Intersting op/ed re BHO

[Skull Pilot]

would the messiah Barack really help our position in the Muslim world???

It seems not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

the Muslim world will probably not accept BHO because he turned his back on Mohamed

PS pardon the typo in the title

 

[jillian]

So, let me get this straight...

he is an Islamo-fascist because his middle name is Hussain and he has a nice suntan; but

he's not enough of an islamo-fascist to get us in good with the real islamofascists (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Tough being him.....

 

[Alpha1]

So, let me get this straight...

he is an Islamo-fascist because his middle name is Hussain and he has a nice suntan; but

Not being a mind reader...why would you think hes an Islamo-Fascist because his middle name is Hussain?

I know of no one that believes that; though I know its somehow negative campaigning to use his middle name on tv or even mention the fact....

he's not enough of an islamo-fascist to get us in good with the real islamofascists (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Tough being him.....

Yeah...it is tough being smeared with lies...

 

[Larkinn]

Not being a mind reader...why would you think hes an Islamo-Fascist because his middle name is Hussain?

I suspect she is parodying the views of some of the stupider members of the American electorate which individuals have been exploiting by mentioning his middle name.

I know of no one that believes that; though I know its somehow negative campaigning to use his middle name on tv or even mention the fact....

And why do you think people mention his middle name? Somehow its mentioned all over America and everyone knows it. I'm sure its just a coincidence that his middle name gets mentioned forever and ever. Do you even know John McCain's middle name? Not many people do because its not a way to innocently try to smear him by pretending he's a Muslim.

 

[Swamp Fox]

I don't care if Barack is a muslim or not. I do know that he is a socialist and THAT is unacceptable.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yeah...it is tough being smeared with lies...

i'll agree the islamo-facist remark was a little over the top, but you can't deny that BHO faces a cultural impasse with Muslims. the fact that the penalty for leaving islam has "moderated" from beheading by a cleric to mere stoning and hanging indicates that the religion of peace has a lot of work to do on tolerance. it seems that they would tolerate (as much as any muslim tolerates anything except islam) a person of any other faith more than they would a defector to christianity so why on earth would they tolerate BHO??

 

[Larkinn]

I don't care if Barack is a muslim or not. I do know that he is a socialist and THAT is unacceptable.

Going to keep spreading the lies, eh Swamp?

Tell me again where Obama wants to put the means of production into the hands of the workers?

 

[Larkinn]

i'll agree the islamo-facist remark was a little over the top, but you can't deny that BHO faces a cultural impasse with Muslims. the fact that the penalty for leaving islam has "moderated" from beheading by a cleric to mere stoning and hanging indicates that the religion of peace has a lot of work to do on tolerance. it seems that they would tolerate (as much as any muslim tolerates anything except islam) a person of any other faith more than they would a defector to christianity so why on earth would they tolerate BHO??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7271646.stm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/96760D5C-448D-46A0-BB99-91D3A2546AA9.htm

 

[Swamp Fox]

Definition of socialism
Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by collective ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history, due to this, socialism has been identified with communism mainly because the distribution of wealth is controlled as a whole and not individually.

Some socialists have championed the complete nationalization of the means of production, while social democrats have proposed selective nationalization of key industries within the framework of mixed economies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Some of Obama's plans
Labor
Obama will strengthen the ability of workers to organize unions. He will fight for passage of the Employee Free Choice Act. Obama will ensure that his labor appointees support workers' rights and will work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers. Obama will also increase the minimum wage and index it to inflation to ensure it rises every year.

Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures: Obama will create a fund to help people refinance their mortgages and provide comprehensive supports to innocent homeowners. The fund will be partially paid for by Obama's increased penalties on lenders who act irresponsibly and commit fraud.

Obama plans on acting like the collective and enforcing rules upon the system that he decides. In a free market economy, the market dictates what can be charged, anything that messes with that system causes it to fail. Look at France for a prime example of socialism fucking a country up.

 

[jillian]

Going to keep spreading the lies, eh Swamp?

Tell me again where Obama wants to put the means of production into the hands of the workers?

They can't help it. The need to prevaricate and spread hate is too great.

 

[Swamp Fox]

They can't help it. The need to prevaricate and spread hate is too great.

Whatever. I don't hate Obama, I hate socialists (and Lawyers)

 

[jillian]

Whatever. I don't hate Obama, I hate socialists (and Lawyers)

But we've already talked about why you hate lawyers, swamp thing.

 

[Larkinn]

Definition of socialism
Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by collective ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history, due to this, socialism has been identified with communism mainly because the distribution of wealth is controlled as a whole and not individually.

Some socialists have championed the complete nationalization of the means of production, while social democrats have proposed selective nationalization of key industries within the framework of mixed economies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Some of Obama's plans
Labor
Obama will strengthen the ability of workers to organize unions. He will fight for passage of the Employee Free Choice Act. Obama will ensure that his labor appointees support workers' rights and will work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers. Obama will also increase the minimum wage and index it to inflation to ensure it rises every year.

Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures: Obama will create a fund to help people refinance their mortgages and provide comprehensive supports to innocent homeowners. The fund will be partially paid for by Obama's increased penalties on lenders who act irresponsibly and commit fraud.

Obama plans on acting like the collective and enforcing rules upon the system that he decides. In a free market economy, the market dictates what can be charged, anything that messes with that system causes it to fail. Look at France for a prime example of socialism fucking a country up.

Thats a mix of socialism and capitalism. That doesn't make him a socialist. And pure capitalism is pretty much the stupidest thing ever especially coming from someone who works for the government

 

[Larkinn]

Whatever. I don't hate Obama, I hate socialists (and Lawyers)

Good then, so you've admitted that Obamas not a socialist

If you hate socialists and you don't hate Obama, then he can't be a socialist.

 

[Swamp Fox]

But we've already talked about why you hate lawyers, swamp thing.

Cause they love money more then justice?

 

[Swamp Fox]

Good then, so you've admitted that Obamas not a socialist

If you hate socialists and you don't hate Obama, then he can't be a socialist.

 

[jillian]

Cause they love money more then justice?

no, it's because they kick your butt all over the place in court.

 

[Larkinn]

If you can't understand how stupid and illogical your statement was, I can see why you would hate lawyers. I'm sure they love going against you though.

 

[AllieBaba]

I thought lawyers were supposed to represent people and justice. Not "kick their butts"??? Isn't the butt-kicking supposed to be of other lawyers, NOT regular joes?

 

[midcan5]

I don't care if Barack is a muslim or not. I do know that he is a socialist and THAT is unacceptable.

And you know that how? And what is a socialist, please don't look it up before giving us your unbiased, reasoned answer.

Edit - darn I hadn't read far enough you did give a simple dictionary definition that fit your preconceived notions.