CDZ Intergenerationality

phoenyx

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Alright, trying this subject again, hopefully it works this time. Wikipedia defines intergenerationality as "interaction between members of different generations". There is a lot of controversy over what types of interactions between these generations should take place and how. Most people strongly believe that minors (defined here as anyone below 18) should be taught by adult teachers regarding a wide variety of subjects. For anyone who has read the book or seen the movie called Lord of the flies, they will probably agree that children need guidance towards adulthood from adults. One subject that is sharply controversial, however, is sex ed. Specifically, what should be taught to minors regarding sex and sexuality is fiercely debated. Recently in Ontario, the province of Canada where I reside, Sex Ed has undergone a much needed revamping. I truly wish I had had the type of sex ed that is now part of the curriculum, it may well have saved me from making some mistakes that still have an effect on my life today. Details of Ontario's sex ed programming can be seen here:
New Sex Ed Ad Shows Curriculum Isn't Shying Away From Anything

There is also the issue of how we deal with the fact that, despite what parents may want, minors, especially minors who are teens, can and do interact sexually with others. While intergenerational sexual interactions have been strongly prohibited in most areas, sexual interactions between minors is a grey zone where frequently, more harm then good has been done in the name of "helping" minors deal with the sexual world. Judith Levine wrote a book on this, detailing some truly horrendous practices done in the name of "helping" minors, much like the spanish inquisition was allegedly done to better the lives of the populace, and I strongly recommend that people read it to see what is being done in their name in many areas in the U.S. A brief synopsis of the book can be seen here:
Harmful to Minors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd like to discuss 2 things here:
1- Do people here agree with the type of broad sexual education that is now being provided in Ontario?
2- How and when should adults and minors interact with each other outside of the teacher/student and parent/child relationship? In today's environment, some may say that no interactions between adults and children should occur outside of these 2 categories, and while I can see the reasoning behind this to some extent, I think that on the whole the drawbacks outweigh the benefits- the old saying "it takes a village to raise a child" is being severely curtailed. Below are 2 examples of this: in the first, a mother is arrested for letting her son walk to a park. In the second, a mother is jailed and her daughter taken away from her for leaving her daughter to play alone in a playground (I'm sure I'm not alone in noticing that the severity of the punishment may be linked to gender):
Mom arrested for letting 7-year-old walk to the park - CNN.com

Does Sending Your Child to a Playground Alone Warrant Arrest?

I think these incidents speak of a fear of 'stranger danger' that is causing more harm then good. I understand the idea of 'stranger danger', but as has been pointed out in this very forum, most dangers don't actually come from strangers, but from family and friends of all age groups, who have much more access to children then strangers do. Another issue is that despite the harsh punishments meted out to some parents for daring to leave their children to play in a public area alone, the government is frequently not keen in providing supervised areas for their children to play in. This, in a context where both parents frequently have little time to spend with their children. The idea that children should be relegated to not being able to go outside if their parents weren't around is something that was unheard of not too long ago. Some may argue that the dangers have increased, but I question whether this is really true, or whether it's more that our perceptions of danger have increased.

Finally, there is the online environment. I believe that the online environment can frequently be a good space for intergenerational interaction, especially if children are taught the dangers of taking it beyond said online environment. Children don't magically turn into adults that can make wise decisions at 18. Learning what decisions to make regarding interactions with others is something that takes a long time. Some (including myself) would say it's a learning process that only truly ends at the end of one's own life. I'm not alone in considering the online environment to be a good one for intergenerational interaction, particularly when it comes to the gaming world. Here is an article that has some ideas, although I think it doesn't even begin to get into games that have a lot of intergeneration interaction, such as World of Warcraft:
Online Gaming Platforms as Intergenerational Contact Zones (Intergenerational Program)

Alright, let's see if we can have a civilized discussion about these subjects :)...
 
If you trim about 2/3 of your cut and paste OP, I might bother to read it.
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

But it's ok if it's an adult woman doing the interacting -.-?
 
The only adults who want to interact with teens or children online, befriend them, earn their trust are the ones who are either socially retarded or have less than honorable intentions.
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
So I can't make an order at the restaurant to a 17 year old waitress?
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
So I can't make an order at the restaurant to a 17 year old waitress?

Is that a relationship?
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
So I can't make an order at the restaurant to a 17 year old waitress?

Is that a relationship?
Yes..
 
The only adults who want to interact with teens or children online, befriend them, earn their trust are the ones who are either socially retarded or have less than honorable intentions.

You have interacted with atleast one teen online as well. Does that mean that you believe you are also in this category?
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.

I don't care what you say. As someone who WAS a 15-year-old girl, I know better.
 
The only adults who want to interact with teens or children online, befriend them, earn their trust are the ones who are either socially retarded or have less than honorable intentions.

You have interacted with teens online as well. Does that mean that you believe you are also in this category?

I have never tried to start up a relationship with any teenagers. I don't share any interests with them because I am a normal adult person.
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
So I can't make an order at the restaurant to a 17 year old waitress?

Is that a relationship?
Yes..

No it isn't.
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.

I don't care what you say. As someone who WAS a 15-year-old girl, I know better.

Sigh. I guess the old line "Never argue with someone who knows they're right" applies here -.-...
 
No. There is no reason why an adult man should be interacting with young teen girls or boys, unless it is a parent, teacher or other family member.

This intergenerational stuff is nothing but a bunch of nonsense. If a child is missing a male or female figure in their lives, then it is up to their parent or guardian to fill the void, not some strange man on the internet.

I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.


Pedophile Used World of Warcraft to Meet Underage Girl
So I can't make an order at the restaurant to a 17 year old waitress?

Is that a relationship?
Yes..

No it isn't.
Sure it is, it's a business relationship......
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.

I don't care what you say. As someone who WAS a 15-year-old girl, I know better.

Sigh. I guess the old line "Never argue with someone who knows they're right" applies here -.-...
You'd think she was blonde.....What she has left out is using a word to describe what kind of relationship it tis....Like interpersonal relationship..........
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.

I don't care what you say. As someone who WAS a 15-year-old girl, I know better.

Sigh. I guess the old line "Never argue with someone who knows they're right" applies here -.-...

Exactly.
 
I was a 15-year-old girl. I know what these men who seek "relationships" with teen girls are all about.

I can't say that I was ever a 15 year old girl, but I was certainly once a 15 year old boy. I didn't have any problems with any relationships I had with adults, minimal as they were. I got online when I was 17, the internet wasn't really around for the general public at the time, but there were bulletin boards that I would spend a lot of time on, interacting with people of all ages, and I'm happy that I had that outlet of communication. I think I really needed it at the time, as I wasn't too good with making relationships with my peers in the physical world. I actually generally got along fairly well with my teachers though.


That link doesn't actually include the story- it links to the story, and the link is dead. I'm not saying that bad things can't happen, but bad things can happen in the physical world as well. There is an added degree of safety if the interaction is online. So long as minors are taught to to avoid taking certain online interactions with individuals into the physical world, that safety can remain in place.

I don't care what you say. As someone who WAS a 15-year-old girl, I know better.

Sigh. I guess the old line "Never argue with someone who knows they're right" applies here -.-...
You'd think she was blonde.....

This is the clean debate zone. I would suggest you stick to the subject.
 

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