Increased Porn= less sexual crimes

[Dr Gregg]

Perhaps this thread should get moved to society or religion since it really has nothing to do with politics since no legislation exist to ban your masterbation habits.

then request it, see if I care. perhaps you can get a life

Face it you vermin, you're mentally ill and a pervert. Research Ted Bundy and his explanation for why he raped and killed all those Women.

Answer = Pornograhy!

~BH

To a simpleteon like yourself I can see why you think that, but in reality, he was mentally ill. Pornography didn't suddenly make him desire to kill. If you had a brain or actually used it, you would know that correlation does not equal causation. So people who are sexual deviants, serial killers, etc have an impulse to do these things, and just because they hap;pen to view porn, doesn't mean porn is the causel

HOw the hell did humans get as far as we have with so many stupid people out there

 

[Dr Gregg]

These statistics do not back up the claim in the OP.

Statistics

* Internet Pornography
* Child Pornography
* Child Sexual Abuse
* Mobile Pornography
* Online Sexual Predators
* Youth
* Parents: The First Line of Defense
* Adults
* Christians and Sexual Brokenness
* Human Sex Trafficking
* Public Opinion
* Miscellaneous

Wow, somne stupid "but what about the children" website, over an actual peer reviewed study

But hey, to simpletons if its on the internet it must be true.

 

[Dr Gregg]

Some of you are so dishonest. Finding some examples of disturbed individuals who have problems and then relating it to "porn is the cause" is just complete simple minded bullshit. Millions and millions of people view porn and we don't have that many sexual deviants, rapists, serial killers, etc. If porn really was the cause, that would be the case. MOst of us would be fucked up.

 

[uscitizen]

"HOw the hell did humans get as far as we have with so many stupid people out there"

Aside from technology have we really progressed very far?
Tech knowledge is easially transferred forward to the next generation.
Being a good human starts at birth for every one of us. And every generation starts over at ground zero.

 

[editec]

As much as the prudes and religious folks that claim that porn is bad and leads to crimes, studies show otherwise. But I know the deep seeded reason why the ultra religious people hate sexuality, its because they believe they should feel guilty for having sexual thoughts, which are completely normal, and quite strong, biological phenomenon.


Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

But what do the data say? Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged “obscene&#8221 and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.

Read more: Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

Surprisingly few studies have linked the availability of porn in any society with antisocial behaviors or sex crimes. Among those studies none have found a causal relationship and very few have even found one positive correlation.

Porn is banned from prisons.

That probably explains why the prisoners are so chaste and non violent, too.

 

[jillian]

These sound like some very negative outcomes for habitual porn viewers, wouldn't you agree?

why would you view the addict as the rule?

 

[Dr Gregg]

These sound like some very negative outcomes for habitual porn viewers, wouldn't you agree?

why would you view the addict as the rule?

exactly, according to that kind of logic, we should ban religious because we point out how it leads to violent and fucked up behavior. Or ban broccoli because a serial killer really liked them, must be the cause of becoming a serial killer. Hey, lets ban everything since there must of been some criminal who used it, so it must be the cause.

But I know, its the typical dishonesty from people that try to turn their negative opinion of something they do'nt like, disagree with or what not, and try to make up things in argument.

 

[Gunny]

As much as the prudes and religious folks that claim that porn is bad and leads to crimes, studies show otherwise. But I know the deep seeded reason why the ultra religious people hate sexuality, its because they believe they should feel guilty for having sexual thoughts, which are completely normal, and quite strong, biological phenomenon.


Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

But what do the data say? Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged “obscene”) and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.

Read more: Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

Surprisingly few studies have linked the availability of porn in any society with antisocial behaviors or sex crimes. Among those studies none have found a causal relationship and very few have even found one positive correlation.

As much as the prudes and religious folks that claim that porn is bad and leads to crimes, studies show otherwise. But I know the deep seeded reason why the ultra religious people hate sexuality, its because they believe they should feel guilty for having sexual thoughts, which are completely normal, and quite strong, biological phenomenon.


Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

If they did isn't it there right to believe that? No one is ever said that you can't fuck anything you don't want to or not look at any porn that you wish to look at. That is just their belief and they are entitled to have that and they are entitled to preech it to others just as you are entitled to exploit pan-sexualism to promote your communist war against the burgouise.

Liberalism defends the free choice of someone to make whatever decision over their own lives that they want and that includes being exploited by endorsing pan-sexualism to promote a war against the burgouise or the other extreme of only having sex after marriage. Liberalism defends the freedom of all to be whatever they want in any aspect of their lives so you, supposingly* being a liberal, should be aware of that.

BTW, I don't actually think that porn causes more crime but even if it did it still should not stop people from looking at the porn they want. Its like saying reading certain hate group literture causes more crime. Well it might but you still have the right to read whatever you want and believe whatever you want.

Please show me where I said they couldn't or shouldn't believe that, nor state their beliefs? I'm just showing that their lame argument of "but it leads to crime" is faulty, which you often here. Instead of simply stating their real reasons for not wanting it, they just don't like it, which frankly wouldn't hold any water, so that's where the lies come in

What a lame, contrived argument. Nowhere in the article does it say anything about religion or religious people.

Nor does the article do anything more than tapdance around the fact pornography itself degrades women.

 

[Dr Gregg]

As much as the prudes and religious folks that claim that porn is bad and leads to crimes, studies show otherwise. But I know the deep seeded reason why the ultra religious people hate sexuality, its because they believe they should feel guilty for having sexual thoughts, which are completely normal, and quite strong, biological phenomenon.


Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

But what do the data say? Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged “obscene&#8221 and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.

Read more: Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences Porn: Good for us? - The Scientist - Magazine of the Life Sciences

If they did isn't it there right to believe that? No one is ever said that you can't fuck anything you don't want to or not look at any porn that you wish to look at. That is just their belief and they are entitled to have that and they are entitled to preech it to others just as you are entitled to exploit pan-sexualism to promote your communist war against the burgouise.

Liberalism defends the free choice of someone to make whatever decision over their own lives that they want and that includes being exploited by endorsing pan-sexualism to promote a war against the burgouise or the other extreme of only having sex after marriage. Liberalism defends the freedom of all to be whatever they want in any aspect of their lives so you, supposingly* being a liberal, should be aware of that.

BTW, I don't actually think that porn causes more crime but even if it did it still should not stop people from looking at the porn they want. Its like saying reading certain hate group literture causes more crime. Well it might but you still have the right to read whatever you want and believe whatever you want.

Please show me where I said they couldn't or shouldn't believe that, nor state their beliefs? I'm just showing that their lame argument of "but it leads to crime" is faulty, which you often here. Instead of simply stating their real reasons for not wanting it, they just don't like it, which frankly wouldn't hold any water, so that's where the lies come in

What a lame, contrived argument. Nowhere in the article does it say anything about religion or religious people.

Nor does the article do anything more than tapdance around the fact pornography itself degrades women.

Did I say it was in the article? That was just my added opinion. Many of the people that scream the most about sex and pornography and want it banned, off TV, etc do it because they feel guilty about having sexual thoughts, so best if they can avoid it by not seeing it.

Ultra religious people that have the fundy interpretation of the bible do indeed feel guilty by normal, sexual thoughts. It's basic psychology, like how many of the most rabid anti-gay people are gay themselves.

See, that's how intelligent people argue, provide reasoning not just spout opinion with nothing in support

 

[Christopher]

These sound like some very negative outcomes for habitual porn viewers, wouldn't you agree?

why would you view the addict as the rule?

No, that is not what I am saying and my apologies if I came across that way. I was talking about what it does in general to those who are habitual/prolonged viewers of pornography, which is what the summary of the study provided. The summary of evidence I provided still stands and I think there are plenty of “bad” things that come as a result of habitual and prolonged viewing of pornography. Again, here is what it does, according to the study I provided:

…fosters a preference for pornography featuring less common forms of sexuality, including forms that entail some degree of pseudoviolence or violence…distorts perceptions of sexuality…fosters presumptions of popularity for all less common sexual practices and of health risks from sexual hypoactivity…promotes increased acceptance of pre- and extramarital sexuality…increases distrust among intimates…spawns doubts about the value of marriage…breeds discontent with the physical appearance and the sexual performance of intimate partners…promotes insensitivity toward victims of sexual violence…trivializes rape as a criminal offense…promotes men's propensity for forcing particular sexual acts on reluctant female partners…increases men's propensity for committing rape… risk of becoming sexually callous and violent…

Do you think any of these are good results from prolonged or habitual viewing of pornography?

 

[Christopher]

These sound like some very negative outcomes for habitual porn viewers, wouldn't you agree?

why would you view the addict as the rule?

exactly, according to that kind of logic, we should ban religious because we point out how it leads to violent and fucked up behavior. Or ban broccoli because a serial killer really liked them, must be the cause of becoming a serial killer. Hey, lets ban everything since there must of been some criminal who used it, so it must be the cause.

But I know, its the typical dishonesty from people that try to turn their negative opinion of something they do'nt like, disagree with or what not, and try to make up things in argument.

The argument you seemed to be presenting was that porn in general is "good" for us; that was the title of the article. I just provided evidence, with a credible study which shows the "bad" results from those who have prolonged exposure to pornography or who are habitual porn viewers. If you do not want to accept it, that is fine.

Please show me where I was just "making up" the results from the study I provided.

 

[eagleseven]

…fosters a preference for pornography featuring less common forms of sexuality, including forms that entail some degree of pseudoviolence or violence…distorts perceptions of sexuality…fosters presumptions of popularity for all less common sexual practices and of health risks from sexual hypoactivity…promotes increased acceptance of pre- and extramarital sexuality…increases distrust among intimates…spawns doubts about the value of marriage…breeds discontent with the physical appearance and the sexual performance of intimate partners…promotes insensitivity toward victims of sexual violence…trivializes rape as a criminal offense…promotes men's propensity for forcing particular sexual acts on reluctant female partners…increases men's propensity for committing rape… risk of becoming sexually callous and violent…

Do you think any of these are good results from prolonged or habitual viewing of pornography?

You forgot the hairy palms...

 

[eagleseven]

Nor does the article do anything more than tapdance around the fact pornography itself degrades women.

Then watch gay porn instead.

 

[Dr Gregg]

why would you view the addict as the rule?

exactly, according to that kind of logic, we should ban religious because we point out how it leads to violent and fucked up behavior. Or ban broccoli because a serial killer really liked them, must be the cause of becoming a serial killer. Hey, lets ban everything since there must of been some criminal who used it, so it must be the cause.

But I know, its the typical dishonesty from people that try to turn their negative opinion of something they do'nt like, disagree with or what not, and try to make up things in argument.

The argument you seemed to be presenting was that porn in general is "good" for us; that was the title of the article. I just provided evidence, with a credible study which shows the "bad" results from those who have prolonged exposure to pornography or who are habitual porn viewers. If you do not want to accept it, that is fine.

Please show me where I was just "making up" the results from the study I provided.

It's just lame that anybody would blame porn for violence and sexual deviant behavior, which many who don't like it try to do, since that behavior has been around for all of mankind before there was porn. Sexual deviant people (they have a disorder that give them these sick impulses) may view and abuse porn, but its not porn itself that is causing that behavior.

And "abuse" is different than normal use also, and most people don't "abuse" it and those that do tend to have other issues at hand. Any abuse of anything can have bad effects so it fails to support that porn makes people bad. Same can be said for alcohol. Many people don't abuse it and thus its not bad. Someone who abuses it do bad things, as there are other issues at play when it comes to abuse.

 

[saveliberty]

Perhaps Dr Gregg should go the direction that by taking deviant behavior and making it main stream, it is no longer deviant. In his mind the problem is solved. Simple solution for a simple guy.

 

[Dr Gregg]

Perhaps Dr Gregg should go the direction that by taking deviant behavior and making it main stream, it is no longer deviant. In his mind the problem is solved. Simple solution for a simple guy.

You post a response with no inteliigence and nothing to do with the thread, and you say I'm simple?

 

[saveliberty]

Would someone take the guy with the fake doctor title aside and explain the thread topic?

 

[Old Rocks]

How many others of you want the Right to jack off in public?

Are you speaking of Beck, Limpbaugh, or Hannity?

 

[Old Rocks]

Just wait until techology evolves to a realistic "touch" interface.

Most men won't leave the house at that point.

And women are that differant

 

[thomas78]

This makes me think of the movie "Surrogates" where everyone's at home plugged into a machine and living their lives through robots.