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InfoWipes.com: Lemme sell you something
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The problem, of course, is Oliver is preaching to the choir.
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The problem, of course, is Oliver is preaching to the choir.
So is Alex Jones.
But what a sleazeball hypocrite, eh? I had no idea he was such a Billy Mays pathetic waste of human protoplasm. I hurt for his victims, although it's a harsh reality that they ought to know better.
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John Oliver nails it.
After Letterman, Stewart, and Colbert went off the air it was clear that sanity had lost three very important voices. Thankfully Colbert has come roaring back on his new show. But John Oliver and Samantha Bee have filled the gap left by Letterman and Stewart quite well. Noah not as much. John Oliver though does a slam dunk every show like Stewart did.
And watching Alex Jones it's clear he operates like a televangelist. Scare people to death and then sell them courage. And it is painful watching the sheep that are so easily manipulated by Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michail Sewage, Dimbaugh and the rest, but the sheep are sealed in the alt-right bubble. It's like you are standing at the edge of a deep pit and all these people are stuck in the pit and you offer to toss them down a line to get out of the pit but they refuse. They actually have been brainwashed to believe living in the pit is normal for them and anyone trying to pull them out of the pit is evil.
This is the state of things currently. Trump looks into the pit and spits on these people and they catch it on their tongues as if it is rain. Republicans also use this fear/savior model to raise money and scare people into voting for them. Just as televangelists do.
It is the grossest abuse of humans without actually doing physical bodily harm that there is. It is the equivalent of nonstop mental water-boarding to keep people thinking they are near death and they only have one savior to look to.
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John Oliver didn't mention, but could have, that Alex Jones is the 21st century incarnation of John Brinkley.
John R Brinkley (1885-1942) was a quack who posed as a doctor traveling around selling snake oil products, played right-hand man to another snake oil salesman named "Dr. Burke" hawing virility products, and eventually became infamous for goat gland operations, purportedly yet another male virility scam reminiscent of Jones hawking his "Super Male Vitality".
Brinkley was also known for inventing the infomercial, which like Jones he disseminated via pushing the envelope of the media of his time, building a Mexican "border blaster" radio station (XERA) unencumbered by US power regulations, powerful enough to reach all the way to Canada, to sell his quackery in order to avoid the United States legal encumbrances that grafting goat nuts onto people tended to attract (and after losing his own station license in Kansas).
And he also used his notoriety to run for Governor of Kansas, as a write-in and mostly to lift quack regulations off himself, and would have won that office if the state hadn't changed the rules. He even campaigned for the office via his Mexican radio signal, literally phoning it in to the station, a practice which is now illegal under the Brinkley Act.
Brinkley, like Jones, was a master of the publicity stunt and used emotional appeals to ego and shaming to sell his idiocy.
Brinkley is referenced in ZZ Top's "Heard it on the X":[56]
"We can all thank Doctor B who stepped across the line. With lots of watts he took control, the first one of its kind."
After amassing great wealth from his con artistry (no word on how many Rolex watches he had but "a dozen Cadillacs, a greenhouse, a foaming fountain garden surrounded by 8,000 bushes, exotic animals imported from the Galapagos Islands, and a swimming pool with a 10-foot (3.0 m) diving tower.[54]", then losing a medical license (from a diploma mill), losing his radio outlets, multiple lawsuits for fraud and wrongful deaths and declaring bankruptcy, Brinkley died penniless in a Texas hospital.
Alex Jones is halfway there.
John R Brinkley (1885-1942) was a quack who posed as a doctor traveling around selling snake oil products, played right-hand man to another snake oil salesman named "Dr. Burke" hawing virility products, and eventually became infamous for goat gland operations, purportedly yet another male virility scam reminiscent of Jones hawking his "Super Male Vitality".
Brinkley was also known for inventing the infomercial, which like Jones he disseminated via pushing the envelope of the media of his time, building a Mexican "border blaster" radio station (XERA) unencumbered by US power regulations, powerful enough to reach all the way to Canada, to sell his quackery in order to avoid the United States legal encumbrances that grafting goat nuts onto people tended to attract (and after losing his own station license in Kansas).
And he also used his notoriety to run for Governor of Kansas, as a write-in and mostly to lift quack regulations off himself, and would have won that office if the state hadn't changed the rules. He even campaigned for the office via his Mexican radio signal, literally phoning it in to the station, a practice which is now illegal under the Brinkley Act.
Brinkley, like Jones, was a master of the publicity stunt and used emotional appeals to ego and shaming to sell his idiocy.
Brinkley is referenced in ZZ Top's "Heard it on the X":[56]
"We can all thank Doctor B who stepped across the line. With lots of watts he took control, the first one of its kind."
After amassing great wealth from his con artistry (no word on how many Rolex watches he had but "a dozen Cadillacs, a greenhouse, a foaming fountain garden surrounded by 8,000 bushes, exotic animals imported from the Galapagos Islands, and a swimming pool with a 10-foot (3.0 m) diving tower.[54]", then losing a medical license (from a diploma mill), losing his radio outlets, multiple lawsuits for fraud and wrongful deaths and declaring bankruptcy, Brinkley died penniless in a Texas hospital.
Alex Jones is halfway there.
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John Oliver?
Who?
Who?
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How Alex Jones Uses Fear of the Government to Sell Diet Supplements
(Or, "You need to buy this because the government")
>> The Infowars Store first appeared online in 2006, when Jones started selling a few books and other products. It now sells an impressive range of products, from books with titles like Bloodlines of the Illuminati and Controlling the Human Mind, to doomsday prepping gear like "Survival Seed Vaults" and radiation-eliminating water bottles. But perhaps the most curious expansion of the Alex Jones brand is the line of supplements branded Infowars Life.
Some of the products are merely overpriced versions of supplements you could buy at nearly any natural foods store or pharmacy in the country, wrapped in fear-mongering marketing. On the Infowars site, the pages for Infowars Life products rarely provide scientific data or studies, often citing Jones's own stamp of approval as the only reason to purchase the product. The other sources often cited are simply links to episodes of Jones's show, usually with his go-to science guy, the naturopath and chiropractor Dr. Edward Group.
Dr. Edward Group, whose doctorate is actually in chiropractic medicine, is an alternative and holistic medical practitioner who runs the Global Healing Center. Quackwatch.com, a medical fraud watchdog site, lists the GHC in its "Questionable Organizations" list. Dr. Group has collected a number of degrees, but only in alternative medical areas and business and management programs. He also listed himself at one point as having earned a full Doctorate of Medicine from the Joseph LaFortune University School of Medicine—the same school that was sued by the Florida attorney general for defrauding nursing students who didn't realize the university wasn't accredited in the United States—but the degree was scrubbed from his website in mid-2015. <<
---- one example of paranoia peddling:
(Or, "You need to buy this because the government")
>> The Infowars Store first appeared online in 2006, when Jones started selling a few books and other products. It now sells an impressive range of products, from books with titles like Bloodlines of the Illuminati and Controlling the Human Mind, to doomsday prepping gear like "Survival Seed Vaults" and radiation-eliminating water bottles. But perhaps the most curious expansion of the Alex Jones brand is the line of supplements branded Infowars Life.
Some of the products are merely overpriced versions of supplements you could buy at nearly any natural foods store or pharmacy in the country, wrapped in fear-mongering marketing. On the Infowars site, the pages for Infowars Life products rarely provide scientific data or studies, often citing Jones's own stamp of approval as the only reason to purchase the product. The other sources often cited are simply links to episodes of Jones's show, usually with his go-to science guy, the naturopath and chiropractor Dr. Edward Group.
Dr. Edward Group, whose doctorate is actually in chiropractic medicine, is an alternative and holistic medical practitioner who runs the Global Healing Center. Quackwatch.com, a medical fraud watchdog site, lists the GHC in its "Questionable Organizations" list. Dr. Group has collected a number of degrees, but only in alternative medical areas and business and management programs. He also listed himself at one point as having earned a full Doctorate of Medicine from the Joseph LaFortune University School of Medicine—the same school that was sued by the Florida attorney general for defrauding nursing students who didn't realize the university wasn't accredited in the United States—but the degree was scrubbed from his website in mid-2015. <<
---- one example of paranoia peddling:
>> Infowars Life sales pitch #2: The government is suppressing this highly effective product because it competes with the pharmaceutical industry.
Jones also peddles "Silver Bullet," an oral colloidal silver solution that Jones calls the "survival silver [that] is the perfect fit for you and your family's routine and emergency supply."
There was a big crackdown on the medical claims for colloidal silver when it was popular in the 1990s for treating common ailments. Jones is careful not to make any specific medical claims on the Silver Bullet product page, merely saying it's "unique" and "has applications for both preparedness and regular use." But it's in his video, titled "Government Suppresses Ancient Natural Antibiotic," that he and Group make their claims about colloidal silver.
In 1999, the FDA released its "final rule" regarding over-the-counter drugs containing colloidal silver and silver salts. These products were to be marked as not generally regarded as safe for human consumption, because "FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions."
In the Silver Bullet video, Dr. Group says that the FDA raided his offices because he was selling colloidal silver; the reason the FDA has banned it, he claims, is that it's a "threat to the pharmaceutical companies and a threat to doctor's visits, because it works so good in the body." They also claim in the video that the FDA's banning of colloidal silver is "the government trying to shut down anybody that's producing silver, because they know how effective it is."
In the video, Group says that "colloidal silver "is an amazing anti-microbial compound." The controversy around it has more to do with how the product is made, he says. "If you make it with tap water, let's say, or if there's any salts in the water, you can end up with silver nitrates," which Group blames for health problems in people who have taken colloidal silver supplements.
Scientists have concluded, however, that colloidal silver does not have health benefits and could be dangerous. "We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products," wrote the authors of a 1996 Journal of Toxicology article. <<
InfoWars and Goop Sell the Exact Same Pseudoscientific BullshitJones also peddles "Silver Bullet," an oral colloidal silver solution that Jones calls the "survival silver [that] is the perfect fit for you and your family's routine and emergency supply."
There was a big crackdown on the medical claims for colloidal silver when it was popular in the 1990s for treating common ailments. Jones is careful not to make any specific medical claims on the Silver Bullet product page, merely saying it's "unique" and "has applications for both preparedness and regular use." But it's in his video, titled "Government Suppresses Ancient Natural Antibiotic," that he and Group make their claims about colloidal silver.
In 1999, the FDA released its "final rule" regarding over-the-counter drugs containing colloidal silver and silver salts. These products were to be marked as not generally regarded as safe for human consumption, because "FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions."
In the Silver Bullet video, Dr. Group says that the FDA raided his offices because he was selling colloidal silver; the reason the FDA has banned it, he claims, is that it's a "threat to the pharmaceutical companies and a threat to doctor's visits, because it works so good in the body." They also claim in the video that the FDA's banning of colloidal silver is "the government trying to shut down anybody that's producing silver, because they know how effective it is."
In the video, Group says that "colloidal silver "is an amazing anti-microbial compound." The controversy around it has more to do with how the product is made, he says. "If you make it with tap water, let's say, or if there's any salts in the water, you can end up with silver nitrates," which Group blames for health problems in people who have taken colloidal silver supplements.
Scientists have concluded, however, that colloidal silver does not have health benefits and could be dangerous. "We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products," wrote the authors of a 1996 Journal of Toxicology article. <<
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John Oliver?
Who?
No, John Brinkley.
And what an appropriate avatar for this thread.
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It is the grossest abuse of humans without actually doing physical bodily harm that there is. It is the equivalent of nonstop mental water-boarding to keep people thinking they are near death and they only have one savior to look to.
Recently encapsulated as "I alone can fix it".
I can't understand why that's not an immediate red flag regardless who says it.
Hmm... 1958.... Rump would have been the impressionable age of twelve years old. And we know how he's addicted to TV........
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Was John Oliver the guy who was tap dancing that Trump got the nomination because that guaranteed Hillary's election?
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Was John Oliver the guy who was tap dancing that Trump got the nomination because that guaranteed Hillary's election?
Oh no, that was thousands of Muslims on rooftops in Jersey City. Many people are seeing that on TV. Amazing, incredible people. Also they're rapists.
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It is the grossest abuse of humans without actually doing physical bodily harm that there is. It is the equivalent of nonstop mental water-boarding to keep people thinking they are near death and they only have one savior to look to.
Recently encapsulated as "I alone can fix it".
I can't understand why that's not an immediate red flag regardless who says it.
Hmm... 1958.... Rump would have been the impressionable age of twelve years old. And we know how he's addicted to TV........
No F%cking Way. A real tv show from 1958 with a character named Trump, that is in essence a snake oil salesman in the old west, that is running around trying to scare everyone and offering to build a wall to save them. You know he watched this. That is some creepy accurate shit and it captures his nature as well as that of Alex Jones of the worst rats that crawl along on their bellies and spend their lives scamming people. The kicker? Trump says "you can't prove a thing".
Here's the entire show:
"Trackdown carried the endorsement of both the State of Texas and the Texas Rangers, an accolade no other television series has procured. Some episodes were inspired by the files of the Rangers."
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John Oliver didn't mention, but could have, that Alex Jones is the 21st century incarnation of John Brinkley.
John R Brinkley (1885-1942) was a quack who posed as a doctor traveling around selling snake oil products, played right-hand man to another snake oil salesman named "Dr. Burke" hawing virility products, and eventually became infamous for goat gland operations, purportedly yet another male virility scam reminiscent of Jones hawking his "Super Male Vitality".
Brinkley was also known for inventing the infomercial, which like Jones he disseminated via pushing the envelope of the media of his time, building a Mexican "border blaster" radio station (XERA) unencumbered by US power regulations, powerful enough to reach all the way to Canada, to sell his quackery in order to avoid the United States legal encumbrances that grafting goat nuts onto people tended to attract (and after losing his own station license in Kansas).
And he also used his notoriety to run for Governor of Kansas, as a write-in and mostly to lift quack regulations off himself, and would have won that office if the state hadn't changed the rules. He even campaigned for the office via his Mexican radio signal, literally phoning it in to the station, a practice which is now illegal under the Brinkley Act.
Brinkley, like Jones, was a master of the publicity stunt and used emotional appeals to ego and shaming to sell his idiocy.
Brinkley is referenced in ZZ Top's "Heard it on the X":[56]
"We can all thank Doctor B who stepped across the line. With lots of watts he took control, the first one of its kind."
After amassing great wealth from his con artistry (no word on how many Rolex watches he had but "a dozen Cadillacs, a greenhouse, a foaming fountain garden surrounded by 8,000 bushes, exotic animals imported from the Galapagos Islands, and a swimming pool with a 10-foot (3.0 m) diving tower.[54]", then losing a medical license (from a diploma mill), losing his radio outlets, multiple lawsuits for fraud and wrongful deaths and declaring bankruptcy, Brinkley died penniless in a Texas hospital.
Alex Jones is halfway there.
Here's another guy (not that they're rare) in the Brinkley-Jones-Rump mold, playing on emotions and paranoia to sell bullshit ----
I really thought this was going to be Rump's running mate. Because snake oil sales works well in pairs.
But I guess being in prison would have put a damper on campaign rallies.
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It is the grossest abuse of humans without actually doing physical bodily harm that there is. It is the equivalent of nonstop mental water-boarding to keep people thinking they are near death and they only have one savior to look to.
Recently encapsulated as "I alone can fix it".
I can't understand why that's not an immediate red flag regardless who says it.
Hmm... 1958.... Rump would have been the impressionable age of twelve years old. And we know how he's addicted to TV........
No F%cking Way. A real tv show from 1958 with a character named Trump, that is in essence a snake oil salesman in the old west, that is running around trying to scare everyone and offering to build a wall to save them. You know he watched this. That is some creepy accurate shit and it captures his nature as well as that of Alex Jones of the worst rats that crawl along on their bellies and spend their lives scamming people. The kicker? Trump says "you can't prove a thing".
Here's the entire show:
Yep --- whoever the script writer was that named this guy had a gift of prescience.
I bet he deliberately cast a bald actor in order to avoid being sued.
Doncha love the way Trump says, "careful mister - I can sue you!"
Absolutely prescient.
And how much better off would we be right now if obedient drones had had the stones to ask the question the bystander in the TV show did--
"What are you selling, Mister?"
And how many victims of Brinkley, Jones, Trudeau and Rump could have been spared their money, dignity and even their lives....
"You don't sell products, benefits or solutions -- you sell feelings" --- Rump Fraud University playbook
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John Oliver nails it.
John Oliver is the guy who begged Trump to run, moron.
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John Oliver nails it.
John Oliver is the guy who begged Trump to run, moron.
Rump is the only person stupid enough to "beg Rump to run". And yes, he sure is a moron.
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