Independence Day

One can see why the Soviet Union quickly dropped Marx and communism after the Revolution and never attempted to practice communism again. Also why no nation has practiced Marxian communism.

The reason the soviet union collapsed was because communism, socialism, central planning do not work. And contrary to your bullshit assertions and the end of the USSR there was such a huge black market that even the KGB could not control it.

Neither the free market nor its cousin, the black market will be fooled. put that in your Marxist pipe and smoke it.

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Yes, in the transistion from capitalism to communism, the proletariat does take over the state and enters the scientific socialist period. That period readys the people for communism. Once entered into communism the state is no longer needed and abolished.


HUH?

You attended NYC Public Schools, right?

Mr fucktard, sir:

and who the fucketh will enforce the communist rules and send Libertarians to the Gulag?

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According to Marx, rules and so forth will not be needed, even such things as money may not be needed. One can see why the Soviet Union quickly dropped Marx and communism after the Revolution and never attempted to practice communism again. Also why no nation has practiced Marxian communism.

Marx isn't as smart as people make out.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ9myHhpS9s]Monty Python Communist Quiz sketch - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Stupid question, you could have used the topic of independence day to patriotically call for any number of good and decent things or brought up something we can all be proud of but you dump the same kind of retarded loaded question this board is full of every day of the week, why do you hate America so much?

I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

The government's goal is dependency. They are fighting pride and self-reliance. Whatever is good an decent about this country is gone. We can remember what it was like but we will never have those days again.
 
It's ironic that the right wing, who buys into the cognitive dissonant ideology sold by Madison Avenue, are complaining we're not a free country.

We are an independent nation, and those corporatists are the one that want us to increase our dependence on their internationalism. It's the corporatists who sell the right wing that those politicians who are in their pockets are decreasing dependency.

Idiot.

Both parties have sold their souls

I choose the lesser of the evils, ass monkey.
 
Stupid question, you could have used the topic of independence day to patriotically call for any number of good and decent things or brought up something we can all be proud of but you dump the same kind of retarded loaded question this board is full of every day of the week, why do you hate America so much?

Even on July 4th, your insincerity and hypocrisy shines bright. If you are such a "patriot", then why not change your avatar for a day, and PROVE you have the ability to be "non-partisan" for at least ONE day of the year?
 
Stupid question, you could have used the topic of independence day to patriotically call for any number of good and decent things or brought up something we can all be proud of but you dump the same kind of retarded loaded question this board is full of every day of the week, why do you hate America so much?

I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

The government's goal is dependency. They are fighting pride and self-reliance. Whatever is good an decent about this country is gone. We can remember what it was like but we will never have those days again.

The corporatist goal is total control and domination. Isn't that what the real Tea Party was about?
 
One can see why the Soviet Union quickly dropped Marx and communism after the Revolution and never attempted to practice communism again. Also why no nation has practiced Marxian communism.

The reason the soviet union collapsed was because communism, socialism, central planning do not work. And contrary to your bullshit assertions and the end of the USSR there was such a huge black market that even the KGB could not control.

Neither the free market nor its cousin, the black market will be fooled. put that in your Marxist pipe and smoke it.

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But, as with all theories it had to be tried.
 
I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

The government's goal is dependency. They are fighting pride and self-reliance. Whatever is good an decent about this country is gone. We can remember what it was like but we will never have those days again.

The corporatist goal is total control and domination. Isn't that what the real Tea Party was about?

Only in the wildly Delusional Fantasies of Liberals such as yourself.
 
It's ironic that the right wing, who buys into the cognitive dissonant ideology sold by Madison Avenue, are complaining we're not a free country.

We are an independent nation, and those corporatists are the one that want us to increase our dependence on their internationalism. It's the corporatists who sell the right wing that those politicians who are in their pockets are decreasing dependency.

Idiot.

Both parties have sold their souls

I choose the lesser of the evils, ass monkey.
You choose the party that promises to give you things you haven't earned.
 
I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

The government's goal is dependency. They are fighting pride and self-reliance. Whatever is good an decent about this country is gone. We can remember what it was like but we will never have those days again.

The corporatist goal is total control and domination. Isn't that what the real Tea Party was about?
No. And there is no rational way to make that claim.

So that explains why you made it.
 
One can see why the Soviet Union quickly dropped Marx and communism after the Revolution and never attempted to practice communism again. Also why no nation has practiced Marxian communism.

The reason the soviet union collapsed was because communism, socialism, central planning do not work. And contrary to your bullshit assertions and the end of the USSR there was such a huge black market that even the KGB could not control.

Neither the free market nor its cousin, the black market will be fooled. put that in your Marxist pipe and smoke it.

.

But, as with all theories it had to be tried.
The amazing part is there are profoundly ignorant people who want to try it again, despite it being a proven historical failure.
 
Got a NRA membership application in the mail yesterday. I don't even own a gun, but after the Supreme Court botched the Obamacare ruling, I'm thinking the second amendment is really my only true protection from tyranny. Yep, I'll be sending the check out on payday.
 
Stupid question, you could have used the topic of independence day to patriotically call for any number of good and decent things or brought up something we can all be proud of but you dump the same kind of retarded loaded question this board is full of every day of the week, why do you hate America so much?

I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

Ridiculous thread is bad and you should feel bad.

Perfect day to discuss the difference between independence and dependence. All the more appropriate as the federal government has started down the slippery slope to telling you what type of medical care you can ask for and receive.
 
If you know of a better place I suggest that you shut your computer down, pack your bag and get the #$%^ out. I will buy your ticket. Even with our current unrest we are still a great country. I know a lot of you have been to other countries like Cancum and perhaps Canada and see how they live. Go check out Africa, the Middle East or maybe rural China and come back and let know which one you would chose of the USA.

Accepting mediocracy is not the answer, its the problem.
 
On this day perhaps we should give up our political bravado of how independent of government we are. We are all dependent on government. If citizens were not dependent on government there would be no need for government. But on this day we should recognize that we constituted our government to assure that we have life, liberty and able to pursue happiness. We are all dependent on government, different dependencies perhaps, but dependent. It's the other guys dependency we don't like.

A government's purpose is to preserve freedom and nothing more.
 
I don't actually. I hate the fact that so many of my countrymen are eager to piss away the best parts of our nation in exchange for a pat on the head.

The government's goal is dependency. They are fighting pride and self-reliance. Whatever is good an decent about this country is gone. We can remember what it was like but we will never have those days again.

The corporatist goal is total control and domination. Isn't that what the real Tea Party was about?

Corporatism isn't, necessarily, totalitarian. But it leans that way because it disregards the rule of law and holds group rights supreme over individual rights. The Tea Party doesn't really address corporatism directly, being mostly focused on reducing the tax burden and, as a secondary concern, limiting government in general.
 

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