CDZ Iran Advancing its Nuke program, Again.

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  1. The Banker
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    AHAHA!! Bad news...

    Sorry bud your response is fake news, good try though.

    Nearly all of the enriched uranium Iran turned over was low enriched uranium, a long, long way from being able to use it in a bomb.

    Complete and total fake news, get some facts sorry... here ya go:

    Why do the limits on Iran's uranium enrichment matter?

    That is because going from uranium's natural state of 0.7% concentration of U-235 to 20% takes about 90% of the total effort required to get to weapons-grade.

    Before the nuclear deal was implemented in 2016, Iran had a sufficient amount of 20% enriched uranium and number of centrifuges that its so-called "break-out time" - the time it would theoretically take to acquire enough fissile material for one bomb, if it chose to do so - was estimated to be about two to three months.

    Sorry bud, you fake news though. Good try though...:abgg2q.jpg:
    Iran's "breakout time" was estimated to be 2-3 months...

    There is no evidence Iran has restarted its nuclear weapons program


    More fake news. Iran has admitted ... THEY ADMITTED...they are enriching uranium again and are moving step by step to 20% enrichment. As we have already established going to 20% is the most difficult part and once at 20% their breakout time is only a few months...

    This is identical to NK in 2003. NK screamed "we are escalating our nuke program" REMEMBER??? probably not... they repeated the claim... Bush did nothing... Then they made a nuke... exactly what Iran is doing now...

    Iran warns EU over nuclear commitments as deadline for further steps looms - Reuters


    Tehran has threatened to take further steps by Sept. 6, such as enriching uranium to 20% or restarting mothballed centrifuges, machines that purify uranium for use as fuel in power plants or, if very highly enriched, in weapons.

    Nk had begun building its nuclear weapons under Clinton's deal, with the US financing it,

    More fake news by you. Find a source that says the US gave NK money??? The US gave NK 2 light water reactors to replace the heavy water reactor they already had, as you probably don't know light water reactors are harder to get weapons grade material from than heavy. The US also gave NK fuel oil until the light water reactors were built in order to have NK shut down their heavy water reactor. BUT no money/financing

    No financing... more fake news by you.
    You just fabricated 3 separate fake arguments and I busted you bad...
    Get back to me when you have some real facts... nice try though
    I guess the good news is you finally learned that Iran was close to making a nuke in 2015...
     
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    First, you haven't refuted the fact that nearly all the enriched uranium Iran gave up was low enriched uranium. Second, regardless of the article, according to the IAEA Iran had less than 200 kg of 20% enriched uranium, the amount needed to further enrich to a Hiroshima size nuke, when Obama caved in to the ayatollahs. Third, break out time does not mean the time to build a nuke device that can be delivered, it merely means there is enough 90% enriched uranium to make some kind of nuclear device. It took NK longer to miniaturize its nuke to fit into the nose cone of a missile than it took to develop the nuke. So there was no urgency about making a deal with Iran, and in fact, there is no urgency today since Iran has made no substantial move to restarted its nuclear weapons program, which it claims it never had.
     
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    The amazing thing to me is that some people trust Iran or for that matter North Korea. I mean really, you have to be a complete idiot to trust either. It's not paranoia, it's pragmatic reality. These are the sleaziest pieces of human filth that have ever existed. Trust? You've got to be kidding.
     
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    Why shouldn't they?

    One way to make sure no one invades you... have a nuke.
     
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    Naw, dumb is letting the Zionists dictate our policies... that's dumb.

    The Iran deal was imperfect, but probably the best deal we were going to get. Trump managed to blow it.
     
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    Man you are delusional. You claim I can't prove what I claim yet you make the same claims with things like N.K. would not have created a nuke if the deal was still in place.

    You claim your post is not political yet you trash Republicans.

    Got to love someone so transparent.
     
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    One thing we all (I would hope) would be better off with out is nukes, cost lots of money & do not help humans in any positive way.
     
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    Again? This would imply they stopped at some point. Only a fool would believe that. I think you meant:


    Iran Still Advancing its Nuke program.
     
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    It's the most likely scenario. In the end the Bush policy failed miserably and the worst possible outcome occurred so really anything would have been better. And certainly keeping a deal, however flawed it was, would have had a better outcome than the one we got.

    You're trying to argue that failed policy is acceptable because you can't hold Bush accountable, because the GOP never holds any of their people accountable. It's always somebody else's fault.

    Now, you fail to acknowledge that this Iran situation is progressing 100% identical to the NK. Maybe you don't remember what was going on back in 2003-4-5, but NK pretty much announced their intention to enrich and make a nuke. Right now Iran is doing the same thing and is openly stating they are going to enrich uranium to 20% again. (Does this sound familiar???) Somehow you think this outcome is going to be different than the last? Things are going to be different this time?
     
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    Got to love it not only are you a blind partisan but you are unable to understand simple concepts and look at everything through rose colored partisan glasses.

    You seem to be unable to comprehend that since N.K. was cheating they would still have developed the same capabilities that they did. The only difference would have been that they would have had a free use of all the heavy fuel oil in the process. You keep blaming the failed treaty for N.K. 's actions. You so far have only shown that you don't understand anything. Do you really think that anyone that wants something bad enough will stop? We have made things like killing illegal, we have even used the death penalty to inforce it. It has not stopped killings. Learn something about human nature and a little about history.

    You still have failed to comprehend that Iran and N.K. were trading. N. K. had only one thing that Iran would want. What do you think that was?

    Get off your partisan high horse. Look at the real world.
     

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