Iran to put warships off US Atlantic coast...

"Millions for defense but not one cent for welfare!"
I'm sure you know the history of that statement, "counselor" <snort>.

Seems you don't.

Millions for defense. But not one cent for tribute. This was the American reaction to whom

American delegate Charles Pinckney actually responded, "No, no, not a sixpence, sir!" The quote, "Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute," was actually made by Robert Goodloe Harper as a toast at a dinner shortly after the American delegation returned home. The next day a newspaper printed the toast from the night before and soon people began using it as a rallying cry.

Actually you seem not to be able to access Google, even though you ought to know this from school. Oh yeah, you didnt finish school after 4th grade. that explains a lot.

Well to be honest..I initially thought it had something to do with the Barbary Wars. You know, when the conservatives back then didn't want to buy warships to fight pirates? You know, when the conservatives back then wanted to do the cheap thing..and pay tribute?

But alas, I was wrong too.

:lol:
 
"Like the arrogant powers that are present near our marine borders, we will also have a powerful presence close to American marine borders," the head of the Navy, Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari said, according to the official IRNA news agency.

A powerful presence? That is what they call a powerful presence? They must still live in the dark ages and not realize what the US fleet actually looks like?


If they used every ship and sub in their fleet what would the total be? They have just over 200 total including their subs...they only have 13 submarines total, they mostly have patrol boats meant for coastal duties, they have about 100 of them....and about 100 missle boats...they have 5 frigates, 3 Corvettes, and 24 FAC's...they have nothing basically...we have on the other hand...286 ships, 11 Aircraft carriers, 9 amphibeous assault ships, 8 amphibious landing ships, 22 Cruisers, 60 destroyers, 27 frigates, and 75 subs, if they want to show a threatening presence they need to spend a hell of a lot of money to do so....our ship crews would laugh their tails off.
The declaration comes just weeks after Turkey said it would host a NATO early warning radar system which will help spot missile threats from outside Europe, including potentially from Iran. The decision has angered Tehran which had enjoyed close relations with Ankara.
NATO would blow them out of the water if they tried to sink a cruise ship.....looks like Turkey would call an Article 5 before they US had a chance....NATO's fleet is likely bigger than ours is.

We are part of NATO, so technically ours is included.

We also have Super Carriers. I don't think Iran even knows what those ARE.

true, but I don't think they were actually considering that NATO might get puffy about it..
 
I think they should build bases in Toronto ! Or Deeeeetroyt ! Why not ? You assholes do it.

we are talking military stuff here Hairball.....remember you ran to your 3rd world hole in the wall because of your fear of this stuff......are you secure in some cave in the Jungle?.....you sure no one knows your typing this stuff?.....maybe you should go pick up some shit, rents due for your shack in about 4 days.....
 
The sharks are gonna have a field day. The ocean biologists will be happy. The highest shark concentrations , worldwide, 1942-1945, were to be found in the South Pacific. Hmmm? wonder why? The highest shark concentrations in the Atlantic Ocean during the Irish Potato Famine were to be found alongside the shipping routes from Dublin and Belfast to Boston and New York.
How does learning to ride a camel help teach you to swim?
 
They could claim the cruise ship tried to ram them late at night while they were on the surface .... No one ever said the Iranians were smart

Yeah. They could use the same excuse that American Sub Commander used when they plowed into a boat full of school kids during a power dive off the coast of Japan.

Of course..little hard to explain why a Texas Oil Man was driving..:eusa_shhh:

You're a fucking idiot.

Scott was a career Naval officer and well respected and admired by his crew. You're not fit to wash his skivvies nor massage his balls with a warm washcloth, asswipe.

Waddle Scott | Bio of Waddle Scott | AEI Speakers Bureau
 
They could claim the cruise ship tried to ram them late at night while they were on the surface .... No one ever said the Iranians were smart

Yeah. They could use the same excuse that American Sub Commander used when they plowed into a boat full of school kids during a power dive off the coast of Japan.

Of course..little hard to explain why a Texas Oil Man was driving..:eusa_shhh:

You're a fucking idiot.

Scott was a career Naval officer and well respected and admired by his crew. You're not fit to wash his skivvies nor massage his balls with a warm washcloth, asswipe.

Waddle Scott | Bio of Waddle Scott | AEI Speakers Bureau

Scott is an incredible man who ended up in a bad circumstance and took responsibility like a real man. He deserves respect.
 
That is quite a long supply line for a bunch of camel drivers. Accidents happen in the dark you have to be real careful. One minute your here and the next gone.
 
Yeah. That's what the founding fathers want...citizens who cheer "bring it on, bitches!" and who smile at the prospect of war.
im pretty sure if back in those days a Country that was considered hostile moved a war ship off our shores.....they would have reacted in some manner....

Like all the Brits in Canada? We got rid of all them, right?

they ran to another Country did they not?.....talk to Douger,he can tell you about running to another country when your scared.....
 
You know we paid a million dollar bribe to get the two hikers back and they get here and start acting tough. They didn't have enough sense to stay away in the first place. Maybe the nave could have brought them back and saved us a plane trip.
 
Can they send ships through Suez? I think that is against the rules. They would have to go around Africa to get here, and the last place they could refuel, refurbish would be..... Where?

If they can go through Suez, that means the last refueling/watering stop would be Algeria.

They would loose all the ships to mutiny long before they got close to the US shores.
 
Can they send ships through Suez? I think that is against the rules. They would have to go around Africa to get here, and the last place they could refuel, refurbish would be..... Where?

If they can go through Suez, that means the last refueling/watering stop would be Algeria.

They would loose all the ships to mutiny long before they got close to the US shores.

Let them do it than.
 
That is quite a long supply line for a bunch of camel drivers. Accidents happen in the dark you have to be real careful. One minute your here and the next gone.

Unrep is a bitch when you know what you are doing. They dont have the capability.
Much ado about nothing.
Just stirring up the easily upset.
 
Another small issue is that their boats are all Diesels. On the plus for the Iranians, they can go far more quiet than nukes. On the minus, they have to to surface every 18 hours or so to recharge batteries. And they are going to do this in the North Atlantic.

The Germans were very effective with Wolf packs, but I believe they lost like 95% of their boats by 1944. Not a few of them due to the fact they had to come up for air during weather.

As for the surface ships.... we know where they are and the Iranians would be better off just sending a PT boat towing targets than an actual navel vessel.
 
They could claim the cruise ship tried to ram them late at night while they were on the surface .... No one ever said the Iranians were smart

Yeah. They could use the same excuse that American Sub Commander used when they plowed into a boat full of school kids during a power dive off the coast of Japan.

Of course..little hard to explain why a Texas Oil Man was driving..:eusa_shhh:

You're a fucking idiot.

Scott was a career Naval officer and well respected and admired by his crew. You're not fit to wash his skivvies nor massage his balls with a warm washcloth, asswipe.

Waddle Scott | Bio of Waddle Scott | AEI Speakers Bureau

Fuck off you gay asshole.

Oil tycoons on the submarine - Campaign Finance - Salon.com

It seriously sucks don't it..to debate people who know what the fuck they are talking about..

Oil tycoons on the submarine
The list of civilians aboard the USS Greeneville doesn't reveal a fundraising scandal, but it does underscore the link between money and access to power.
By Daryl Lindsey WASHINGTON -- Texas oil money will buy you access to more than just Washington environmental policy. Apparently, it will also get you a seat on the USS Greeneville. If you're lucky, the sub's captain might even let you have a go at the controls.

Following its initial investigation of the sinking of Japanese fishing vessel Ehime Maru, the Navy finally released Saturday a list of civilians who were aboard the USS Greeneville the day it rammed into the Ehime Maru, killing nine passengers, including four Japanese students.

You fucking shitstain pansy ass motherfucker..
 

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