Invisible Russian submarine

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In June-July, the Akula-class submarine, an attack warship capable of carrying long-range ballistic missiles, travelled in the Gulf of Mexico patrolling the US coast. The US satellites and hydro-acoustic sensors failed to spot it. The US Navy spotted only the submarine’s tail when it was leaving the waters of the Gulf.
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Without breaking international law a Russian nuclear-powered submarine has successfully accomplished its training mission near the coast of the US. The submarine, which is equipped with long-range cruise missiles, shuttled for one month in the Gulf of Mexico without being detected by the US Navy, Washington Free Beacon reports citing unnamed high ranking sources in the Pentagon. The US Navy detected the submarine only when it was leaving the waters of the Gulf.

Without violating international legislation and the sovereignty of another state the Russian Navy has managed to accomplish several tactical and strategic tasks. First, the crew has completed a successful training mission. Second, the Russian military forces have received data about the routes of the US submarines and ships in the Gulf. Russia has also showed the US that an absolutely flawless security system does not exist, Vladimir Yevseyev, head of the Center of social and political studies, said:

"This is a good lesson for the US, demonstrating that it should not pursue its foreign policy interests all over the world using force. Other states also have some military potential. If the US pursues its national interests only by means of force a boomerang effect will take place. The US should realize that it is also vulnerable because the anti-missile system is not efficient enough when it comes to cruised missiles, that can fly at low altitudes. Nuclear submarines carry cruise missiles, that cannot be detected using conventional means designed for repelling ballistic missiles attacks. Cruise missiles create a breach in anti-missile defense. They show that an ideal anti-missile system does not exist. This destroys the image of the US’ invincibility, which backs its policy of all permissiveness on the global arena."
Invisible Russian submarine: Voice of Russia
http://asuwlink.uwyo.edu/~dwwilson/jaws.mid
 
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Navy playin' catch up...
:eusa_shifty:
Navy funds counter-submarine system
Aug. 20,`12 (UPI) -- A U.S. military technology organization, citing the threat from quiet diesel electric submarines, has tapped SAIC for countermeasure development.
Under an award for Phases Two-Four of the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's Anti-Submarine Warfare Continuous Trail Unmanned Vessel program, SAIC will design, construct and demonstrate an unmanned vessel that tracks diesel electric submarines for months at a time with minimal human guidance.

"Key features and technology for the vessel include advanced software, robust autonomy for safe operations in accordance with maritime laws and innovative sensors to continuously track the quietest of submarine targets," said Scott Littlefield, DARPA program manager. "Our goal is to transition an operational game-changer to the Navy. This should create an asymmetry to our advantage, negating a challenging submarine threat at 1-10th their cost of building subs.

"The program also establishes foundational technologies for future unmanned naval systems," he said. DARPA said it hopes to test the prototype developed by Science Applications International Corp. in 2015. The contract is worth nearly $58.5 million.

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In June-July, the Akula-class submarine, an attack warship capable of carrying long-range ballistic missiles, travelled in the Gulf of Mexico patrolling the US coast. The US satellites and hydro-acoustic sensors failed to spot it. The US Navy spotted only the submarine’s tail when it was leaving the waters of the Gulf.
804px-Akula_class_submarine_starboard_quarter_view.JPEG


Without breaking international law a Russian nuclear-powered submarine has successfully accomplished its training mission near the coast of the US. The submarine, which is equipped with long-range cruise missiles, shuttled for one month in the Gulf of Mexico without being detected by the US Navy, Washington Free Beacon reports citing unnamed high ranking sources in the Pentagon. The US Navy detected the submarine only when it was leaving the waters of the Gulf.

Without violating international legislation and the sovereignty of another state the Russian Navy has managed to accomplish several tactical and strategic tasks. First, the crew has completed a successful training mission. Second, the Russian military forces have received data about the routes of the US submarines and ships in the Gulf. Russia has also showed the US that an absolutely flawless security system does not exist, Vladimir Yevseyev, head of the Center of social and political studies, said:

"This is a good lesson for the US, demonstrating that it should not pursue its foreign policy interests all over the world using force. Other states also have some military potential. If the US pursues its national interests only by means of force a boomerang effect will take place. The US should realize that it is also vulnerable because the anti-missile system is not efficient enough when it comes to cruised missiles, that can fly at low altitudes. Nuclear submarines carry cruise missiles, that cannot be detected using conventional means designed for repelling ballistic missiles attacks. Cruise missiles create a breach in anti-missile defense. They show that an ideal anti-missile system does not exist. This destroys the image of the US’ invincibility, which backs its policy of all permissiveness on the global arena."
Invisible Russian submarine: Voice of Russia
http://asuwlink.uwyo.edu/~dwwilson/jaws.mid
Come on, how gullible do you have to be to swallow this crap. The Navy could not spot the tail entering the Gulf, or patrolling the Gulf for a whole month, but suddenly and miraculously could spot the tail as it was leaving the Gulf and from that lone sighting determine it was in the Gulf for a whole month.

From your link:
"I don’t doubt that this information was disclosed in connection with the budget. Now significant cuts of the US military budget are under way and this campaign is aimed at preventing budget cuts in the Navy."
 
Uncle Ferd says dey is gettin' ready...

... to launch one o' dem EMP missiles...

... an' knock out the whole country's `lectricity.
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The Akula is one (it's possible their are faster ones that are big-time Classified) of the fastest submarines on the planet earth, it's hull is made of Titanium and it is very quiet. It is not inconceivable that this sub could enter the Gulf of Mexico undetected, but if you understand what this platform is, you would not be so quick to profess that all is lost... It's an Attack Submarine. Although it is probably not out of the realm that it could carry Nuclear capable surface to surface missiles, it is not the type of submarine that could carry long range ICBM's on the magnitude of the Typhoon class, or other ships we would use the slang term Boomers. It is a very small, very fast attack submarine and yes, we sometimes drop the ball and miss them... It doesn't mean New York city, or Miami is in any more danger than they would be by a rogue nuke packed into a container ship.
 
Russkies got `em a new submarine...
:eusa_eh:
New Russian nuclear submarine enters service
January 10, 2013 — The Russian navy on Thursday hoisted its flag on a new nuclear powered submarine intended to form a key part of the country's future nuclear deterrent. It is part of an ambitious weapons modernization effort that comes as the military is preparing for a naval exercise off Syria's shores.
Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said the war games in the Mediterranean will be the biggest such exercise since Soviet times and involve ships from all four Russian fleets. The maneuvers have been seen as a demonstration of Russian naval power and a show of support for an old ally, whom Moscow has shielded from international sanctions. Shoigu made the statement after commissioning the new Yury Dolgoruky nuclear submarine, which carries 16 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles. It is the first of a new series of Borei-class submarines that will replace older Soviet-built ships. Another submarine of the same type is currently undergoing sea trials and two others are now under construction.

President Vladimir Putin congratulated the Yuri Dolgoruky's crew during a conference call Thursday, hailing the ship as a "powerful weapon that will guarantee our security." "Submarines of that class will become an important element of sea-based strategic forces, a guarantor of global balance and security of Russia and its allies," Putin said. Commissioning of the new submarines is part of an ambitious arms modernization program that envisages spending over 20 trillion rubles ($657 billion) on new weapons through 2020.

Putin said Thursday that 4 trillion rubles ($132 billion) of that money will be spent on commissioning the new submarines and other navy ships. "Modernization of the navy is one of the most important priorities in our work to strengthen the armed forces," he said. Putin said the navy will commission the total of eight Borei-class ICBM nuclear submarines and eight nuclear submarines of a different Yasen class intended to hunt for enemy ships.

The construction of the Yuri Dolgoruky, named after a medieval Russian prince who founded Moscow, began in 1995 but was slowed down by a post-Soviet economic meltdown and it wasn't until 2009 when it finally entered sea trials. The submarine's commissioning was delayed further by problems with the new Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile intended to arm it.

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Stealthy sub gives Sweden the slip...

Surprise! That Russian Submarine in Stockholm Got Away From the Swedish Navy
OCTOBER 24, 2014 - After spending a week scouring the waters off Stockholm for a reportedly Russian submarine, the Swedish Navy has given up. On Friday, the country's military reported that the vessel (or vessels) in question have left the Stockholm archipelago and that the intelligence operation, as military officials had insisted on calling it, would be coming to an end.
It's a frustrating end to what has been a fascinating story. During the last week, Swedish vessels have searched in futility for a Russian submarine while sightings of the submarine have streamed in from the public. According to the Swedish military, there have been five credible sightings, all made by the public. It is all but certain that Swedish military intelligence have made their own observations, but officials have so far made no public comments about what Swedish sonar and other sensors have picked up underwater. In announcing the search's end, however, Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad said that the military had ruled out the presence of a large, more ordinary-sized submarine. The vessel, he said, had been spotted in area too shallow for a larger vessel to operate in, indicating that the submarine in question is of a smaller variety. "We say with confidence that this is not a larger, conventional submarine," Grenstad said. "Other alternatives will now be evaluated based on the considerable sensor and and analytic data that is available."

In launching the operation, the Swedish military said that its primary goal was to determine what had violated the country's territorial waters. Its objective was not to destroy its opponent -- though commanders said their ships were authorized to use lethal force if necessary -- but to learn more about it. Because they were operating in a highly populated and heavily trafficked area, the Swedish military conducted the operation with a remarkable degree of transparency. In carrying out that operation, the military has, at least according to its statements, been heavily reliant on the public's help. What evidence the Swedish military has collected on the submarine remains unknown, but it is all but certain that its military intelligence units know more than Grenstad is publicly letting on. On Friday, he said that Swedish forces had been able to follow the mystery vessel "through the public's and our own observations," one of his most concrete comments to date about whether Swedish defense systems have spotted the sub. Regardless, it's an anticlimactic end to what has been a captivating and often bizarre story. A fishing pensioner was confused for a Russian spy. The commander of the Swedish military called the incursion "fucked up." And the country's decommissioned anti-submarine warfare helicopters turned out to have been stashed away in a museum.

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Then again, the operation's anticlimactic conclusion should come as no surprise. During the 1980s, the Swedish navy engaged in a decade-long cat and mouse game with the Soviet military, which repeatedly sent underwater vessels and divers into Swedish waters. Over the course of a decade and hundreds of Soviet missions, the Swedish military failed to surface or destroy a single one of those submarines. The Swedish military captured just one Soviet submarine -- and only because it ran aground. Having seen its resources and funding rapidly dwindle, it's no surprise that today's Swedish military failed in the same way as its better-equipped Cold War counterpart. During the Cold War, especially in the 1980s, the Soviet navy carried out a series of aggressive submarine operations in Sweden's coastal waters. Those operations primarily targeted Swedish military operations and appeared to focus on gathering intelligence about its naval and intelligence infrastructure. The Soviets used a variety of tools to infiltrate Swedish defenses, including miniature submarines, combat divers, and tracked vehicles that could travel along the ocean floor.

The Soviet calculation appears to have been mostly military. Then, as now, Sweden was ostensibly neutral, but its military posture remained friendly toward the West and NATO. In the event of an all-out war between the Soviet Union and the West, Moscow's military planners doubted that Sweden would remain neutral. As a result, Swedish naval installations along the Baltic became objects of enormous intelligence value. Sweden tried and mostly failed to fend off these incursions. The Swedish navy went so far as to use depth charges in its coastal waters, but the Soviet subs kept coming. These incursions dropped off with the end of the Cold War, but with Russia's newly aggressive military posture toward the West, particularly against countries that during the Cold War served as a buffer between mother Russia and NATO, it should come as no surprise that Moscow's underwater adventures in the Stockholm archipelago have also made a comeback. So don't expect the Swedes to be catching submarines any time soon.

Surprise That Russian Submarine in Stockholm Got Away From the Swedish Navy
 
Yikes!...

Russia Building Nuclear-Armed Drone Submarine
September 8, 2015 | ‘Kanyon’ unmanned sub to target harbors, cities
Russia is building a drone submarine to deliver large-scale nuclear weapons against U.S. harbors and coastal cities, according to Pentagon officials. The developmental unmanned underwater vehicle, or UUV, when deployed, will be equipped with megaton-class warheads capable of blowing up key ports used by U.S. nuclear missile submarines, such as Kings Bay, Ga., and Puget Sound in Washington state. Details of the secret Russian nuclear UUV program remain closely held within the U.S. government. The Pentagon, however, has code-named the drone “Kanyon,” an indication that the weapon is a structured Russian arms program.

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The nuclear drone submarine is further evidence of what officials say is an aggressive strategic nuclear forces modernization under President Vladimir Putin. The building is taking place as the Obama administration has sought to reduce the role of nuclear arms in U.S. defenses and to rely on a smaller nuclear force for deterrence. Officials familiar with details of the Kanyon program said the weapon is envisioned as an autonomous submarine strike vehicle armed with a nuclear warhead ranging in size to “tens” of megatons in yield. A blast created by a nuclear weapon that size would create massive damage over wide areas.

A megaton is the equivalent of 1 million tons of TNT. On missiles, megaton warheads are called “city busters” designed to destroy entire metropolitan areas or to blast buried targets. An underwater megaton-class drone weapon would be used to knock out harbors and coastal regions, the officials said, declining to be named due to the sensitivity of the information. “This is an unmanned sub that will have a high-speed and long-distance capability,” said one official, who noted that the drone development is years away from a prototype and testing.

Russian nuclear buildup
 

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