changed its name,

Israel changed its name??? I never said anything like that. When did that happen?

despite the fact that every country they have a treaty or armistice agreement with recognizes those borders as borders with the nation of Israel.

The five agreements I posted recognize Palestine's defined, recognized, and undisputed borders. No borders for Israel are mentioned because Israel has no borders. Israel is a military occupation of Palestine.

You can keep repeating that lie all you want, does not make it true nor does it help with your credibility.

Israel is a Sovereign Nation and has been since 1948. It is duly recognized by the UN and most Countries in the world. As such it has legal binding borders established and maintained by the State of Israel and recognized by the UN and almost all the Nations of the world.

You can stomp your little foot and shake your little head all you want, while pouting and claiming otherwise. That too does not make it true nor valid. Palestine on the other hand does not exist. It is neither a Country or a free State. Gaza and the West Bank are not Countries. Both were controlled by Arab Countries that washed their hands of them because of the murderous psychos that live there.

Isn't it telling that in EVERY Country where these refugees have lived the host Nation has resorted to armed force to push them out after bloody attempts by these refugees to take over? Lebanon is the only exception and only because they had a bloody civil war and no strong central Government to do the pushing.

 

[Jack Fate]

Muslim countries all over the place and the muslims will murder for a sliver of land just to keep it from the Jews.

It's simply amazing how idiotic these murdering cultists are.