Indoctrination of Our Young

[dilloduck]

I never said Cavuto was consistently a right-wing liar. He does some interesting shows occassionally, and his focus is on money and business issues. But Cavuto does his Fox News duty and makes sure to get the talking points of the day into his show. The only show on Fox News that is nothing but pure right wing propaganda is the O'Lie, er sorry, O'Reilly Factor.

acludem

O'Really ? ( i crack myself up ) He must get to ya huh?

 

[acludem]

I don't watch shows where the host's primary response to those who attempt to articulate a point with which he disagrees is to tell them to shut up. That means I don't watch Bill O'Reilly. In fact the only political show I watch regularly is Real Time with Bill Maher. And yes, Maher is basically liberal, but he always has conservative guests who get to talk a lot, and he goes after everyone equally, and I've never once heard him tell any of his guests to shut up.

acludem

 

[dilloduck]

I don't watch shows where the host's primary response to those who attempt to articulate a point with which he disagrees is to tell them to shut up. That means I don't watch Bill O'Reilly. In fact the only political show I watch regularly is Real Time with Bill Maher. And yes, Maher is basically liberal, but he always has conservative guests who get to talk a lot, and he goes after everyone equally, and I've never once heard him tell any of his guests to shut up.

acludem

ahhhhhh so you have only heard about the show second-hand? O'Reilly does have a point that he wants to talk about and stops people from deflecting the issue. It's tiresome to watch people carry on about crap that doesn't even pertain to anything.

 

[nosarcasm]

I don't watch shows where the host's primary response to those who attempt to articulate a point with which he disagrees is to tell them to shut up. That means I don't watch Bill O'Reilly. In fact the only political show I watch regularly is Real Time with Bill Maher. And yes, Maher is basically liberal, but he always has conservative guests who get to talk a lot, and he goes after everyone equally, and I've never once heard him tell any of his guests to shut up.

acludem

Maher's show is all out leftist now that he is on HBO. While he invites conservative guests he abuses his position as moderator to ridicule them.

 

[Gunny]

I never said Cavuto was consistently a right-wing liar. He does some interesting shows occassionally, and his focus is on money and business issues. But Cavuto does his Fox News duty and makes sure to get the talking points of the day into his show. The only show on Fox News that is nothing but pure right wing propaganda is the O'Lie, er sorry, O'Reilly Factor.

acludem

O'Reilly is right-wing propaganda? You might want to run that by some Republicans. O'Reilly is "O'REILLY propaganda." His views are not necesarily right-wing. That's a liberal myth.

Just a for instance: I hardly consider it conservative that he thinks EVERY American should be compelled to drive an econo-box because HE thinks it's right, and HE does. Sounds rather socialist to me.

Have you EVER stopped to consider that many are not so much pro-right as they are anti-left? Your problem is you are so far to the left, you couldn't recognize moderation if it fell on you. You lack objectivity.

The Fox News Channel is no more far-right than CNN is far-left. James Carville can't open his mouth without twisting some truth and pointing a finger at the GOP.

Fox News is not far-right because it doesn't present your pessimistic, doom-n-gloom point of view and tries to actually present some objectivity.

You label yourself by your intolerance to opinions that conflict with yours. You point a finger in one direction when the truth is, you just want to indoctrinate everyone with YOUR beliefs.

 

[Adam's Apple]

Youth Indoctrination Update
by Walter E. Williams, Human Events
March 15, 2006

I've received numerous letters from all over our country saying that indoctrination at Overland High School is by no means unique. It's widespread, and much of it is anti-American. Where the indoctrination is not anti-American, it's an attack on family values and traditional standards of decency. The unique aspect of the Overland High School affair is the hard, undeniable recorded evidence. Without it, teachers and administrators might have lied, denied or misrepresented what was said. After all, it would be the word of a teenager against an adult professional. Today's microtechnology, might be just what the doctor ordered to put a stop to teachers using their position to indoctrinate our youth.

Preaching instead of teaching might go a long way toward explaining why in civics, math, reading, writing and geography, nearly a quarter of all students leave high school with academic skills that are "Below Basic," the category the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) uses for students unable to display even partial mastery of knowledge and skills fundamental for proficient work at their grade level. In science, 47 percent leave high school with skills Below Basic, and in American history, it's 57 percent. I'd like for Jay Bennish's supporters to explain how his indoctrination will help that.

for full article:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13197

 

[Nuc]

O'Reilly poses as a conservative, but as with so many neo-Con wimps nowadays as soon as someone disagrees with him or razzes him he starts crying like a baby and screaming "injustice".

:baby4:

 

[Adam's Apple]

Classroom Brainwashing
By Thomas Sowell
March 14, 2006

Governor Bill Owens of Colorado has cut through the cant about "free speech" and come to the defense of a 16-year-old high school student who tape-recorded his geography teacher using class time to rant against President Bush and compare him to Hitler.

The teacher's lawyer talks about First Amendment rights to free speech, but free speech has never meant speech free of consequences. Even aside from laws against libel or extortion, you can insult your boss or your spouse only at your own risk.

Unfortunately, there is much confusion about both free speech and academic freedom. At too many schools and colleges across the country, teachers feel free to use a captive audience to vent their politics when they are supposed to be teaching geography or math or other subjects.

While the public occasionally hears about weird rantings by some teacher or professor, what seldom gets any media attention is the far more pervasive classroom brainwashing by people whose views may not be so extreme, but are no less irrelevant to what they are being paid to teach. Some say teachers should give "both sides" -- but they should give neither side if it is off the subject.

for full article:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/thomassowell/2006/03/14/189664.html

 

[Mr.Conley]

O'Reilly poses as a conservative, but as with so many neo-Con wimps nowadays as soon as someone disagrees with him or razzes him he starts crying like a baby and screaming "injustice".

What do you have against Papa Bear?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

O'Reilly poses as a conservative, but as with so many neo-Con wimps nowadays as soon as someone disagrees with him or razzes him he starts crying like a baby and screaming "injustice".

:baby4:

If you think Oreilly's a neocon, you obviously don't watch the show.

 

[William Joyce]

One trick would be to tap into the naturally rebellious nature of youth and get them to reject their teachers' (and college professors') socialism. The kid who taped the "Bush is Hitler" teacher is a good example... excellent conservative pranksterism...

 

[Emmett]

is always going to lack something. No child left behind and mandating a "one for all" system means the gifted third grader is held to the same standards as another child who may not even speak English well. What happens to the gifted child while extra efforts are being spent to raise the skills of the other.


Teachers "preaching" their personal views to our children ARE a problem. I think the students should be doing the preaching and teachers should merely grade their work. If was a teacher, say of Political Science, and a student in my class came up with a view that was totally opposite of mine but appeared to have passion, be of the nature that clearly displayed that they had researched their idea and was communicated well, I would give them a good grade. I would present to them in general that there was other ideas that may disagree with their philosophy but I would NEVER convey my actual opinions. A teacher in my opinion loses face when they do this because it removes the mystique associated with a teacher in as much as I think it would be necessary to possess this to properly teach.

Teaching history is merely reading facts from a book or other form of media. Teaching Math is pretty obvious. Politically influenced classes are different. We want good teachers and we want them to be able to go to places necessary to stimulate the minds of young folks however we want them to most of all teach young folks how to do what is precious here in America. We want them to draw their own conclusions based on the facts presented by these mediums.

Comparing the President of the United States of America to Hitler is wrong! We have lost respect for our highest office because of our press and then again our highest office has done it's share at times. "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky".

The press needs to get the hell out of the education process!

Teachers need to get the hell out of the political process!