Intel Dem: No reason for White House to defy subpoena unless Trump is 'guilty'

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    The link is from 2015. Those rule changes have been tested, in fact just this year the DOJ was ordered by the courts, to release more inconsequential emails related to the phony F & F investigation into Obama's and Holder's action and knowledge of the operation.
     
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    The arrest actions have not been tested and will almost certainly fail in the absence of full procedural framework. Otherwise, as I have already stated you might as well just have the house appoint the president and forget the national elections. Even a progressive judge will realize the danger in this direction.

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    The OP is such an uniformed crybaby.

     
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    I don't believe those were among the rules were changed. The SC ruled long ago that Congress does have that power to enforce it's legal subpoena's
     
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    And each time it was done a judge had to be consulted first....

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    The House should arrest people? I didn't know that the House was the executive branch now? But again, this wasn't a problem for the gestapo either. HEHEHE
     
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    The House can refer contempt cases to the DOJ for enforcement.

    The DOJ however is currently run by Billy the Bagman so the House simply adds those instances of Obstruction to the Impeachment articles
     
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    It's only been used two or three times in the entire history of the Congress. It's never been done without a judge's permission.

    Nowadays it would most likely result in a standoff between the Seargent at arm's and the secret service detail... For obvious reasons my money is on the secret service. At that point Congress would have to sue the executive branch for the right to arrest. Even a progressive judge is going to hesitate to grant them that authority without a full vote. Progressive judges can be morons but they are not complete idiots.

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    AAAAAAANNNNNND THE DOJ THEN GOES TO THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM FOR THE PAPERWORK. THEY MAY GET IT OR THEY MAY NOT GET IT.

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    Okay, so the House plays not only a little executive but also a little DOJ too? Barb Wire comes to mind?
     

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