Invest the Social Security Trust Fund in US Equities

[CrusaderFrank]

Had the Trust Fund been invested in the S&P in 1988, it would have grown from $80 Billion to well over $9 Trillion today.

What's More Lucrative: "The Apprentice" or the S&P 500?

 

[S.J.]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

 

[S.J.]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

 

[Votto]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

Cut spending? Why that is draconian. People will be dying in the streets man!

This reminds me of the big wig in Starbucks. He is a big Left winger, but he says that we cannot afford a single payer system because of the cost and the amount of debt the US is already in. He says that the numbers just don't add up, and ignoring the debt would be catastrophic to the country's future. He said he thought about running for President, but obviously with this stance he has no chance.

Fortunately, he is a business man and understands this issue, but how to sell it?

The GOP wins by cutting taxes and the DNC wins by giving free things away. This combination is what has led to the largest amount of debt in human history, so how to win an election without these two dangling carrots?

Any suggestions?

 

[S.J.]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

The answer is to get rid of the RINOs but that's a whole other challenge there. But if anybody can do it, it's Trump.

 

[caddo kid]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

LOL; Coolidges' policies directly contributed to the Great Depression

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

LOL; Coolidges' policies directly contributed to the Great Depression

LOL. No they didn't. You sound fucking ignorant. Maybe stay out of Economics altogether.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

Cut spending? Why that is draconian. People will be dying in the streets man!

This reminds me of the big wig in Starbucks. He is a big Left winger, but he says that we cannot afford a single payer system because of the cost and the amount of debt the US is already in. He says that the numbers just don't add up, and ignoring the debt would be catastrophic to the country's future. He said he thought about running for President, but obviously with this stance he has no chance.

Fortunately, he is a business man and understands this issue, but how to sell it?

The GOP wins by cutting taxes and the DNC wins by giving free things away. This combination is what has led to the largest amount of debt in human history, so how to win an election without these two dangling carrots?

Any suggestions?

Zero based budgeting for starters. We still have depression era agencies, programs and practices that are attached to outlays like a vampire squid and continue to drain the financial lifeblood away. For example, we don't need Public Housing or Public Education

 

[S.J.]

But do we really want politicians investing our money in the stock market? Investments would be driven by political objectives.

 

[DGS49]

It's difficult to say what such a huge infusion of money into the stock market would have caused, but it would have solved one unspoken PROBLEM that no politician is willing to address: If you die before collecting Social Security, then all your contributions go up in smoke. I will on Friday attend the funeral of a cousin/business owner, who died of cancer at age 62.

Her benefits from all the Medicare and SS taxes she paid over the years: Bupkis.

 

[caddo kid]

Dems would never be able to keep their hands off of it long enough for it to grow. It's being kept alive with borrowed money.

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

LOL; Coolidges' policies directly contributed to the Great Depression

LOL. No they didn't. You sound fucking ignorant. Maybe stay out of Economics altogether.

Coolidge failed to reign in 'margin trading' even at the behest of his economic advisers. Margin trading losses were one of the largest loss contributors during the October, 1929 crash. Coolidge also refused to approve regulations of brokers to keep them from selling shares for the purpose of driving up costs to lay investors.

You sound pretty fucking ignorant too.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, that's the whole point! We have to cut spending and invest the Trust Fund!

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

LOL; Coolidges' policies directly contributed to the Great Depression

LOL. No they didn't. You sound fucking ignorant. Maybe stay out of Economics altogether.

Coolidge failed to reign in 'margin trading' even at the behest of his economic advisers. Margin trading losses were one of the largest loss contributors during the October, 1929 crash. Coolidge also refused to approve regulations of brokers to keep them from selling shares for the purpose of driving up costs to lay investors.

You sound pretty fucking ignorant too.

LOL. Keep dreaming. Such a fucking economic Illiterate. You sound like Krugman.

Coolidge let the market reprice assets, liabilities and wages and ended a horrible post war recession in under 18 months and formed the base of the Roaring 20's. FDR couldn't hold Coolidge's jock strap.

 

[caddo kid]

Ronald Reagan called for a balanced budget amendment back in '81 but the big spenders in Congress (on both sides) rejected it. That's the only thing that could get us there but that train done left the station.

If Trump is able to get the RINO's to agree, he would be the first President since Coolidge to actually cut spending...yeah, I know, "get the RINO's to agree" it sounds ridiculous

LOL; Coolidges' policies directly contributed to the Great Depression

LOL. No they didn't. You sound fucking ignorant. Maybe stay out of Economics altogether.

Coolidge failed to reign in 'margin trading' even at the behest of his economic advisers. Margin trading losses were one of the largest loss contributors during the October, 1929 crash. Coolidge also refused to approve regulations of brokers to keep them from selling shares for the purpose of driving up costs to lay investors.

You sound pretty fucking ignorant too.

LOL. Keep dreaming. Such a fucking economic Illiterate. You sound like Krugman.

Coolidge let the market reprice assets, liabilities and wages and ended a horrible post war recession in under 18 months and formed the base of the Roaring 20's. FDR couldn't hold Coolidge's jock strap.

and you're likely the very dumbass that blames Obama for the Great Recession that was handed to Obama by GW Butt Head.

Yeah; you got it goin' on. Sure.

 

[Votto]

It's difficult to say what such a huge infusion of money into the stock market would have caused, but it would have solved one unspoken PROBLEM that no politician is willing to address: If you die before collecting Social Security, then all your contributions go up in smoke. I will on Friday attend the funeral of a cousin/business owner, who died of cancer at age 62.

Her benefits from all the Medicare and SS taxes she paid over the years: Bupkis.

Originally, the age to collect social security was set by FDR at the age most people die. That was the design.

Then as people began to live longer, the government got less and less of it.

It was designed so that politicians could steal from it, which they have done and continue to do.

 

[Hossfly]

Something to think about.

 

[eagle1462010]

They have no right to gamble with the tax payers money................should have never been put into the General Fund and replaced with IOU's to begin with.

 

[Toro]

TOTALLY agree.

SS is a shitshow of a plan.

The fund should be organized like a real pension plan.

We could increase returns AND lower taxes if we did this.