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Psychiatry: An Industry of Death Museum

Through rare historical and contemporary footage and interviews with more than 160 doctors, attorneys, educators, survivors and experts on the mental health industry and its abuses, this riveting documentary blazes the bright light of truth on the brutal pseudoscience and the multi-billion dollar fraud that is psychiatry.
 
Two schools of thought about mental illness. Should we put mental patients who obviously cannot care for themselves in a secure environment or should we let them live in cardboard boxes on the streets? Last I heard the ACLU and the justice dept opted for cardboard boxes.
 
Who the heck was it that used to start frothing at the mouth whenever anyone said that psychiatry wasn't a science?
 
two schools of thought about mental illness. Should we put mental patients who obviously cannot care for themselves in a secure environment or should we let them live in cardboard boxes on the streets? Last i heard the aclu and the justice dept opted for cardboard boxes.

how about we put the temporarily in a secure environment without chemically lobotomizing them and giving them life long movement disorders ?
 
From 1970 to 1992 he was a collaborating investigator, then Research Director, of the Soteria Project – Community Alternatives for the Treatment of Schizophrenia. In this role, he was instrumental in developing and researching an innovative, non-drug, non-hospital, home-like, residential treatment facility for acutely psychotic persons. The many publications from this experiment demonstrate both the feasibility and cost-effectiveness of its non-traditional approach to the treatment of persons newly identified as having schizophrenia. Continuing his career long interest in clinical research Dr. Mosher was (1990 – 1996) the Principal Investigator of a Center for Mental Health Services(CMHS) research/demonstration grant for the first study to compare clinical outcomes and costs of long term seriously mentally ill public-sector clients (he termed them “frequent flyers”) randomly assigned (with no psychopathology based exclusion criteria) to a residential alternative to hospitalization or the psychiatric ward of a local general hospital (the McPath project). The results of this study which comparable clinical effectiveness with a 40% cost saving favoring the alternative, have important acute care implications.

Loren Mosher Bio | Soteria
 
VA overwhelmed by war-related mental disorders...
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Returning veterans encounter VA mental health meltdown
5/28/2011 - Tales of 3 Marines underscore court decision blasting 'unchecked incompetence' at agency
Clay Hunt, a Marine sniper, served two combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. When he came home with a Purple Heart and post traumatic stress disorder, Hunt asked the Veterans Administration for help. But getting medical attention was a two-year struggle. On March 31, Hunt committed suicide in his Sugar Land, Texas, apartment. He was 28.

Philip Northcutt, 38, a fellow Marine, saw intense combat in Iraq in 2004 and was wounded. He was diagnosed with PTSD in the field, but he says he was merely given sleeping pills and an anti-depressant and told to keep fighting. When he came home, he struggled to adjust, spending time in jail and becoming homeless before he started receiving disability benefits more than four years later.

When Jordan Towers, 27, came home from Iraq in 2008, the Marine couldn’t escape the feeling that he was on another night patrol in Al Anbar province, and that each step might be his last. He angered easily and snapped at people for no reason. When he called the VA, he was told it would take three months to get an appointment. He was diagnosed with PTSD a year later, but six months after the diagnosis he is still waiting to hear whether his claim for disability benefits will be approved.

Three Marines, three cases where the U.S. government allegedly let down those who risked all for their country. The stories of Hunt, Northcutt and Towers are not unique. Similar allegations are leveled in a lawsuit against the Veterans Administration filed by two veterans groups that argue delays in the process of evaluating and treating returning veterans with mental health problems are systematic.

‘Unchecked incompetence'
 
They must be keep in separate rooms under the care of doctor rather than a street program.Actually that room treatment will create a healthy environment for the patients and we know that healthy environment is very essential for such a patients.
 
"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four people is suffering from a mental illness. Look at your 3 best friends. If they're ok, then it's you." Rita Mae Brown

Mental illness is like much of life on a continuum from perfectly sane, me, to totally crazy most other people. Having had a few crazy but brilliant aunts the topic is baffling and gets us back into the nature nurture debate. Lots of people need help though, even when the prognosis is not bio-chemical. I'm sure had my aunts been raised in a more secure hopeful and helpful environment they would have been fine, well maybe functionally crazy like most people. Their nuttiness had a lot to do with lifestyle and coping skills. Spend some time around parents and their children and you soon understand the oddities, insecurities, and just plan lunacy of people. Or consider depression or paranoia both prevalent today, and tell us where it comes from? If psychiatry is crazy so are all of us.

"Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness." Blaise Pascal
 
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possum pities the primates...
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Study: Chimps Used in Medical Research Show Signs of Post-Traumatic Stress
June 29, 2011 - Proposed US law would limit experimentation with the primates
Chimpanzees who've been subjected to invasive laboratory experiments show signs of Post-Traumatic Stress (PTSD) and other psychiatric disorders seen in traumatized humans, according to a new study by animal welfare activists. About 1,000 chimpanzees currently live in private and government-run laboratory facilities across the United States, where they are used as subjects for medical experiments. The study findings, published in the non-profit science journal PLoS ONE, focus new attention on a proposed U.S. law to ban the use of chimpanzees in some types of medical research.

Shedding light

The two-year study examined the cases of more than 350 chimpanzees including former lab chimps now living in sanctuaries and those in the wild. The study's lead author, Dr. Hope Ferdowsian, directs research policy for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a private group that promotes alternatives to the use of animals in research, education and training. Ferdowsian undertook the study primarily for ethical reasons. “Chimpanzees are taken from their mothers at a very early age, sometimes just after they’re born," she says. "Chimpanzees are also forced into isolation many times as a result of being used in Hepatitis and other protocols. So there are clear harms associated with the use of chimpanzees in research, and we wanted to look at exactly how chimpanzees are affected by all the harms that are inflicted upon them over the course of a lifetime.”

Negra's story

In collecting their data, Ferdowsian and her colleagues relied on feedback from the chimps’ caretakers, who - in many cases - had known the animals for years. One of the subjects was Negra, who spent 30 years as a test subject in biomedical research before being transferred to a chimp sanctuary. Negra's caretakers describe her as socially isolated and withdrawn, and she assumed a depressed, hunched posture, much like you’d see in humans with depression. “She walked around with a blanket over her head, really isolating herself from the rest of the world,” says Ferdowsian. Her study concludes that the behavioral changes Negra and many other chimps exhibited after their laboratory experiences were very similar to those seen in combat veterans suffering Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

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"The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four people is suffering from a mental illness. Look at your 3 best friends. If they're ok, then it's you." Rita Mae Brown

Mental illness is like much of life on a continuum from perfectly sane, me, to totally crazy most other people. Having had a few crazy but brilliant aunts the topic is baffling and gets us back into the nature nurture debate. Lots of people need help though, even when the prognosis is not bio-chemical. I'm sure had my aunts been raised in a more secure hopeful and helpful environment they would have been fine, well maybe functionally crazy like most people. Their nuttiness had a lot to do with lifestyle and coping skills. Spend some time around parents and their children and you soon understand the oddities, insecurities, and just plan lunacy of people. Or consider depression or paranoia both prevalent today, and tell us where it comes from? If psychiatry is crazy so are all of us.

"Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness." Blaise Pascal

Crazy, brilliant...ants?????
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