Iran has the best army in the world.

[R.C. Christian]

Without an air force the ground troops are worthless.

eh.. he's a delusional jew-hating troll anyway.

i'm gonna bet he isn't around long.

From the looks of it your definition of anti-semitism is any person who dislikes Israel or it's policies. You people are a dime a dozen.

 

[zzzz]

"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. "
— George S. Patton Jr.

 

[zzzz]

"On the whole, however, Iran’s military remains mired in conventional doctrine because of bureaucratic inertia in procurement and frequent infighting between the Revolutionary Guard and conventional forces. Most of Iran’s military equipment is out of date and poorly maintained, and its ground forces suffer from both personnel and equipment shortages." http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG781.sum.pdf

The focus on defense for the Iranians would be hit and run actions against an invading or occcupying force and the use of IED's.

But the Israeli's have no desire to conduct a ground war in Iran. It would be strickly air strikes with the possibility of sub based munitions to hit unprotected sites. Some limited special forces activity could also be expected to secure an area for a limited time and to direct airstrikes and asess damages.

 

[count markovale]

"On the whole, however, Iran’s military remains mired in conventional doctrine because of bureaucratic inertia in procurement and frequent infighting between the Revolutionary Guard and conventional forces. Most of Iran’s military equipment is out of date and poorly maintained, and its ground forces suffer from both personnel and equipment shortages." http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG781.sum.pdf

The focus on defense for the Iranians would be hit and run actions against an invading or occcupying force and the use of IED's.

But the Israeli's have no desire to conduct a ground war in Iran. It would be strickly air strikes with the possibility of sub based munitions to hit unprotected sites. Some limited special forces activity could also be expected to secure an area for a limited time and to direct airstrikes and asess damages.

what makes you so sure israeli war planes will not be shot down by sams?

and why so sure that israeli war planes can fly round trip on one tank of gas?

and would arab countries allow for an invasion of their airspace.. think it through cowboy!

 

[zzzz]

"On the whole, however, Iran’s military remains mired in conventional doctrine because of bureaucratic inertia in procurement and frequent infighting between the Revolutionary Guard and conventional forces. Most of Iran’s military equipment is out of date and poorly maintained, and its ground forces suffer from both personnel and equipment shortages." http://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG781.sum.pdf

The focus on defense for the Iranians would be hit and run actions against an invading or occcupying force and the use of IED's.

But the Israeli's have no desire to conduct a ground war in Iran. It would be strickly air strikes with the possibility of sub based munitions to hit unprotected sites. Some limited special forces activity could also be expected to secure an area for a limited time and to direct airstrikes and asess damages.

what makes you so sure israeli war planes will not be shot down by sams?

and why so sure that israeli war planes can fly round trip on one tank of gas?

and would arab countries allow for an invasion of their airspace.. think it through cowboy!

Oh I am sure that some bombers will be shot down, that is a part of war. Just like we will lose planes when China invades Taiwain in the next decade.

Israeli planes fly on aviation fuel not gas and they do have exterior tanks that they put on the bombers. The tanks do limit the payload somewhat so they will probably have some refueling aircraft available to top them off on a return flight.

What makes you think they have the capability to stop them? When they bombed Syria, Syria didn't even get a missle shot off or launch a fighter. The Israelis have capabilites that we might not have for our forces. They have their own research and development that they do not share with us including countermeasures. Anyway Jordan and SA are not going to stand in the way and Iraq... has nothing.

 

[Jeremy]

Without an air force the ground troops are worthless.

eh.. he's a delusional jew-hating troll anyway.

i'm gonna bet he isn't around long.

From the looks of it your definition of anti-semitism is any person who dislikes Israel or it's policies. You people are a dime a dozen.

If jillian was refering to count markovale than you obviously need to catch up on some reading. C.M. is the textbook definition of an anti semite.

I take that back. Giving c.m. the title of anti-semite would be an insult to anti-semites. count markovale is the epitome of bigoted blind hatred.

 

[Jos]

eh.. he's a delusional jew-hating troll anyway.

i'm gonna bet he isn't around long.

From the looks of it your definition of anti-semitism is any person who dislikes Israel or it's policies. You people are a dime a dozen.

If jillian was refering to count markovale than you obviously need to catch up on some reading. C.M. is the textbook definition of an anti semite.

I take that back. Giving c.m. the title of anti-semite would be an insult to anti-semites. count markovale is the epitome of bigoted blind hatred.

depends on what you term semite, soapy

 

[Godboy]

at this moment in time iran possesses the best trained and the most highly motivated ,on the ground defense force of any nation in the world.

they lack an effective navy and airforce but their ground forces have been trained to fight to the death and this thanks to their shiaa faith which is by far the most fanatical branch of islam.

their army is well equipped and the very topography of iran is a strategic factor that untrained nato ground forces would have difficulty overcoming.

the genius of the iranian soldier is the training he receives ,which combines fanaticism with military discipline. this is unheard of anywhere else and can only be compared with the training the ottomons gave to their soldiers.

the gravediggers in iran have already prepared temporary graves for the thousands of dead soldiers that will liter the landscape.

fight the jewish poison! .

I dont understand why you would want people to think you believe this nonsense. Are you REALLY stupid or just a wacked out nutcase?

 

[Titanic Sailor]

I have a funny feeling the Russians will blow a bunch of Muslims of the map soon, so we'll see how it goes..............

 

[daveman]

at this moment in time iran possesses the best trained and the most highly motivated ,on the ground defense force of any nation in the world.

they lack an effective navy and airforce but their ground forces have been trained to fight to the death and this thanks to their shiaa faith which is by far the most fanatical branch of islam.

their army is well equipped and the very topography of iran is a strategic factor that untrained nato ground forces would have difficulty overcoming.

the genius of the iranian soldier is the training he receives ,which combines fanaticism with military discipline. this is unheard of anywhere else and can only be compared with the training the ottomons gave to their soldiers.

the gravediggers in iran have already prepared temporary graves for the thousands of dead soldiers that will liter the landscape.

fight the jewish poison! .

I dont understand why you would want people to think you believe this nonsense. Are you REALLY stupid or just a wacked out nutcase?

The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[germanguy]

i can assure you,there will be no jewish americans fighting on the ground in IRAN... ha ha ha ...ha ha..ha..

ONLY DUMB GENTILES ..like some of YOU!

of course not... why would anyone fight a ground war in iran when blowing up its nuclear capability from the sky will be so much more satisfactory.

Don´t you know the joke from the Cold War ?

After the end of World War III, two Russian Generals are lying on the beach in Spain.

"Hey Igor, do you know who has won the War in the Air ?"

So, I personally believe, that in case of conflict, the IDF or USAF will blow up a lot of sand, but do no real harm. If the Iranians have not dispersed their program and hidden it, they deserve no nuclear arms.

regards
ze germanguy

 

[Charles_Main]

at this moment in time iran possesses the best trained and the most highly motivated ,on the ground defense force of any nation in the world.

they lack an effective navy and airforce but their ground forces have been trained to fight to the death and this thanks to their shiaa faith which is by far the most fanatical branch of islam.

their army is well equipped and the very topography of iran is a strategic factor that untrained nato ground forces would have difficulty overcoming.

the genius of the iranian soldier is the training he receives ,which combines fanaticism with military discipline. this is unheard of anywhere else and can only be compared with the training the ottomons gave to their soldiers.

the gravediggers in iran have already prepared temporary graves for the thousands of dead soldiers that will liter the landscape.

fight the jewish poison! .

Considering we have not seen in them in action since their war with Iraq. I can not imagine what you base this on. Other than your rather obvious hate for Jews.

Lets watch them invade any of their neighbors and see just how long it takes the US air force to DECIMATE them.

 

[Tom Clancy]

 

[germanguy]

Hmpf....

Whatever I might think about the current Iranian goverment, there are some facts which shold be considered:

1. Even with a revolutionary government, Iran had no expansion policy. Even historically Iran can be considered as saturated.

2. The strategic position of Iran is uncomfortable. In the east are the Afghan troubles, an instable Pakistan (with nukes) and western troops, mostly unfriendly US troops. In the west are also US troops in Iraq and a country close on a breakdown. North are the Turks, also a NATO state. As Iran´s government supports forces of terror (or freedom fighters in their understanding), Israel is an enemy as well.
Also, as Iran´s coast is along the Persian Gulf, the strategic important oil route, they must live with a lot of unfriendly navy forces in these waters. (Simply think of Chinese or Brazilian carrier groups in the Gulf of Mexico. Stupid idea ? Let´s talk in 25 years again.).

So, as a chief of staff in Iran I would feel very uncomfortable.

3. The Iranians, at least the ones I know, are very patriotc.Most men of my age have fought against Iraq. When Chomenei ordered them, after driving the Iraquis back, to march on Baghdad, they did not so. Whatever there is behind this story:
Iran is not an expansive.

4. Iran is one of the oldest cultures in the world. They consider themselves as heirs to the Persians, so their culture is much older than i.e. France.
This means they have a long memory. Iran in the last 150 has always been a playground of the superpowers. That the CIA staged a coup to bring down an Iranian PM in the fifties, so US politics do not necessarily have much friends.
Quite understandable. If Canada would have brought down Kennedy with help of it´s secret service, not much people in the US would like Canada.


To sum it up:

The Iranian government has more than a doubtful role and about it`s legitimation one might easily have more than doubts.
Still: it will be helpful to try to understand Irans position.
And:
I doubt that their army is that good, as the starter of this thread said.
But in case they will fight. Perhaps not well-led, but they will make a stand and all of them.
They remember the war against Iraq as something they did alone, against an Iraq supported by all major powers. So they know they can do this.

Still, most of the things said in this thread is kind of dick-size comparision.
Face it: if Israel or the US attack Iran, they will try their outmost to fight back, with whatever there is available. So why not start to negotiate in earnest before people get hurt.

regards
ze germanguy

 

[Douger]

I'm not so sure I'm going to like this guy... What do you mean by "fight the jewish poison"? What's up with that?

the jewish poison is the moral breakdown of america. it eventually causes paralysis and the ability to fight back for one's self preservation is gone.

by using pornography and by destroying the nation's schools and churches they have prepared the people for the ultimate act of self destruction; miscegenation.

what do you think the jewish financed civil rights movement was all about?

You mean like this, bro ?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHnvVlueAw4&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Subliminal Sex Messages and Pornography in Advertising and Cartoons[/ame]

 

[germanguy]

Shit...
we are all doomed....

See you all in hell...

regards
ze germanguy

 

[R.C. Christian]

Why do you people think that a nation, even Iran, seeks nuclear weapons? Not expecting any intelligent responses here.

 

[Marc39]

Why do you people think that a nation, even Iran, seeks nuclear weapons? Not expecting any intelligent responses here.

Iran wants nukes becasue of the apocalyptic Ithna Ashariyyah ideology they subscribe to calling for armageddon.

Now, you know, moron.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Why do you people think that a nation, even Iran, seeks nuclear weapons? Not expecting any intelligent responses here.

Iran wants nukes becasue of the apocalyptic Ithna Ashariyyah ideology they subscribe to calling for armageddon.

Now, you know, moron.

Infantile stupidity at it's finest. Thanks for demonstrating.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Without an air force the ground troops are worthless.

eh, Vietnam anyone?