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Rising rates will slow growth and we ll see a potential downfall in 2020...just in time for the election. The Fed has gone nuts.
But then if they keep things rising, it'll be worse for the country.
Why should politics come before people being able to live? Is that nuts?
You tell me. I think the rates are rising too quickly.
Are they rising too quickly for your interests, or are they rising too quickly for the interests of the country?
The problem with the US is that boom and bust is enriching the already rich and killing the poor.
To have the second largest recession ever at a time when people understand economics better than ever, is ridiculous. Surely recessions should be getting less bad, not worse.
It seems like it's an actual policy.
7 million people lost their homes in the last recession. Not one of them was one of the people who make the policies.
Some rich people gained billions of dollars speculating.
I live in America. They are rising too quickly for all of us.
Personally I think the most important numbers are 4 and 6. If the 10 year note goes to 4%, and mortgage rates go to 6% then that could be the bubble popper. Below that and I think we'll be OK.
Rising rates will slow growth and we ll see a potential downfall in 2020...just in time for the election. The Fed has gone nuts.
But then if they keep things rising, it'll be worse for the country.
Why should politics come before people being able to live? Is that nuts?
You tell me. I think the rates are rising too quickly.
Are they rising too quickly for your interests, or are they rising too quickly for the interests of the country?
The problem with the US is that boom and bust is enriching the already rich and killing the poor.
To have the second largest recession ever at a time when people understand economics better than ever, is ridiculous. Surely recessions should be getting less bad, not worse.
It seems like it's an actual policy.
7 million people lost their homes in the last recession. Not one of them was one of the people who make the policies.
Some rich people gained billions of dollars speculating.
I live in America. They are rising too quickly for all of us.
Really? How is that?
Which would you prefer? A massive recession brought about by policies designed for NOW, NOW, NOW, or a stifling of the economy so that the recession in the future isn't so bad?
Essentially you're talking about having a sugar rush, I'm talking about eating fruit.
We're having an adult conversation here, child.and Trump is the face of that ugly litter of shitty hound dogs
But then if they keep things rising, it'll be worse for the country.
Why should politics come before people being able to live? Is that nuts?
You tell me. I think the rates are rising too quickly.
Are they rising too quickly for your interests, or are they rising too quickly for the interests of the country?
The problem with the US is that boom and bust is enriching the already rich and killing the poor.
To have the second largest recession ever at a time when people understand economics better than ever, is ridiculous. Surely recessions should be getting less bad, not worse.
It seems like it's an actual policy.
7 million people lost their homes in the last recession. Not one of them was one of the people who make the policies.
Some rich people gained billions of dollars speculating.
I live in America. They are rising too quickly for all of us.
Really? How is that?
Which would you prefer? A massive recession brought about by policies designed for NOW, NOW, NOW, or a stifling of the economy so that the recession in the future isn't so bad?
Essentially you're talking about having a sugar rush, I'm talking about eating fruit.
I am Saying have them rise more slowly. Or borrowing will decline. As cost of debt goes up and eclipses growth you have a slowdown.
As long as it is slow, the economy should absorb it
Define slow
We're having an adult conversation here, child.and Trump is the face of that ugly litter of shitty hound dogs
You tell me. I think the rates are rising too quickly.
Are they rising too quickly for your interests, or are they rising too quickly for the interests of the country?
The problem with the US is that boom and bust is enriching the already rich and killing the poor.
To have the second largest recession ever at a time when people understand economics better than ever, is ridiculous. Surely recessions should be getting less bad, not worse.
It seems like it's an actual policy.
7 million people lost their homes in the last recession. Not one of them was one of the people who make the policies.
Some rich people gained billions of dollars speculating.
I live in America. They are rising too quickly for all of us.
Really? How is that?
Which would you prefer? A massive recession brought about by policies designed for NOW, NOW, NOW, or a stifling of the economy so that the recession in the future isn't so bad?
Essentially you're talking about having a sugar rush, I'm talking about eating fruit.
I am Saying have them rise more slowly. Or borrowing will decline. As cost of debt goes up and eclipses growth you have a slowdown.
And a slowdown is bad how?
It's going to happen at some point. You can have a gentle slowdown which allows people to prepare, allows people not to buy a house they won't be able to afford when the big recession hits.
Basically you can either have the slowdown now, or as part of a much larger recession.
The Chinese have been trying to slow their economy down for ages now. It's working.
Personally I think the most important numbers are 4 and 6. If the 10 year note goes to 4%, and mortgage rates go to 6% then that could be the bubble popper. Below that and I think we'll be OK.
As long as it is slow, the economy should absorb it
Define slow
Half percent every six months
Keep rates below 5 percent
By my calculation, even a 5 percent rate hike adds a trillion Federal Reserve Notes per year to the growing deficit. Or roughly thereabout. That's about 200 billion Federal Reserve Notes per 1 percent increase on the interest rates. Spending is up about 7 percent and revenue has gone up a whole 1 percent in this so-called booming economy, so this isn't helping the deficit.
They aren't going to have any control over it, and the market will have to respond to reflect the truth of the matter.
In the summer of 2016, the 10 year bond was sitting at 1.3 percent. Now it's over 3 percent. That's a big jump percentage wise. So, we've already been observing rate hikes, irrelevant of any prospective rate hikes to come.
This is pointed more toward the market folk, Toddster, Mack, and kind.
What say you? I'm calling a bust sooner than later, I think thta interest rate hikes are likely going to be the pin prick which finally does it.
Problem being that much of the monetary predicament we're in has, to a great extent, been caused by the people who'll be looked to, once again, to bail out the world: the Fed.....It's their fiat funny money that is the root of all the debt.And a slowdown is bad how?
It's going to happen at some point. You can have a gentle slowdown which allows people to prepare, allows people not to buy a house they won't be able to afford when the big recession hits.
Basically you can either have the slowdown now, or as part of a much larger recession.
The Chinese have been trying to slow their economy down for ages now. It's working.
Are they rising too quickly for your interests, or are they rising too quickly for the interests of the country?
The problem with the US is that boom and bust is enriching the already rich and killing the poor.
To have the second largest recession ever at a time when people understand economics better than ever, is ridiculous. Surely recessions should be getting less bad, not worse.
It seems like it's an actual policy.
7 million people lost their homes in the last recession. Not one of them was one of the people who make the policies.
Some rich people gained billions of dollars speculating.
I live in America. They are rising too quickly for all of us.
Really? How is that?
Which would you prefer? A massive recession brought about by policies designed for NOW, NOW, NOW, or a stifling of the economy so that the recession in the future isn't so bad?
Essentially you're talking about having a sugar rush, I'm talking about eating fruit.
I am Saying have them rise more slowly. Or borrowing will decline. As cost of debt goes up and eclipses growth you have a slowdown.
And a slowdown is bad how?
It's going to happen at some point. You can have a gentle slowdown which allows people to prepare, allows people not to buy a house they won't be able to afford when the big recession hits.
Basically you can either have the slowdown now, or as part of a much larger recession.
The Chinese have been trying to slow their economy down for ages now. It's working.
I think The increase should be slower. We are on the same page otherwise.
By my calculation, even a 5 percent rate hike adds a trillion Federal Reserve Notes per year to the growing deficit. Or roughly thereabout. That's about 200 billion Federal Reserve Notes per 1 percent increase on the interest rates. Spending is up about 7 percent and revenue has gone up a whole 1 percent in this so-called booming economy, so this isn't helping the deficit.
They aren't going to have any control over it, and the market will have to respond to reflect the truth of the matter.
In the summer of 2016, the 10 year bond was sitting at 1.3 percent. Now it's over 3 percent. That's a big jump percentage wise. So, we've already been observing rate hikes, irrelevant of any prospective rate hikes to come.
This is pointed more toward the market folk, Toddster, Mack, and kind.
What say you? I'm calling a bust sooner than later, I think thta interest rate hikes are likely going to be the pin prick which finally does it.
By my calculation, even a 5 percent rate hike adds a trillion Federal Reserve Notes per year to the growing deficit. Or roughly thereabout. That's about 200 billion Federal Reserve Notes per 1 percent increase on the interest rates. Spending is up about 7 percent and revenue has gone up a whole 1 percent in this so-called booming economy, so this isn't helping the deficit.
They aren't going to have any control over it, and the market will have to respond to reflect the truth of the matter.
In the summer of 2016, the 10 year bond was sitting at 1.3 percent. Now it's over 3 percent. That's a big jump percentage wise. So, we've already been observing rate hikes, irrelevant of any prospective rate hikes to come.
This is pointed more toward the market folk, Toddster, Mack, and kind.
What say you? I'm calling a bust sooner than later, I think thta interest rate hikes are likely going to be the pin prick which finally does it.
Rising rates slows money growth, not increases it.
Federal Reserve notes are not added to the deficit.
Those are the interest rate levels I think will be significant for the markets. JMO. In the real world everything is not about Trump, this thread is an example.Personally I think the most important numbers are 4 and 6. If the 10 year note goes to 4%, and mortgage rates go to 6% then that could be the bubble popper. Below that and I think we'll be OK.
go ahead & admit; your ass is getting chaffed at the thought of that bubble popping on Trump's watch.
well, it will; just give it a bit-O-time
This is foundational to any conversations about federal debt and the Fed.
It's only copiously footnoted, end noted, and its content is nearly identical to that of "Secrets of the Temple".That's a stupid, error filled book.
By my calculation, even a 5 percent rate hike adds a trillion Federal Reserve Notes per year to the growing deficit. Or roughly thereabout. That's about 200 billion Federal Reserve Notes per 1 percent increase on the interest rates. Spending is up about 7 percent and revenue has gone up a whole 1 percent in this so-called booming economy, so this isn't helping the deficit.
They aren't going to have any control over it, and the market will have to respond to reflect the truth of the matter.
In the summer of 2016, the 10 year bond was sitting at 1.3 percent. Now it's over 3 percent. That's a big jump percentage wise. So, we've already been observing rate hikes, irrelevant of any prospective rate hikes to come.
This is pointed more toward the market folk, Toddster, Mack, and kind.
What say you? I'm calling a bust sooner than later, I think thta interest rate hikes are likely going to be the pin prick which finally does it.
