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The western media was very underhanded when reporting the recent protests in Iran.This system won't be kicked-out by developments like in Tahrir-Square.
The pro-Government folks would fill multiple Tahrir-Squares if they went to the streets.
for consistency, yesthing is, Obama was right back then, and i hope he maintains that we should stay out of it
Agreed. However he should speak in solidarity to freedom at least as he did with Egypt, No?
but i doubt that will happen
yeah, get your tin foil hats outThe western media was very underhanded when reporting the recent protests in Iran.This system won't be kicked-out by developments like in Tahrir-Square.
The pro-Government folks would fill multiple Tahrir-Squares if they went to the streets.
They only showed the anti-government crowds to the western viewing audience.
Yet, there were also huge pro-government marches that were several times larger.
That were basically ignored by the media.
Typical of the western nations style of reporting.
Just report what you think the people want to see and hear.
And make sure it fits the zionist agenda of the networks owner.
thats partially because prior to the 1979 revolution, Iran was headed towards a modern western style countryIran, much like the USA is a DIVIDED SOCIETY.
On one hand you have the educated and upper middle classes who long for a modern secular nation.
And in the hinterlands of Iran, you have the very religious faithbased anti-science, anti-intellectuals who support repressive government based on some goofy notions about GOD.
Sound vaguely familiar?
Now I know that some of you doubt that, but I'm willing to bet that I am the ONLY person here who works with IRANIANS currently living in Iran.
You guys think they hate AMERICANS?
You're wrong.
What they hate is their own religious fanatics who repress their own personal freedoms.
I'm telling yas, with the propaganda value that our own foreign policies give the Mullahs, I doubt their current government would last a year.
We ought to be working with Iran, instead of demonizing that place.
Of all the Islamic world, Iran probably has more citizens ready to join the modern secular world than any other nation with the obvious exception of Turkey.
thats partially because prior to the 1979 revolution, Iran was headed towards a modern western style countryIran, much like the USA is a DIVIDED SOCIETY.
On one hand you have the educated and upper middle classes who long for a modern secular nation.
And in the hinterlands of Iran, you have the very religious faithbased anti-science, anti-intellectuals who support repressive government based on some goofy notions about GOD.
Sound vaguely familiar?
Now I know that some of you doubt that, but I'm willing to bet that I am the ONLY person here who works with IRANIANS currently living in Iran.
You guys think they hate AMERICANS?
You're wrong.
What they hate is their own religious fanatics who repress their own personal freedoms.
I'm telling yas, with the propaganda value that our own foreign policies give the Mullahs, I doubt their current government would last a year.
We ought to be working with Iran, instead of demonizing that place.
Of all the Islamic world, Iran probably has more citizens ready to join the modern secular world than any other nation with the obvious exception of Turkey.
thats partially because prior to the 1979 revolution, Iran was headed towards a modern western style countryIran, much like the USA is a DIVIDED SOCIETY.
On one hand you have the educated and upper middle classes who long for a modern secular nation.
And in the hinterlands of Iran, you have the very religious faithbased anti-science, anti-intellectuals who support repressive government based on some goofy notions about GOD.
Sound vaguely familiar?
Now I know that some of you doubt that, but I'm willing to bet that I am the ONLY person here who works with IRANIANS currently living in Iran.
You guys think they hate AMERICANS?
You're wrong.
What they hate is their own religious fanatics who repress their own personal freedoms.
I'm telling yas, with the propaganda value that our own foreign policies give the Mullahs, I doubt their current government would last a year.
We ought to be working with Iran, instead of demonizing that place.
Of all the Islamic world, Iran probably has more citizens ready to join the modern secular world than any other nation with the obvious exception of Turkey.
Except for the fact that the USA had installed a tryrannical monarchy in the early 1950s, you mean?
Do you know WHY we did that?
The best thing we could do in Iran is to open it to travel and tourism. Open our educational institutions to Iranians.
Isolation breeds extremism.
The best thing we could do in Iran is to open it to travel and tourism. Open our educational institutions to Iranians.
Isolation breeds extremism.
I went to university with a LOT of Iranians in the late 70s.
They were, of course, mostly the children of the insiders of the Shah's regime.
I liked them though. First of all they nearly spoke better English than most of us did, and most of them were thoughly westernized in their tastes and attitudes.
I often wonder what happened to a lot of them.
They were richer than hell while we were going to school, but then when the Shah fell, that gravy train stopping running past their door.
I doubt many of them went back to Iran.
They tended to study engineering, business or medicine, so I expect most of them are probably doing alright here,
we did no such thingthats partially because prior to the 1979 revolution, Iran was headed towards a modern western style countryIran, much like the USA is a DIVIDED SOCIETY.
On one hand you have the educated and upper middle classes who long for a modern secular nation.
And in the hinterlands of Iran, you have the very religious faithbased anti-science, anti-intellectuals who support repressive government based on some goofy notions about GOD.
Sound vaguely familiar?
Now I know that some of you doubt that, but I'm willing to bet that I am the ONLY person here who works with IRANIANS currently living in Iran.
You guys think they hate AMERICANS?
You're wrong.
What they hate is their own religious fanatics who repress their own personal freedoms.
I'm telling yas, with the propaganda value that our own foreign policies give the Mullahs, I doubt their current government would last a year.
We ought to be working with Iran, instead of demonizing that place.
Of all the Islamic world, Iran probably has more citizens ready to join the modern secular world than any other nation with the obvious exception of Turkey.
Except for the fact that the USA had installed a tryrannical monarchy in the early 1950s, you mean?
Do you know WHY we did that?
Washington came out strongly in support of antigovernment protests in Iran after a day of massive protests in Tehran Monday, part of the wave of antigovernment revolt sweeping across the Middle East. Thousands took to the streets in Tehrans Asadi Square on Feb. 14, showing their solidarity with the Egyptian revolution, according to a BBC report. Police used tear gas and batons to dispel the protesters. One person was reportedly shot dead when the fighting broke out between antigovernment demonstrators and security forces, and dozens have been arrested. Demonstrations were also held in other Iranian cities, such as Isfahan, Mashhad, and Shiraz.
In Washington, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters that the United States stood behind the protesters in Iran. Mrs Clinton said they deserved to have "the same rights that they saw being played out in Egypt" and that Iran had to "open up" its political system. "What we see happening in Iran today is a testament to the courage of the Iranian people, and an indictment of the hypocrisy of the Iranian regime a regime which over the last three weeks has constantly hailed what went on in Egypt," she said. "We are against violence and we would call to account the Iranian government that is once again using its security forces and resorting to violence to prevent the free expression of ideas from their own people."
There have not been statements so directly in support of antigovernment demonstrators in other countries rocked by violent protests, such as Jordan, Bahrain, and Yemen, though US officials flew to Jordan Monday to reassure King Abdullah II of their continued support, the Washington Post reported.
Iran responded to Clintons comments today: Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said events in the Middle East have confused the US because the changes in the regions were blows to world powers and Israel, according to Xinhua news. Staunch pro-government Iranian lawmakers on Tuesday called for Iranian opposition leaders to be tried and put to death, according to the Associated Press. More than 220 lawmakers issued a statement saying that opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mahdi Karroubi and former reformist President Mohammad Khatami should be held responsible for the current antigovernment uprising. "We believe the people have lost their patience and demand capital punishment" for the opposition leaders, the statement said.
Current protests in Iran are the largest in the country since the massive protests in 2009 following the disputed presidential election, which President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed to win.
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^^^^ i guess i called itthe sad thing is, those Mullahs wont have a problem having them shotI filly expect that the good people in Iran will have their own civil uprisings against their MULLAH driven regime soon, too.
Assuming, of course, the West doesn't make the mistake of invading that nation.
unlike those in Egypt
the military refused to do it
lets hope it doesnt have to go that far to get the needed resultsI hope the whole country is bathed in blood. Maybe then the people of iran can win back their country and recognize the mistake of putting religious terrorists nut cases in charge.
I really dont care if they are slaughtered by the millions...so long as we stay the hell out of it!
AND this time hopefully do it right!
lets hope it doesnt have to go that far to get the needed resultsI hope the whole country is bathed in blood. Maybe then the people of iran can win back their country and recognize the mistake of putting religious terrorists nut cases in charge.
I really dont care if they are slaughtered by the millions...so long as we stay the hell out of it!
AND this time hopefully do it right!
lets hope it doesnt have to go that far to get the needed resultsI hope the whole country is bathed in blood. Maybe then the people of iran can win back their country and recognize the mistake of putting religious terrorists nut cases in charge.
I really dont care if they are slaughtered by the millions...so long as we stay the hell out of it!
AND this time hopefully do it right!
It will. They will be going against the will of the government and allah. Therefore they must die.
