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This is meant for independents and 3rd party voters, and I mean actual independents not people who claim to be but "coincidentally" vote for only one party.
This is meant for independents and 3rd party voters, and I mean actual independents not people who claim to be but "coincidentally" vote for only one party.
So you are talking about 2,000 people or so?
This is meant for independents and 3rd party voters, and I mean actual independents not people who claim to be but "coincidentally" vote for only one party.
So you are talking about 2,000 people or so?
From what I've seen this board seems to have more independents and 3rd party voters than others I've been on or even compared to society.
So you are talking about 2,000 people or so?
From what I've seen this board seems to have more independents and 3rd party voters than others I've been on or even compared to society.
Well ones that claim to be anyway.
Those claiming to be libertarian and independents rose dramatically during Bush's second term.
From what I've seen this board seems to have more independents and 3rd party voters than others I've been on or even compared to society.
Well ones that claim to be anyway.
Those claiming to be libertarian and independents rose dramatically during Bush's second term.
That's understandable, if people voted for him on what he campaigned on (low taxes, low spending, fiscal conservatism, small gov't etc) then learned that wasn't the case it would make sense to jump ship. Especially since all the republicans in congress went along with everything he did, almost entirely unchallenged for most of his presidency.
I feel the same will happen with a lot of democrats, they probably won't become libertarians but once they realize how big of a warmonger Obama is they'll probably be ready to jump ship.
From what I've seen this board seems to have more independents and 3rd party voters than others I've been on or even compared to society.
Well ones that claim to be anyway.
Those claiming to be libertarian and independents rose dramatically during Bush's second term.
That's understandable, if people voted for him on what he campaigned on (low taxes, low spending, fiscal conservatism, small gov't etc) then learned that wasn't the case it would make sense to jump ship. Especially since all the republicans in congress went along with everything he did, almost entirely unchallenged for most of his presidency.
I feel the same will happen with a lot of democrats, they probably won't become libertarians but once they realize how big of a warmonger Obama is they'll probably be ready to jump ship.
People have a bad tendancy to turn a blind eye to their own party, justifying it as "If the other guy is doing it!" or "If that's what it takes to win." It's kinda hillarious.
But God help you if you point out hypocricy. At that point you automatically become a "Stupid Con!" or a "Commie Lib!" depending on which set of contradictions you draw attention to.
ahh but few realize it really makes virtually no difference. Congress and the presidency is are all in the corporatist party now.
I was all set to vote for a republican for US senator, then Randy Paulie got the nomination..
I consider myself to be an Indepedent. I mean seriously, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with all factions of either the Republican or Demcoratic agendas, or better yet, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with what each elected official from those parties does and/or says?
I consider myself to be an Indepedent. I mean seriously, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with all factions of either the Republican or Demcoratic agendas, or better yet, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with what each elected official from those parties does and/or says?
Probably almost none, but how many are open about the flaws in the party is the real question.
I consider myself to be an Indepedent. I mean seriously, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with all factions of either the Republican or Demcoratic agendas, or better yet, how many people on this board agree 100% of the time with what each elected official from those parties does and/or says?
Probably almost none, but how many are open about the flaws in the party is the real question.
Not many. Most of the time, when a party partisan is mad about how their party is running things they'll actively seek out stuff the other party is doing that is worse. That's pretty much the MO of Right Wing Radio right there. Bush was trampling all over the small government parts of his own party, and instead of calling him out Rush would spend 45 minutes of his 50 or so harping on how badly the Democrats were behaving. Sorry to tell you, but most of Bush's worst excesses happened while the GOP had majorities in the Senate and House.
That isn't limited to the GOP side of the fence either. When the DNC had the House, Senate, and Oval office you'd see folks calling out what the GOP was proposing. Sorry to tell them, but the GOP had an ice cube's chance in hell of actually passing anything in those days. The GOP's plan of action literally did not matter, and yet it was all the DNC partisans could talk about.
Yeah that's what I hear from democrats after nothing got done when they had 2 years of full power, how I translate it is "we didn't have time to fix what bush screwed up, so we either did nothing good or made it worse."
And dead on about right wing radio, the blame for democrats is the same whether they have power or not. On a side note I used to listen to him on my way to work, Rush used to trash drug users and drug dealers like they were the scum of the earth. You NEVER hear him even talk about the subject anymore, and I wonder how many times he was high from drugs he got from a drug dealer while saying those things.