In Politics and Society: Is it Intolerant to be Intolerant of Intolerance?

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    Yeah, it's well known that things have improved in the US since 1965.

    "The best available indicator of long-term trends in violence is the murder rate. An American's chance of being murdered was relatively low in the 1950s and early 1960s. It doubled between 1964 and 1974..."

    http://prospect.org/article/violent-crime-increasing#main-content
     
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    A poem written by a socialist immigrant in 1883 represents a tenet of America? LOL
     
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    Are there any human beings you right wingers don't hate other than WASPS?
     
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    Have they really? I look back and while there were problems, it seems that people were happier prior to 1963. We didn't seem to have people who were so dedicated to being "offended" and were more willing to work together.
     
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    Throughout the 1800s, 5 million Germans came into America over 100 years. Now each year, we let in 1 million(almost all Latin American and Asian immigrants) immigrants alone.

    Yea, exactly the same thing, lol.
     
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    I don't mind anyone coming here from anywhere...everyone deserves a better life. I just object to those who don't come here legally. One of the first things we learn in school is that cutting in line is not fair.
     
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    I do mind, I don't think we need to take in massive amounts of immigrants. One, our economy can't afford it, two, it isn't part of our political tradition of limited primarily european immigration the founders envisioned, and three, the more of the third world we bring in, the more like the third world we will become.

    Illegal Immigration is a problem, but just a slice of it.
     
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    Is there really much difference between the Politics section and the flame zone? :confused:

    This is one of the first threads in Politics I have posted in in quite a while precisely because almost every thread in Politics seems to automatically turn into a partisan flame war....
     
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    Totally FALSE. Immigrants are among the MOST likely to start a business and hire people.

    Immigration Benefits The U.S., So Let's Legalize All Work - Forbes

    Attempting to fence off the country is no answer to anything. It would be difficult for a generally free society with extensive borders to close out the rest of the world. Worse, to be effective such controls as ID cards, citizenship checks, workplace raids, employer sanctions, and more would undermine domestic liberties.

    Anyway, immigration benefits the U.S. The economic advantages are significant. Many immigrants are natural entrepreneurs, establishing companies, creating jobs, and driving innovation. Well-educated and highly-trained foreign workers are inventive and productive. Expanded work forces increase business flexibility, allowing companies to quickly respond to changing demands. Larger labor forces also encourage specialization. Labor productivity rises as companies adjust to larger work forces and invest in employees.


    Can immigration speed the economic recovery? - CBS News

    (MoneyWatch) Cities and towns across the U.S. struggling to recover from the Great Recession could benefit from a key force for economic renewal: Immigrants.

    Foreign-born residents, who now account for one in eight Americans, are boosting job growth, raising home prices and more broadly helping to revive thousands of economically distressed communities, according to a new report by the Americas Society/Council of the Americas and the Partnership for a New American Economy.

    "Immigrants are a key part of the American success story at the community level, revitalizing local areas and creating economic growth and jobs for U.S.-born workers," the report said.

    The organizations, whose membership consists mostly of business leaders and city mayors, advocate changing the nation's immigration laws by, among other things, making it easier for high-skilled workers to obtain visas and expanding "guest worker" programs. They are among the bevy of interest groups, from high-tech and agricultural giants to grass-roots advocates, lobbying on immigration reform.

    The study, prepared for the groups by Duke public policy and economics professor Jacob Vigdor, assessed the economic impact of immigration on more than 3,000 U.S. counties between 1970 and 2010.

    Immigration both creates and saves jobs, the business groups contend. That is especially true for the beaten down manufacturing sector, which has eroded for decades as corporations exported millions of jobs to low-wage countries around the globe and as workers have been replaced by technology.

    Immigrants contribute economically by earning and spending money, which benefits local businesses, and by generating tax revenue. The organizations also say immigrants provide companies with a pool of workers whose skills are in short supply in the broader U.S. population. That ready source of domestic labor means employers are less likely to ship jobs abroad.

    "For every 1,000 immigrants who live in a county, 46 manufacturing jobs are created or preserved," said Jeremy Robbins, director of the Partnership for a New American Economy, in an interview, adding that communities with higher rates of immigration retain more manufacturing jobs than areas with fewer immigrants
     
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