Interesting to compare NFL treatment of Tebow vs. Capernick and compared media outrage

[ColonelAngus]

I am a Gator fan as as big of a Tebow fan as you can be (my dog's name is Tebow). I think he's the greatest college QB to play the game.

He caught lightning in a bottle that year with Denver, and in a perfect storm was able to lead one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL with two top flight all pro caliber wideouts. That was pure awesome for me, even if it was 50 minutes of ineptitude followed by a couple great plays to pull out a win IF the defense was playing dominantly.

In NY he couldn't beat out Mark Sanchez and Greg McElroy in practice.

In New England he was unable to beat out Ryan Mallett, and couldn't even complete 40% of his passes in New England with an offensive coach in Josh McDaniels who had everything to prove that he was right in picking Tebow up.

In Philly, he was unable to beat out Matt Barkley for a roster spot.

If you can't beat out backup QB's on NFL rosters, you don't last long in the NFL.


He was given 3 chances after Denver cut him loose.

Here's your mistake: You are using "facts." Here, this does you no good. At this place, what matters is partisan tribalism. You must adhere to loyalty to the clan, regardless of whether you are correct or not.

The partisan ideologues in this thread are convinced that everyone on earth is discriminating against Christians. Never mind that their sporting idol had the worst completion percentage of any qb in the NFL, had the throwing mechanics of a lego character, and couldn't make it with four different teams.

No, their messianic devotion is not the issue. It's their anti-empirical conspiratorial persecution complex that has convinced them that a lousy qb did not get a fair shake over five years of trying because everyone else hates Christians.

the bottom line here is that no team was sufficiently impressed with either of them to keep them a team, and that's as it should be

On field performance cant possibly be the reason....Cap is a victim!!!

 

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On field performance cant possibly be the reason....Cap is a victim!!!

I will easily say Kaep is able to throw the ball a lot better than Tebow at the NFL level. I mean Tebow's throwing ability was arguably the worst in the league. Kaep as a pure passer, is nearly as good as Gabbert, and I'd say his athleticism makes him better than Gabbert. Where his issue is, is that unless you want to build your offense around Kaepernick, he's not your QB. He's not going to be a guy you can put in to replace Drew Brees if he gets hurt and run that offense. He's not going to show Jared Goff how to read a defense as his backup when they are in meetings or after a drive. His only value is as the QB you build your offense around to suit his skillset, not a guy that comes in and learns the offense you already run. Which, being on the wrong side of 30 and with diminishing returns of late, is not something teams are willing to do.

 

[ColonelAngus]

On field performance cant possibly be the reason....Cap is a victim!!!

I will easily say Kaep is able to throw the ball a lot better than Tebow at the NFL level. I mean Tebow's throwing ability was arguably the worst in the league. Kaep as a pure passer, is nearly as good as Gabbert, and I'd say his athleticism makes him better than Gabbert. Where his issue is, is that unless you want to build your offense around Kaepernick, he's not your QB. He's not going to be a guy you can put in to replace Drew Brees if he gets hurt and run that offense. He's not going to show Jared Goff how to read a defense as his backup when they are in meetings or after a drive. His only value is as the QB you build your offense around to suit his skillset, not a guy that comes in and learns the offense you already run. Which, being on the wrong side of 30 and with diminishing returns of late, is not something teams are willing to do.

NFL owners would sign him if he could play at the level they expect.

No one signed Romo...Is it because the NFL hates white people?

 

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NFL owners would sign him if he could play at the level they expect.

No one signed Romo...Is it because the NFL hates white people?

Well that is a bit simplistic. Romo for example you would be trying to pry him away from a guaranteed multi-million dollar post playing career. My guess is it would take elite QB money to get him away and that's still just an IF he is even interested which doesn't seem to be the case.

Kaep has a few things. One is that he is part of the NFL's marketing arm, whether he wants to be or not. And his value there is negative for the most part. Most people don't have an issue with WHAT he supports but rather how he chooses to support it. Take that example to the extreme. Someone that rapes women to bring awareness to breast cancer. You don't have to tie the message with the action taken.

IF Kaepernick was a high level starter, I think he'd have a job. Likewise if he brought no baggage with him and was the definition of a "team guy" I think he could have a job. But because of where his skillset lies, that really limits his opportunities.

 

[ColonelAngus]

NFL owners would sign him if he could play at the level they expect.

No one signed Romo...Is it because the NFL hates white people?

Well that is a bit simplistic. Romo for example you would be trying to pry him away from a guaranteed multi-million dollar post playing career. My guess is it would take elite QB money to get him away and that's still just an IF he is even interested which doesn't seem to be the case.

Kaep has a few things. One is that he is part of the NFL's marketing arm, whether he wants to be or not. And his value there is negative for the most part. Most people don't have an issue with WHAT he supports but rather how he chooses to support it. Take that example to the extreme. Someone that rapes women to bring awareness to breast cancer. You don't have to tie the message with the action taken.

IF Kaepernick was a high level starter, I think he'd have a job. Likewise if he brought no baggage with him and was the definition of a "team guy" I think he could have a job. But because of where his skillset lies, that really limits his opportunities.

Of course it's simplistic. This is a message board, not a Ken Burns documentary series.

Cap is not a starter. It happens.

Russell Wilson seems to be doing fine.