In NJ schools, gossip could land you in jail...

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/n...jersey-schools-on-spot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

    You have no idea how angry I am about this. I will have students this year who will be sent out of class EVERY SINGLE DAY under the letter of this law.

    "Girls are dumb". "Books are gay" "She's a slut". "I was on facebook last night and so and so wrote..."

    I'm not risking my license. No more judgment calls. Let the parents and cops deal with it. :evil:
     
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    there is no discipline in america....simple as that......adult kids suing parents for bad mothering.....i see kids in public acting out and think someone smack the mal outta that youngin before it gets too wild......but that hardly ever happens...i honestly watch my dogs better than most people watch their kids.....at the market the other night....i watch this little girl about 4 ish....run between two parked cars nearly into the road...before her mother said a word. i was terrified the rest of the market...the kid was still running around..
     
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    Liberals have spent 50 years teaching the masses that NO ONE is responsible. Getting rid of accountability, in some cases getting rid of grades all together for fear of harming the little darlings feelings. Removing certain games , removing Gym, removing certain play ground items. And the Liberals are the ones totally opposed to TORT REFORM. Liberal lawyers LOVE big awards that have no bearing on reality. Cases that are ignorant at the go.

    That disgraced Liberal Edwards won a HUGE case in NC where he told the Jury what a fetus was thinking. He got the courts and a jury to declare that certain birth defects were not defects at all but some how Malpractice.

    Your buddies the Liberals are solely to blame for the " It wasn't my fault or responsibility" game.
     
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    Kids are meaner today than ever. There's no doubt about that. They are disrespectful to their teachers and peers and have no "filters" on what they say. However, we have an educational crisis is this country as well. Teachers should be TEACHING; not involving themselves in campus gossip and social media outside of school. Honestly, I could spend all day addressing that nonsense. That's not what I get paid for, and that's not what parents want. By taking away our judgment and discretion in handling minor squabbles, they are essentially taking away a student's right to an education.

    BTW - this law was an over-reaction to the Rutgers "bullycide", and it turns out that kid had a host of problems. As any suicide victim usually does. NJ already had a practical anti-bullying law.
     
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    The problem stems from the current trend of laws for schools/children being designed to "zero tolerance" standards. The reason for this is that zero tolerance laws are similar to statutory crimes, as there is no mitigating factors in a statutory crime. This allows the school officals to just say "hey, its the law" and have no responsibility to use thier own judgement in a situation. The reason for that is it removes any ability of the parents of the child so judged to sue, as the law is ironclad. Once you bring in the judgement of the offical into question, it becomes something that can be litigated.

    So to eliminate the chance of any litigation, they go with an "all or nothing" law instead of relying on the judgement of the teachers and the administratiors. Its the lazy way out.
     
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    The Anti-Bullying bill was signed into law by a Republican, doofus.
     
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    I can't disagree with you here.

    But I'm curious, why would you let that kind of talk go on in your class to begin with?
     
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    Ravi - you have no idea. I have a group of knuckleheads that have been together since Middle School. They call each other "chubby" "Mexican" "Homo" etc. It's all in jest, but it makes me nuts. I have reported some of the over the top crap to the office, but my students are classified "handicapped". There's a whole special set of laws dealing with that special group. I trust my judgment when it comes to "joking" or "hurtfulness". I will now defer that judgment to the "specialists".

    And it is def. about the lawsuits. But wait til the lawsuits come in over suspending the "handicapped".
     
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    We revel in nastiness and dog eat dogism economics and politics and then wonder why our children are so nasty?
     
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    Let's not forget the "war on fat kids." No one gets bullied more.

    I was just chatting on fb with our "bullying coordinator" I told her I'll be putting her on speed dial. 17 years of working with "disaffected youth" and now I have to defer to someone who doesn't even know my kids. That sounds like a effective plan. Not.
     

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