Iran Special Force Training - LOL

I'm Not saying Israel can't take care of herself, but Israel is a Strong Allie of America, even if people don't want to admit it.

We take care of our Allies, so if Iran attacks we will help out one way or another. :)

the usa wants iran to attack israel so it can go out in full mode without it being called pre-emptive. it would also allow us to take over their oil production and the strait in order to prevent $30 a gallon gas

Do you liberals ever get anything right. That was the same conspiracy/excuse you douche bags gave for why we went into Iraq. That is was about the US looking to secure and control Iraq's oil. One small problem IT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED! Oil prices went up not down. We protected the oil fields for a while, but WE NEVER CONTROLLED THEM. Heck we didn't even direct how or to whom they could sell there oil to.

The grand conspiracy that Bush went into Iraq to secure and control Iraq oil has been PROVEN wrong and anyone who argues to the opposite is either ignorant, stupid or a combo of both!
 
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No that is not a good reason, Israel can take care of herself. If Iran attacks then the US should support Israel with weapons, in the UN, stop the BS humane war talks from leftards in Europe and push for economic sanctions on Iran.

I'm Not saying Israel can't take care of herself, but Israel is a Strong Allie of America, even if people don't want to admit it.

We take care of our Allies, so if Iran attacks we will help out one way or another. :)[/QUOTE]
We should help allies when they can't help themselves.

First, if we help Israel in a war, then Libtards like Blu will scream about those damn dirty Jews got us into another war. However, this time people will listen and Israel would take a major PR blow in the States.

Second, examine an Iranian counter-offensive:
(1) By the Air:
First Israel's airforce is stronger than the entire Middle East and Persia air force combined. LOL, Iran has a tiny airforce made of most pre-'79 US fighter Jets. It would be no match for Israel's airforce in its current compacity. Nevertheless, Israel has been planning its future attack for years. One prime target will be Iran's airforce. The air is out.
(2) Missile Attack:
Although this might be Iran's best direct attack method, its nothing more and an empty threat. Iran likes to brag about its vast offensive missiles. However, its bark not bite. First, their offensive missiles stockade is not nearly as large as they make it out to be. Second, the length Iranian missiles have to travel is a extremely long. This makes them easily detectable. Third Israel has some of the best missile shields in the world, which are even more effective given the size of Israel. Third, the Iranian missiles are not the high quality they make them out to be. The offensive missile claim is a PAPER DRAGON.
(3) Naval attack:
Iran's navy is like its airforce. Small and outdated. First it wouldn't be match for Israel's navy, but it would be intercepted by many different navies (Britian, French, Italian, Turkish, Saudi Arabian, Iraqi, US even Russian) and would have to engage in combat to even get a chance to get slaughtered by Israel's navy. The by the sea option is out.
(4) Ground forces:
This would be Iran's biggest military advantage over Israel, since it has a larger active armed forces and a 10 fold larger population. However, ground troops mean little if they can't get to the battle field. The air transportation is out. Sea transportation is out and Iraq, Turk, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and even Syria, wouldn't allow a massive Iranian ground force to travel through its country. The ground troops would have no way to get to the battle. A few special force agents might or never 1,000 or so could get through the cracks into Syria or Lebanon, if either engaged in direct conflict, but the mass amount of troops needed for the ground forces to be in Iran's favor would be near impossible for Iran to succeed. Not to mention shear numbers have meant very little in the pass. In '48 (when Israel didn't have a sophisticated military), '67 and '73 massive amount of ground troops were sent (much bigger than what Iran could even muster) received royal ass-kickings. Check this one off the list.
(5) Proxy Wars (meaning Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria):
First, if Syrian wanted war with Israel they would have provoked one by now. Make no mistake, the Syrian Alawites (which is a branch of Shia Islam) rule is over Sunni Islam is very much challenged in Syria. Ever wonder about Assad and Iran's connection. They share Shia Islam. Second, you might hear some Syrian's talk tough, but they without a doubt fear war with Israel. If they wanted war, they had more than opportune time to engage in war, when Israel blew up its nuclear site. Syria will not go to war with Israel for itself, so why would anyone think they would for Iran.
Second, accept it or not, Cast Lead has amazing results. The missile attacks stopped, Hamas fears for its life and even seems to be moderating and it exposed Hamas's capacities as extremely limited. No true large scale threat there.
Third, Hezbollah. People like to say Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass, but look at the facts. The destruction to Lebanon was enormous. Not so much to Israel. While Hezbollah has rearmed, they had done much to avoid any confrontation with Israel. Heck their leader is deathly afraid to come out in public even in his own country. Believe it or not Israel fought the Second Lebanon war with its hands tied behind its back. If Hezbollah goes to war with Israel for Iran, you better believe it will be a bloody massacre and the Liberals will be crying louder than ever.


Fact of the matter is. Israel doesn't need our help and it would do more bad than good if we did help!
 
No that is not a good reason, Israel can take care of herself. If Iran attacks then the US should support Israel with weapons, in the UN, stop the BS humane war talks from leftards in Europe and push for economic sanctions on Iran.

I'm Not saying Israel can't take care of herself, but Israel is a Strong Allie of America, even if people don't want to admit it.

We take care of our Allies, so if Iran attacks we will help out one way or another. :)
We should help allies when they can't help themselves.

First, if we help Israel in a war, then Libtards like Blu will scream about those damn dirty Jews got us into another war. However, this time people will listen and Israel would take a major PR blow in the States.

Second, examine an Iranian counter-offensive:
(1) By the Air:
First Israel's airforce is stronger than the entire Middle East and Persia air force combined. LOL, Iran has a tiny airforce made of most pre-'79 US fighter Jets. It would be no match for Israel's airforce in its current compacity. Nevertheless, Israel has been planning its future attack for years. One prime target will be Iran's airforce. The air is out.
(2) Missile Attack:
Although this might be Iran's best direct attack method, its nothing more and an empty threat. Iran likes to brag about its vast offensive missiles. However, its bark not bite. First, their offensive missiles stockade is not nearly as large as they make it out to be. Second, the length Iranian missiles have to travel is a extremely long. This makes them easily detectable. Third Israel has some of the best missile shields in the world, which are even more effective given the size of Israel. Third, the Iranian missiles are not the high quality they make them out to be. The offensive missile claim is a PAPER DRAGON.
(3) Naval attack:
Iran's navy is like its airforce. Small and outdated. First it wouldn't be match for Israel's navy, but it would be intercepted by many different navies (Britian, French, Italian, Turkish, Saudi Arabian, Iraqi, US even Russian) and would have to engage in combat to even get a chance to get slaughtered by Israel's navy. The by the sea option is out.
(4) Ground forces:
This would be Iran's biggest military advantage over Israel, since it has a larger active armed forces and a 10 fold larger population. However, ground troops mean little if they can't get to the battle field. The air transportation is out. Sea transportation is out and Iraq, Turk, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and even Syria, wouldn't allow a massive Iranian ground force to travel through its country. The ground troops would have no way to get to the battle. A few special force agents might or never 1,000 or so could get through the cracks into Syria or Lebanon, if either engaged in direct conflict, but the mass amount of troops needed for the ground forces to be in Iran's favor would be near impossible for Iran to succeed. Not to mention shear numbers have meant very little in the pass. In '48 (when Israel didn't have a sophisticated military), '67 and '73 massive amount of ground troops were sent (much bigger than what Iran could even muster) received royal ass-kickings. Check this one off the list.
(5) Proxy Wars (meaning Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria):
First, if Syrian wanted war with Israel they would have provoked one by now. Make no mistake, the Syrian Alawites (which is a branch of Shia Islam) rule is over Sunni Islam is very much challenged in Syria. Ever wonder about Assad and Iran's connection. They share Shia Islam. Second, you might hear some Syrian's talk tough, but they without a doubt fear war with Israel. If they wanted war, they had more than opportune time to engage in war, when Israel blew up its nuclear site. Syria will not go to war with Israel for itself, so why would anyone think they would for Iran.
Second, accept it or not, Cast Lead has amazing results. The missile attacks stopped, Hamas fears for its life and even seems to be moderating and it exposed Hamas's capacities as extremely limited. No true large scale threat there.
Third, Hezbollah. People like to say Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass, but look at the facts. The destruction to Lebanon was enormous. Not so much to Israel. While Hezbollah has rearmed, they had done much to avoid any confrontation with Israel. Heck their leader is deathly afraid to come out in public even in his own country. Believe it or not Israel fought the Second Lebanon war with its hands tied behind its back. If Hezbollah goes to war with Israel for Iran, you better believe it will be a bloody massacre and the Liberals will be crying louder than ever.


Fact of the matter is. Israel doesn't need our help and it would do more bad than good if we did help!

I'm not saying we should go and put troops right away if Iran wages war, If that was our policy we would be there fighting against Hamas.

The only time we will put Troops on the ground if Israel asks for help or whenever they attack us.
 
No troops into Iran period. Death from about and from sea fine. Blockade and economic section cool. Making sure the Straits stay open cool. But invading Iran shouldn't even be on the table!

No that is not a good reason, Israel can take care of herself. If Iran attacks then the US should support Israel with weapons, in the UN, stop the BS humane war talks from leftards in Europe and push for economic sanctions on Iran.

I'm Not saying Israel can't take care of herself, but Israel is a Strong Allie of America, even if people don't want to admit it.

We take care of our Allies, so if Iran attacks we will help out one way or another. :)
We should help allies when they can't help themselves.

First, if we help Israel in a war, then Libtards like Blu will scream about those damn dirty Jews got us into another war. However, this time people will listen and Israel would take a major PR blow in the States.

Second, examine an Iranian counter-offensive:
(1) By the Air:
First Israel's airforce is stronger than the entire Middle East and Persia air force combined. LOL, Iran has a tiny airforce made of most pre-'79 US fighter Jets. It would be no match for Israel's airforce in its current compacity. Nevertheless, Israel has been planning its future attack for years. One prime target will be Iran's airforce. The air is out.
(2) Missile Attack:
Although this might be Iran's best direct attack method, its nothing more and an empty threat. Iran likes to brag about its vast offensive missiles. However, its bark not bite. First, their offensive missiles stockade is not nearly as large as they make it out to be. Second, the length Iranian missiles have to travel is a extremely long. This makes them easily detectable. Third Israel has some of the best missile shields in the world, which are even more effective given the size of Israel. Third, the Iranian missiles are not the high quality they make them out to be. The offensive missile claim is a PAPER DRAGON.
(3) Naval attack:
Iran's navy is like its airforce. Small and outdated. First it wouldn't be match for Israel's navy, but it would be intercepted by many different navies (Britian, French, Italian, Turkish, Saudi Arabian, Iraqi, US even Russian) and would have to engage in combat to even get a chance to get slaughtered by Israel's navy. The by the sea option is out.
(4) Ground forces:
This would be Iran's biggest military advantage over Israel, since it has a larger active armed forces and a 10 fold larger population. However, ground troops mean little if they can't get to the battle field. The air transportation is out. Sea transportation is out and Iraq, Turk, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and even Syria, wouldn't allow a massive Iranian ground force to travel through its country. The ground troops would have no way to get to the battle. A few special force agents might or never 1,000 or so could get through the cracks into Syria or Lebanon, if either engaged in direct conflict, but the mass amount of troops needed for the ground forces to be in Iran's favor would be near impossible for Iran to succeed. Not to mention shear numbers have meant very little in the pass. In '48 (when Israel didn't have a sophisticated military), '67 and '73 massive amount of ground troops were sent (much bigger than what Iran could even muster) received royal ass-kickings. Check this one off the list.
(5) Proxy Wars (meaning Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria):
First, if Syrian wanted war with Israel they would have provoked one by now. Make no mistake, the Syrian Alawites (which is a branch of Shia Islam) rule is over Sunni Islam is very much challenged in Syria. Ever wonder about Assad and Iran's connection. They share Shia Islam. Second, you might hear some Syrian's talk tough, but they without a doubt fear war with Israel. If they wanted war, they had more than opportune time to engage in war, when Israel blew up its nuclear site. Syria will not go to war with Israel for itself, so why would anyone think they would for Iran.
Second, accept it or not, Cast Lead has amazing results. The missile attacks stopped, Hamas fears for its life and even seems to be moderating and it exposed Hamas's capacities as extremely limited. No true large scale threat there.
Third, Hezbollah. People like to say Hezbollah kicked Israel's ass, but look at the facts. The destruction to Lebanon was enormous. Not so much to Israel. While Hezbollah has rearmed, they had done much to avoid any confrontation with Israel. Heck their leader is deathly afraid to come out in public even in his own country. Believe it or not Israel fought the Second Lebanon war with its hands tied behind its back. If Hezbollah goes to war with Israel for Iran, you better believe it will be a bloody massacre and the Liberals will be crying louder than ever.


Fact of the matter is. Israel doesn't need our help and it would do more bad than good if we did help!

I'm not saying we should go and put troops right away if Iran wages war, If that was our policy we would be there fighting against Hamas.

The only time we will put Troops on the ground if Israel asks for help or whenever they attack us.
 
No troops into Iran period. Death from about and from sea fine. Blockade and economic section cool. Making sure the Straits stay open cool. But invading Iran shouldn't even be on the table!

If they attack us then of course we'll retaliate. Simple Logic.

But other than that, no. We have 2 wars going on, Iraq has scaled down, now it's time to finish in Afghan.
 
Do you liberals ever get anything right. That was the same conspiracy/excuse you douche bags gave for why we went into Iraq. That is was about the US looking to secure and control Iraq's oil. One small problem IT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED! Oil prices went up not down. We protected the oil fields for a while, but WE NEVER CONTROLLED THEM. Heck we didn't even direct how or to whom they could sell there oil to.

The grand conspiracy that Bush went into Iraq to secure and control Iraq oil has been PROVEN wrong and anyone who argues to the opposite is either ignorant, stupid or a combo of both!

Oh the irony.

As far as excuses for going into Iraq, how are those WMDs working out for you?
 
No troops into Iran period. Death from about and from sea fine. Blockade and economic section cool. Making sure the Straits stay open cool. But invading Iran shouldn't even be on the table!

Well that will show 'em.

I love you internet wanna-be Generals who think any sort of military option without the infantry would be sufficient.

Kind of like the whole "shock and awe" campaign.

That really put the final nail in the coffin in Iraq, didn't it?
 
Given the US's historic failure to win anything logic would dictate that they leave Iran well alone. But give that the jackasses in charge are being led by their Zionist masters its obvious that a 3rd thrashing in the ME is on the cards.

Perhaps one day when the average Joe realise that their country is entirely broke in more ways that one it may eventually realise the futility of wars that are not winable.
 
Republicans Fighting Terrorism: The Iran Legacy of Ronald Reagan and Oliver "It's a Neat Idea" North

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According to The New York Times, the United States supplied the following arms to Iran:


August 20, 1985. 96 TOW anti-tank missiles
September 14, 1985. 408 more TOWs
November 24, 1985. 18 Hawk anti-aircraft missiles
February 17, 1986. 500 TOWs
February 27, 1986. 500 TOWs
May 24, 1986. 508 TOWs, 240 Hawk spare parts
August 4, 1986. More Hawk spares
October 28, 1986. 500 TOWs

That worked out well.
 

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