Iranian aid ship sales to Gaza today

[P F Tinmore]

It is your opinion that Israel is in violation of your intepretations of those things. Show me actual convictions that arent politically motivated and then we can talk.

And Israel is already being bombarded militarily. Its called rockets. It isnt Israel's fault that Hamas is not as effective as you want them to be. (Well actually it is, the whole reason for the blockade) Your screed doesnt answer my question. Why doesnt Hamas just admit it lost and try to rebuild for its people's sake?

Giving up can result in a better life. Look at the WWII "losers" and see what shape they are in now.

So called terrorist attacks on Israel are constantly reported. Surely the rockets fired on Sderot were the main excuse for the invasion of Gaza. However, it is never reported that Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd. Israel attacked Najd before the war of 1948 driving the indigenous population out of their homes and off their land. Most of those driven out became refugees in Gaza. This was an act of aggression against this farm community.

International law forbids the acquisition of land in acts of aggression. With this in mind, Israel cannot legally claim possession of this land. Further evidence of this is the fact that there is no border between Gaza and Sderot. Israel has built a cage around Gaza, but there is no border there. Also, with this in mind, Hamas and other Palestinian resistance groups have not attacked anyone outside of Palestine. The Palestinians have every legal right to resist this occupation of their land.

We might as well end the discussion if you keep going back to 1948. Whats done is done. The Israelis aren't leaving, and they would be suicdial to accept a palestinian majority one state solution. The Arabs attacked in 1948, lost and have been whining ever since. You forget about all those other armies that bullied their way in. And your last point about no attacks outside of "Palestine is retarted" What about Munich?????

If gazans truly want peace they can stop fighting and build on what land they have. Or they can keep fighting an unwinnable war.

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

 

[Shai]

So called terrorist attacks on Israel are constantly reported. Surely the rockets fired on Sderot were the main excuse for the invasion of Gaza. However, it is never reported that Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd. Israel attacked Najd before the war of 1948 driving the indigenous population out of their homes and off their land. Most of those driven out became refugees in Gaza. This was an act of aggression against this farm community.

International law forbids the acquisition of land in acts of aggression. With this in mind, Israel cannot legally claim possession of this land. Further evidence of this is the fact that there is no border between Gaza and Sderot. Israel has built a cage around Gaza, but there is no border there. Also, with this in mind, Hamas and other Palestinian resistance groups have not attacked anyone outside of Palestine. The Palestinians have every legal right to resist this occupation of their land.

We might as well end the discussion if you keep going back to 1948. Whats done is done. The Israelis aren't leaving, and they would be suicdial to accept a palestinian majority one state solution. The Arabs attacked in 1948, lost and have been whining ever since. You forget about all those other armies that bullied their way in. And your last point about no attacks outside of "Palestine is retarted" What about Munich?????

If gazans truly want peace they can stop fighting and build on what land they have. Or they can keep fighting an unwinnable war.

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

Syria lost the Golan, Egypt lost Sinai (that was giving back to her when she decided to sign peace agreement with Israel), jordan lost some land in the West Bank erea (which like Egypt when she sigh peace agreement with Israel she received compensation for that)

 

[P F Tinmore]

We might as well end the discussion if you keep going back to 1948. Whats done is done. The Israelis aren't leaving, and they would be suicdial to accept a palestinian majority one state solution. The Arabs attacked in 1948, lost and have been whining ever since. You forget about all those other armies that bullied their way in. And your last point about no attacks outside of "Palestine is retarted" What about Munich?????

If gazans truly want peace they can stop fighting and build on what land they have. Or they can keep fighting an unwinnable war.

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

Syria lost the Golan, Egypt lost Sinai (that was giving back to her when she decided to sign peace agreement with Israel), jordan lost some land in the West Bank erea (which like Egypt when she sigh peace agreement with Israel she received compensation for that)

I think the topic was the 1948 war. There was no surrender and none of the five countries in the war with Israel lost any land. The war was called to an end by UN resolution. The armistice agreements with these countries confirmed that the borders between Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine remained unchanged since they were defined in 1922.

 

[martybegan]

So called terrorist attacks on Israel are constantly reported. Surely the rockets fired on Sderot were the main excuse for the invasion of Gaza. However, it is never reported that Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd. Israel attacked Najd before the war of 1948 driving the indigenous population out of their homes and off their land. Most of those driven out became refugees in Gaza. This was an act of aggression against this farm community.

International law forbids the acquisition of land in acts of aggression. With this in mind, Israel cannot legally claim possession of this land. Further evidence of this is the fact that there is no border between Gaza and Sderot. Israel has built a cage around Gaza, but there is no border there. Also, with this in mind, Hamas and other Palestinian resistance groups have not attacked anyone outside of Palestine. The Palestinians have every legal right to resist this occupation of their land.

We might as well end the discussion if you keep going back to 1948. Whats done is done. The Israelis aren't leaving, and they would be suicdial to accept a palestinian majority one state solution. The Arabs attacked in 1948, lost and have been whining ever since. You forget about all those other armies that bullied their way in. And your last point about no attacks outside of "Palestine is retarted" What about Munich?????

If gazans truly want peace they can stop fighting and build on what land they have. Or they can keep fighting an unwinnable war.

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

Arabs include the palestinians, and since Israel held the field, I would call that "win" in a Clauswitzian sense.

 

[martybegan]

"A framework for settling the Arab-Israeli conflict has existed since 1976, when the regional Arab States introduced a Security Council Resolution calling for a two state settlement on the international border, including all the security guarantees of UN Resolution 242, adopted after the June War in 1967.

"The essential principles are supported by virtually the entire world, including the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran) and relevant non-state actors, including Hamas.

"But the US and Israel have led the rejection of such a settlement for three decades, with one crucial and highly informative exception.

"In President Bill Clinton's last month in office, January 2001, he initiated Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in Taba, Egypt, that almost reached an agreement, participants announced, before Israel terminated the negotiations."

The Real Threat

Isnt the current Gaza border the 1967 line? If this is to be considered a test case then the Gazans are failing miserably. They elected a government that is dedicated not to the 2 state 1967 solution but the end of Israel as a state. Until someone with more reason is in power I don't see what Israel gains from cooperating.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"A framework for settling the Arab-Israeli conflict has existed since 1976, when the regional Arab States introduced a Security Council Resolution calling for a two state settlement on the international border, including all the security guarantees of UN Resolution 242, adopted after the June War in 1967.

"The essential principles are supported by virtually the entire world, including the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran) and relevant non-state actors, including Hamas.

"But the US and Israel have led the rejection of such a settlement for three decades, with one crucial and highly informative exception.

"In President Bill Clinton's last month in office, January 2001, he initiated Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in Taba, Egypt, that almost reached an agreement, participants announced, before Israel terminated the negotiations."

The Real Threat

Isnt the current Gaza border the 1967 line? If this is to be considered a test case then the Gazans are failing miserably. They elected a government that is dedicated not to the 2 state 1967 solution but the end of Israel as a state. Until someone with more reason is in power I don't see what Israel gains from cooperating.

Yes, the Gazans elected Hamas. They also kept on firing missiles into Israel. Only 15 Israelis died? How about the trauma of having missiles fall on your town every day, while you're trying to go about your daily routines? I have heard Israelis being interviewed on the radio saying that they were shopping, working or in school, when they would hear the sirens, and have to go into their bunkers for at least an hour. So yes, only 15 Israelis died and there was a lot of property damage--but what country would accept this kind of life?

 

[georgephillip]

"A framework for settling the Arab-Israeli conflict has existed since 1976, when the regional Arab States introduced a Security Council Resolution calling for a two state settlement on the international border, including all the security guarantees of UN Resolution 242, adopted after the June War in 1967.

"The essential principles are supported by virtually the entire world, including the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran) and relevant non-state actors, including Hamas.

"But the US and Israel have led the rejection of such a settlement for three decades, with one crucial and highly informative exception.

"In President Bill Clinton's last month in office, January 2001, he initiated Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in Taba, Egypt, that almost reached an agreement, participants announced, before Israel terminated the negotiations."

The Real Threat

Isnt the current Gaza border the 1967 line? If this is to be considered a test case then the Gazans are failing miserably. They elected a government that is dedicated not to the 2 state 1967 solution but the end of Israel as a state. Until someone with more reason is in power I don't see what Israel gains from cooperating.

Israel refuses to declare any borders.

They have constructed a cage around Gaza, but there are no borders because that would preclude further Israeli aggression.

 

[P F Tinmore]

We might as well end the discussion if you keep going back to 1948. Whats done is done. The Israelis aren't leaving, and they would be suicdial to accept a palestinian majority one state solution. The Arabs attacked in 1948, lost and have been whining ever since. You forget about all those other armies that bullied their way in. And your last point about no attacks outside of "Palestine is retarted" What about Munich?????

If gazans truly want peace they can stop fighting and build on what land they have. Or they can keep fighting an unwinnable war.

You say the Arabs lost? The war was called to an end by UN resolution. Lebanon lost no land. Syria lost no land, Jordan lost no land. Egypt lost no land. What did they lose?

Arabs include the palestinians, and since Israel held the field, I would call that "win" in a Clauswitzian sense.

The 1948 war was fought in Palestine but it was between Israel and five Arab states: Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq (under the command of Jordan) and Egypt. There were four armistice agreements in 1948 ending that war: Lebanese/Israeli, Syrian/Israeli, Jordanian/Israeli, and Egyptian/Israeli. Palestine was a separate issue.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"A framework for settling the Arab-Israeli conflict has existed since 1976, when the regional Arab States introduced a Security Council Resolution calling for a two state settlement on the international border, including all the security guarantees of UN Resolution 242, adopted after the June War in 1967.

"The essential principles are supported by virtually the entire world, including the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic States (including Iran) and relevant non-state actors, including Hamas.

"But the US and Israel have led the rejection of such a settlement for three decades, with one crucial and highly informative exception.

"In President Bill Clinton's last month in office, January 2001, he initiated Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in Taba, Egypt, that almost reached an agreement, participants announced, before Israel terminated the negotiations."

The Real Threat

Isnt the current Gaza border the 1967 line? If this is to be considered a test case then the Gazans are failing miserably. They elected a government that is dedicated not to the 2 state 1967 solution but the end of Israel as a state. Until someone with more reason is in power I don't see what Israel gains from cooperating.

The 1967 line(or '67 borders, or 1949 armistice line, or Green Line) was established by the 1949 armistice agreement. It was to define areas of occupation. The 1949 armistice agreements specifically stated that the armistice line was NOT to be national or political borders. This line did not change the borders of Palestine that were defined in 1922. Israel has never had any borders and has none now. You cannot point to any place in Palestine and say this is in Israel.

The village of Najd (now the Israeli settlement of Sderot) that I mentioned above is inside Palestine's borders but not inside any Israeli border.

 

[al Haq]

Out of the number of palestinians killed how many were actually civillians and how many were militants?

Try to read more carefully. I already gave you stats:

About 1400 Palestinians were killed during Cast Lead, of which more than 3/4 were civilians, and nearly one fourth of them children. 13 Israelis were killed, including 10 soldiers and 3 civilians.

Next...

Nothing better than a government whos fighters use thier own population as shields and then whine when they get hit by return fire.

The Goldstone Report and Amnesty International "found no evidence Palestinian fighters directed civilians to shield military objectives from attacks, forced them to stay in buildings used by militants, or prevented them from leaving commandeered buildings."

However, both documented cases where the Israeli army forced Palestinians to serve as human shields for the IDF.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated areas in the world - there are more than 4100 people jammed into each square kilometer.

Israel’s PR brigade bragged about dropping leaflets and making telephone calls to civilians supposedly warning them to leave their homes to avoid imminent air strikes - but where were they to go?

There was no place in Gaza safe from Israel's assault. And except in a very few isolated cases, Israel refused to allow civilians to leave the war zone - yet another violation of the Geneva Convention.

The only reason Israeli casualties arent higher isnt due to lack of trying, but lack of technology and expertise. Give Hamas real weapons and the casualty rates would be higher.

If Israel would follow the sames rules Hamas does then every rocket or mortar would be replied to with a 155 mm shell fired randomly into the strip. They dont do that.

Actually, if Israel were forced to follow the same rules as Hamas, then Israel would have its population herded into a jam-packed concentration camp under the total control of a hostile occupation force; be refused the right to flee the war zone; possess no tanks, no air force, and no advanced military equipment; and instead be forced to fight with small arms, rocks and home-made weapons such as bottle rockets fashioned out of scrap metal.

In fact, Israel used hundreds of tons of bombs, missiles, heavy artillery and tank shells on Gaza during its 23-day assault in 2009-2010, including white phosphorus dropped in heavily populated civilian areas.

In fact, the IDF repeatedly claimed it didn’t use this weapon, saying “We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus.”

However, The Times of London confirmed it on January 5, 2009. Days after the practice was exposed in Western media, the IDF did a 180-degree turn and admitted what it had tried to deny. As Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Harel said, “Since this was a big buzz in the media, we issued an order 7 Jan ‘09 to stop using white phosphorus.”

(Instead, the IDF switched to “smoke shells,” which still contain felt soaked in phosphorus.)

Linkie:
Israel backs down over white phosphorus - Times Online

Israel’s ham-handed, disproportionate responses are what have pushed the civilian casualties into the strastosphere. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has publicly admitted this, saying: “If there is shooting at the residents of the south, then there will be a harsh Israeli response that will be disproportionate.”

Linkie:
Israel vows "disproportionate" response to rockets | Reuters

Just admit you want every jew driven into the sea. It will make you more honest.

Just admit you’re the center section of a Zio “Human Centipede.”

 

[martybegan]

Out of the number of palestinians killed how many were actually civillians and how many were militants?

Try to read more carefully. I already gave you stats:

About 1400 Palestinians were killed during Cast Lead, of which more than 3/4 were civilians, and nearly one fourth of them children. 13 Israelis were killed, including 10 soldiers and 3 civilians.

Next...



The Goldstone Report and Amnesty International "found no evidence Palestinian fighters directed civilians to shield military objectives from attacks, forced them to stay in buildings used by militants, or prevented them from leaving commandeered buildings."

However, both documented cases where the Israeli army forced Palestinians to serve as human shields for the IDF.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated areas in the world - there are more than 4100 people jammed into each square kilometer.

Israel’s PR brigade bragged about dropping leaflets and making telephone calls to civilians supposedly warning them to leave their homes to avoid imminent air strikes - but where were they to go?

There was no place in Gaza safe from Israel's assault. And except in a very few isolated cases, Israel refused to allow civilians to leave the war zone - yet another violation of the Geneva Convention.

The only reason Israeli casualties arent higher isnt due to lack of trying, but lack of technology and expertise. Give Hamas real weapons and the casualty rates would be higher.

If Israel would follow the sames rules Hamas does then every rocket or mortar would be replied to with a 155 mm shell fired randomly into the strip. They dont do that.

Actually, if Israel were forced to follow the same rules as Hamas, then Israel would have its population herded into a jam-packed concentration camp under the total control of a hostile occupation force; be refused the right to flee the war zone; possess no tanks, no air force, and no advanced military equipment; and instead be forced to fight with small arms, rocks and home-made weapons such as bottle rockets fashioned out of scrap metal.

In fact, Israel used hundreds of tons of bombs, missiles, heavy artillery and tank shells on Gaza during its 23-day assault in 2009-2010, including white phosphorus dropped in heavily populated civilian areas.

In fact, the IDF repeatedly claimed it didn’t use this weapon, saying “We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus.”

However, The Times of London confirmed it on January 5, 2009. Days after the practice was exposed in Western media, the IDF did a 180-degree turn and admitted what it had tried to deny. As Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Harel said, “Since this was a big buzz in the media, we issued an order 7 Jan ‘09 to stop using white phosphorus.”

(Instead, the IDF switched to “smoke shells,” which still contain felt soaked in phosphorus.)

Linkie:
Israel backs down over white phosphorus - Times Online

Israel’s ham-handed, disproportionate responses are what have pushed the civilian casualties into the strastosphere. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has publicly admitted this, saying: “If there is shooting at the residents of the south, then there will be a harsh Israeli response that will be disproportionate.”

Linkie:
Israel vows "disproportionate" response to rockets | Reuters

Just admit you want every jew driven into the sea. It will make you more honest.

Just admit you’re the center section of a Zio “Human Centipede.”

I doubt the 3/4 were truly civillians. Again when you dont wear a uniform it makes it easy
to take the gun away from the body and say it was a "helpless civillain"

Both reports quoted are notoriously anti-Israel. Unacceptable sources.

Using your population figures, if Israel truly did not care about civilian casualties there would be far more dead civilians.

If the Gazans are so overmatched, why dont they just surrender. I keep asking this question and no one answers it.

 

[al Haq]

I doubt the 3/4 were truly civillians. Again when you dont wear a uniform it makes it easy
to take the gun away from the body and say it was a "helpless civillain"

This is more Zio double-speak. The Israeli government has stated on repeated occasions that Hamas do wear uniforms:

“You can see on television that most of those who died during the attack were wearing Hamas uniforms, either black or other uniforms of Hamas.”

- Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Livni on December 28, 2008 Israeli Knesset.

Linkie:
FM Livni briefing in Sderot - Opening remarks 28-Dec-2008

“Since this morning, the IDF attacked dozens of targets affiliated with the Hamas terror organization in the Gaza Strip. The targets included command centers, training camps, various Hamas installations, rocket manufacturing facilities and storage warehouses. The vast majority of the casualties are terror operatives, most of whom were wearing uniform and working on behalf of terror organizations.”

- Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Newsletter: IDF Operation in Gaza: Cast Lead

Linkie:
Operation Cast Lead updates

Both reports quoted are notoriously anti-Israel. Unacceptable sources.

As usual, Zionists don't generally even try to disprove critical reports, but instead claim that anyone who disagrees with them is anti-Israel/anti-Semitic.

Using your population figures, if Israel truly did not care about civilian casualties there would be far more dead civilians.

Israel is constantly testing the waters to see how many Arab civilians it may slaughter before the international community will pressure it to stop. Currently, the answer seems to be "1500 in a three-week period is acceptable, but after that you have to back off."

If the Gazans are so overmatched, why dont they just surrender. I keep asking this question and no one answers it.

Because it's such an inane question.

 

[martybegan]

I doubt the 3/4 were truly civillians. Again when you dont wear a uniform it makes it easy
to take the gun away from the body and say it was a "helpless civillain"

This is more Zio double-speak. The Israeli government has stated on repeated occasions that Hamas do wear uniforms:

“You can see on television that most of those who died during the attack were wearing Hamas uniforms, either black or other uniforms of Hamas.”

- Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Livni on December 28, 2008 Israeli Knesset.

Linkie:
FM Livni briefing in Sderot - Opening remarks 28-Dec-2008



Linkie:
Operation Cast Lead updates



As usual, Zionists don't generally even try to disprove critical reports, but instead claim that anyone who disagrees with them is anti-Israel/anti-Semitic.

Using your population figures, if Israel truly did not care about civilian casualties there would be far more dead civilians.

Israel is constantly testing the waters to see how many Arab civilians it may slaughter before the international community will pressure it to stop. Currently, the answer seems to be "1500 in a three-week period is acceptable, but after that you have to back off."

If the Gazans are so overmatched, why dont they just surrender. I keep asking this question and no one answers it.

Because it's such an inane question.

I am not a Zionist, I'm not even Jewish. It just seems that most people who are rabidly anti-israel are also rabid anti-semites, scared that the JOOOOOOS!!! are coming to get them.

And the surrender question is not inane. Every warring culture has gotten to the point that further resistance is futile. Even our own southerners turned in the towel once they realized the war was unwinnable.

A final settlement of the Israel/palestine question requires one side to give up some of its core demands. Either the Palestinians have to accept that the current borders are whats going to happen, or the Israelis have to leave or accept Arab governance under a single state solution, and these two are NOT going to happen.

Any other ending is not "peace" but mearly an interlude. As clauswitz pointed out peace is not the suspension of a given conflict but the resolution of said conflict.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I doubt the 3/4 were truly civillians. Again when you dont wear a uniform it makes it easy
to take the gun away from the body and say it was a "helpless civillain"

This is more Zio double-speak. The Israeli government has stated on repeated occasions that Hamas do wear uniforms:


Linkie:
FM Livni briefing in Sderot - Opening remarks 28-Dec-2008



Linkie:
Operation Cast Lead updates



As usual, Zionists don't generally even try to disprove critical reports, but instead claim that anyone who disagrees with them is anti-Israel/anti-Semitic.



Israel is constantly testing the waters to see how many Arab civilians it may slaughter before the international community will pressure it to stop. Currently, the answer seems to be "1500 in a three-week period is acceptable, but after that you have to back off."

If the Gazans are so overmatched, why dont they just surrender. I keep asking this question and no one answers it.

Because it's such an inane question.

I am not a Zionist, I'm not even Jewish. It just seems that most people who are rabidly anti-israel are also rabid anti-semites, scared that the JOOOOOOS!!! are coming to get them.

And the surrender question is not inane. Every warring culture has gotten to the point that further resistance is futile. Even our own southerners turned in the towel once they realized the war was unwinnable.

A final settlement of the Israel/palestine question requires one side to give up some of its core demands. Either the Palestinians have to accept that the current borders are whats going to happen, or the Israelis have to leave or accept Arab governance under a single state solution, and these two are NOT going to happen.

Any other ending is not "peace" but mearly an interlude. As clauswitz pointed out peace is not the suspension of a given conflict but the resolution of said conflict.

Palestinians have the legal and moral high ground in this conflict. The tides are turning away from Israel and toward Palestine. After over 60 years of conflict I don't see the Palestinians surrendering now that things are looking up.

 

[GHook93]

Don't worry hypocritical international community, Israel won't board this ship from an enemy nation that preaches Israel's destruction on a regular basis!

I just wish P F Titmore would be on board this ship when the torpedoes hit it!

 

[GHook93]

Someone know if there any Iranian diplomats on that ship? Of course we going stop this ship.
My only hope is that unlike previous occasions were the people were deported back to their countries, those pepole will be held as a prisoners under the same conditions in which Gilad Shalit is being held by them.

This ship is not an Iranian government ship. It is from civilian charities.

LOL, Israeli citizens aren't even about to make telephone calls to relatives in Iran. A visit by an Israel civilian to Iran for whatever reason would result in the Israeli's death or long and tortorous prison term (note: The 3 American Leftist shit-holes imprisoned in Iran for no valid reason).

However, in your twisted mind, Israel should allow Iranian supposed "civilians" in and better yet without even inspecting them. I have to ask ARE YOU RETARDED!

 

[CurveLight]

TEHRAN, (PIC)-- Muhamad Ali Nurani, Deputy Secretary General of the Society to Defend Palestinian People, said that an Iranian aid ship will be setting sail Friday to the besieged Gaza Strip.

The ship will carry as well as humanitarian aid a number of MPs, doctors, students and sports-persons.

He added that the aid carried on the ship includes food, medical equipment and construction materials.

Iranian aid ship sales to Gaza today

This could be dangerous. If they use the Suez they can hug egyptian territorial waters until right before Gaza. The only other option is equally tough, that in stopping them before they hit the Suez.

This could get interesting.

What makes you think Egypt will have a problem with Israel, their partner in blockading Gaza, stopping an Iranian ship entering their waters without permission?

Egypt lifted their blockade.

 

[Shai]

This could be dangerous. If they use the Suez they can hug egyptian territorial waters until right before Gaza. The only other option is equally tough, that in stopping them before they hit the Suez.

This could get interesting.

What makes you think Egypt will have a problem with Israel, their partner in blockading Gaza, stopping an Iranian ship entering their waters without permission?

Egypt lifted their blockade.

Again there is a fundamental difference between what was said and portrayed in the media to what happen in the real life.


Not only of Israel: Egypt kept available at the Rafah crossing

Not all - so fast: Egypt, Gaza activists prevented the entry of
Hundreds of demonstrators were waiting night and day in front of the Rafah crossing and shouted "Arab Palestine, break the siege" - but were forced to return to Cairo. The authorities also prevented the entry of trucks carrying humanitarian aid, but MPs delegation allowed Algerians to meet with Hamas officials. Mashaal: Red Cross will not visit Shalit


Although Egypt announced last week an official statement that "we break the siege on the Gaza Strip and can not evade responsibility occupier" - but it seems that the authorities really are in no hurry to break the dam at the Rafah crossing. Egypt over the weekend prevented from entering the Gaza Strip of hundreds of activists who sought to move the Palestinian side.
According to an Egyptian security source, the Egyptian protesters even tried to enter Gaza on Friday, but were denied. They spent the night with the transition, continued to demand to change the evil decree, and continued Abmhatam the Sabbath.
Witnesses reported that hundreds of activists were carrying Palestinian flags and called "Palestine is Arab", "open the border" and removed the blockade. " Apparently, they gave up, and by early evening most of them packed up and made their way back to Cairo.
Director of the opposition in Egypt long campaign against the Egyptian blockade of the Gaza Strip, President Mubarak that explains the need to comply with the 2005 crossings agreement, signed with the Palestinian Authority and Hamas. Government opponents protested the excavation of the wall, especially the steel sub - ground, which should make it harder for digging smuggling tunnels in the Rafah border.

 

[Jos]

let me guess,... It's the USS LIBERTY
Hi, you have received -41 reputation points from GHook93.
Reputation was given for this post.

 

[Coyote]

TEHRAN, (PIC)-- Muhamad Ali Nurani, Deputy Secretary General of the Society to Defend Palestinian People, said that an Iranian aid ship will be setting sail Friday to the besieged Gaza Strip.

The ship will carry as well as humanitarian aid a number of MPs, doctors, students and sports-persons.

He added that the aid carried on the ship includes food, medical equipment and construction materials.

Iranian aid ship sales to Gaza today

Bad idea.

An aid ship sale is a bad idea? Mo chara! Maybe we can buy some cheap chocolate and pick up a few bottles of Chardonnay. Or do we have to buy the whole boat? I'm confused about this 'sale'.

Hey...will there be a bidding war?