In Germany, land of strict gun control,18 year old had pistol without a permit...psychiatric care..

[2aguy]

Yes.......Germany has all of the anti gun laws that anti gun activists here want....outside of a confiscation like Britain and Australia.....and this 18 year old got his hands on a pistol....without a permit......again, in a country with every single anti-gun law the anti gunners here want...

Munich gunman 'obsessed with mass shootings' - BBC News

He had a 9mm Glock pistol and 300 bullets in his rucksack.

Police do not yet know how the weapon was acquired, but said he had no permit for it and the serial number had been obliterated.

They are investigating whether he may have lured his victims through a Facebook invitation to the McDonald's restaurant where he launched his attack on Friday evening.


Hey.....he was even under psychiatric care.............

Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.

 

[Manonthestreet]

once more we are being sold the mental defective super shooter who maneuvers like a spec op and shoots the same.....three shootings in 3 weeks all declared to have beeen perped by 3 shooters each and all suddenly reduced to just one........first two I can believe maybe after reading their background ....this one I dont know

 

[Fenton Lum]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

 

[2aguy]

How badly did German gun control fail.......

Munich: Background Checks, Gun Bans, Licensing Requirements Fail Again

He used a Glock 17, according to CNN. This Glock 17 is a semiautomatic handgun, and the “semiautomatic” designation makes it very difficult to acquire in Germany.

Yet....an 18 year old was able to get it though he was not old enough, didn't have permit, didn't go through the extreme training requirements...would have failed the background check because of his psychiatric treatment..........

The University of Sydney describes Germany’s gun laws as “restrictive.” A semiautomatic pistol can only be legally acquired with “special authorization.” Gaining such authorization begins with passing “a background check which considers criminal, mental health, and addition records.” But that is only the beginning. As The New York Times summarizes, the process of acquiring the gun occurs “over the course of several months.” Include the issuance of “a certificate that proves you know how to handle both the weapon and its ammunition. You must prove that you can store it safely, in a place to which only you, as the owner, have access,” among other things.

But none of these things–background checks, mental checks, gun bans, licensing or certificate requirements, storage rules, and more–proved a hindrance to Sonboly and the attack he carried out.

 

[2aguy]

Anti gunners are wrong...they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate....they aren't just wrong...they are grossly clueless about how to actually stop gun violence.....and because of their fixation on normal gun owners...the people who are not shooting other people, they are allowing innocent people to die.

 

[OldLady]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

 

[DarkFury]

"
UK Daily Mail Today, as the fresh young faces of his victims started to emerge, Angela Merkel said Germany mourned ‘with a heavy heart’. Seven of the nine he killed were teenagers and the youngest was just 13 years old.
Three of his victims were aged just 14, and 27 people were injured. The victims were 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 45, but the ages of the rest have not yet been confirmed.
Sonboly had stockpiled ammunition and obtained the gun illegally, although police are still trying to find out how he got it. Police today confirmed that the teenager – whose father is a taxi driver and mother works in German department store Karstadt – hacked a young woman’s Facebook account in a bid to lure children to McDonald’s, where he lay in wait. "

GERMAN GOVERNMENT MEDIA SPIN ON MUNICH TERRORIST: “Allahu Akbar’-shouting baby-faced Muslim killer was depressed from years of bullying”

 

[Fenton Lum]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I don't think you have an important point, sorry.

 

[DarkFury]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

The size to compare is not fair NOR the population count. You are requesting fair but requiring bias standards.

 

[Toro]

Yes.......Germany has all of the anti gun laws that anti gun activists here want....outside of a confiscation like Britain and Australia.....and this 18 year old got his hands on a pistol....without a permit......again, in a country with every single anti-gun law the anti gunners here want...

Munich gunman 'obsessed with mass shootings' - BBC News

He had a 9mm Glock pistol and 300 bullets in his rucksack.

Police do not yet know how the weapon was acquired, but said he had no permit for it and the serial number had been obliterated.

They are investigating whether he may have lured his victims through a Facebook invitation to the McDonald's restaurant where he launched his attack on Friday evening.


Hey.....he was even under psychiatric care.............

Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.

You don't understand math.

This is clear from your millions of posts on guns.

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

Hmmm...do you think mothers in that McDonalds would have liked to have had a gun that day? They may have stopped the killer cold....it was another gun free zone.....and the 18 year old kid, who could not legally own a gun for multiple reasons...couldn't pass the background check, too young, couldn't own the semi auto pistol......and yet he was the only one there with a gun.........and he murdered children........

German gun control laws did not stop the attack....you are wrong.........I'll say it again...you are wrong.

I don't have to run the gun death rate in Germany vs. the U.S. because it isn't about guns....it is about culture......you twits don't understand that....

It is obvious that there are legal and illegal guns in Germany......so that means...for you anti gunners, that criminals can and do get them easily.....no matter how intense, and extreme their gun control laws are for normal German citizens.......

They get them when they want or need them....they simply do not use them to commit murder........

Our thugs commit murder because of cultural reasons...our non gun murder rate is higher than other countries total murder rate....so you are just plain wrong....

Tell us how gun control works when fully automatic weapons are status symbols in France....where they are completely illegal.........explain that.....

Explain why it is that Britain confiscated their guns....and the gun crime rate stayed the same....and went up 4% last year...and their cops are finding more and more fully automatic weapons on the streets, they are arming more of their cops with guns...and they are sending armed patrols into neighborhoods with high levels of gun violence.....

Please explain how that shows that gun control laws that keep normal people from owning guns actually work?

And you can't.

 

[2aguy]

Yes.......Germany has all of the anti gun laws that anti gun activists here want....outside of a confiscation like Britain and Australia.....and this 18 year old got his hands on a pistol....without a permit......again, in a country with every single anti-gun law the anti gunners here want...

Munich gunman 'obsessed with mass shootings' - BBC News

He had a 9mm Glock pistol and 300 bullets in his rucksack.

Police do not yet know how the weapon was acquired, but said he had no permit for it and the serial number had been obliterated.

They are investigating whether he may have lured his victims through a Facebook invitation to the McDonald's restaurant where he launched his attack on Friday evening.


Hey.....he was even under psychiatric care.............

Police say the Munich-born gunman had been in psychiatric care, receiving treatment for depression.

You don't understand math.

This is clear from your millions of posts on guns.

Wow...deep....did you rouse yourself from your drug addled stupor to type that?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

The size to compare is not fair NOR the population count. You are requesting fair but requiring bias standards.

That can all be normalized, you don't understand research much do ya.

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

it's not my vision....it was all over the news Friday.........

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

Look it up.......if you got rid of all guns in the United States.......our murder rate would still be higher than Germany's.....our non gun murder rate is higher than their total murder rate......

Our criminals commit murder more often than criminals in Germany do.....it is thug culture, not guns that are the issue.....try to get that into your brain....

 

[Andylusion]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

Yeah, maybe someone could have shot back, and prevented a mass shooting. But thankfully left-wingers like you prevented such a horrific thing from happening. Instead they all died like good little sheep. Another victory for gun control.

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

Here you go........Germany had about 800 murders total around 2005 with my quick search.....

From this site...I counted all non-gun murder in the United States........

Broker Version 9.4

Total......4,145


It isn't the guns.....

 

[2aguy]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I don't think you have an important point, sorry.

I know....you are a left winger....you can't think rationally......it probably isn't your fault....your brain didn't develop the ability to understand facts, the truth, reality or the difference between Right and Wrong and Good and Evil.......

Your opinion just isn't intelligent......you just can't help it....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Clearly this would not have happened if Germany had no gun laws.

It happened with all of their gun control laws........that is the important point...

So German women can't have the same pistol this kid got illegally.....to defend themselves.....and all those gun control laws failed to stop this kid...but the woman being attacked on the street......those gun control laws worked like a charm......they kept that woman from stopping the attack.....

I absolutely detest your vision of a world where a woman taking her kid to McDonalds has to carry a gun. If you were honest, you would run the true statistics of the gun death rate in Germany compared to the United States. But you won't, because gun control works.

I've taken my children out to eat thousands of times and I NEVER needed a gun. And gun control doesn't work. Criminals have never followed the law. And trying to compare the stats of a country with only a fraction of the population we do is ignorant at best. You've become too old, to indoctrinated & too gullible to be in this conversation in any meaningful capacity