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As you know, but it doesn't seem to sink into your brain....your tiny brain....Britain always had a low murder rate compared to the U.S....
As you know, but it doesn't seem to sink into your brain....your tiny brain....Britain always had a low murder rate compared to the U.S....
Yes, because they've ALWAYS limited who can own a gun. They didn't pervert a militia amendment into "Any nut who wants a machine gun can have one!"
I'm glad this is finally clear for you.
Less guns = less murder. Mostly because beating someone to death with your fists is a lot more work than shooting someone.
48 gun murders a year vs. 11,000..... We're just plain doing it wrong.
Moron, our knife murder number is higher than their entire murder number..
you are an idiot and with you failed understanding of crime and culture,
As you know, but it doesn't seem to sink into your brain....your tiny brain....Britain always had a low murder rate compared to the U.S....
Yes, because they've ALWAYS limited who can own a gun. They didn't pervert a militia amendment into "Any nut who wants a machine gun can have one!"
I'm glad this is finally clear for you.
Less guns = less murder. Mostly because beating someone to death with your fists is a lot more work than shooting someone.
48 gun murders a year vs. 11,000..... We're just plain doing it wrong.
Moron, our knife murder number is higher than their entire murder number..
Well, that sounds like a good reason for knife control. I'm betting the Brits don't sell swords and bayonets openly, either.
you are an idiot and with you failed understanding of crime and culture,
Um, guy, we have pretty much the same culture as the UK and Canada, but they don't have anywhere near our crime rates... now how is that?
They also don't have as many guns or prisons as we do.
please explain how our gun murder rate dropped 49% as more Americans own and carry guns
Gunpolicy.orgplease explain how our gun murder rate dropped 49% as more Americans own and carry guns
It didn't... it's has stayed pretty consistent and has gone up in the last two years...
2016: 14,415
2015: 12,974
2014: 10,945
2013: 11,208
2012: 11,622
2011: 11,068
2010: 11,078
2009: 11,493.
Guns in the United States — Firearms, gun law and gun control
Whoops.
Gunpolicy.org
LMAO
*sigh* Here we go again, pity 2aguy didn't know this was a gangland hit, the "victim" had been shot in 2010 and later arrested himself for possessing a firearm.
So, your point is, even in a country where private firearms are banned, we shouldn't be surprised if criminals have free access to them?
Private firearms are not banned over here, do keep up. Criminals have always had access to firearms, which they use mainly to protect themselves from other criminals with guns; it's something they picked up from America. The rest of us don't care that much if criminals shoot each other.
Then why is it so wrong for non-criminals to have firearms with which to defend themselves?
Because a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy.
So it makes about as much since as owning your own rabid pit bull because your neighbor has a rabid pit bull guarding his crack house.
And you have solutions?
Oh yeah your default position is to blame everyone else for your failings
Not really... I just recognize that Capitalism is a shit sandwich for most people... even if they think they are doing well.
But to the point, yes, there are solutions.. invest in education, create job programs and opportunties in poor areas, and the big one.
Get rid of the fucking guns...
Feel free to move the fuck outBritain did that, and their gun crime and violent crime against British citizens is going through the roof
48 gun homicides a year compared to our 11,000?
Um... yeah, I think I'll take what's behind Door #1, Monty.
*sigh* Here we go again, pity 2aguy didn't know this was a gangland hit, the "victim" had been shot in 2010 and later arrested himself for possessing a firearm.
So, your point is, even in a country where private firearms are banned, we shouldn't be surprised if criminals have free access to them?
Private firearms are not banned over here, do keep up. Criminals have always had access to firearms, which they use mainly to protect themselves from other criminals with guns; it's something they picked up from America. The rest of us don't care that much if criminals shoot each other.
Private firearms are not banned in England? Then why is it illegal to defend yourself with a gun in England? or a knife? or a cane? defending yourself there has almost become an act of aggression it self In the eyes of the law.
Yet, you say you dont care if Criminals shoot each other???? But heaven forbid a citizen shoot a Criminal in self defence.... then you care. You dont see the irony here?
*sigh* Here we go again, pity 2aguy didn't know this was a gangland hit, the "victim" had been shot in 2010 and later arrested himself for possessing a firearm.
So, your point is, even in a country where private firearms are banned, we shouldn't be surprised if criminals have free access to them?
Private firearms are not banned over here, do keep up. Criminals have always had access to firearms, which they use mainly to protect themselves from other criminals with guns; it's something they picked up from America. The rest of us don't care that much if criminals shoot each other.
Private firearms are not banned in England? Then why is it illegal to defend yourself with a gun in England? or a knife? or a cane? defending yourself there has almost become an act of aggression it self In the eyes of the law.
Yet, you say you dont care if Criminals shoot each other???? But heaven forbid a citizen shoot a Criminal in self defence.... then you care. You dont see the irony here?
To own a firearm or weapon of any category in th UK requires a 'valid reason'. Hunting and target shooting are the most common reasons. Self defense or home defense are NOT allowed as valid reasons.
If you use a fire arm, or any weapon, including a cricket bat, in self defense, you must prove a) that you were carrying that weapon at the time for the purposes of participating in the valid reason, 'I was on my way to play cricket when I was assaulted ', and b) the the use of the weapon is considered 'reasonable' response the the level of force used against you.
This is important
Anytime you use a weapon in self defense in the UK, you must prove both that you were not carrying the weapon in anticipation of being assaulted and you must prove the use of the weapon was proportional to the threat.
You are guilty until you can prove your use of a weapon was justified.
*sigh* Here we go again, pity 2aguy didn't know this was a gangland hit, the "victim" had been shot in 2010 and later arrested himself for possessing a firearm.
So, your point is, even in a country where private firearms are banned, we shouldn't be surprised if criminals have free access to them?
Private firearms are not banned over here, do keep up. Criminals have always had access to firearms, which they use mainly to protect themselves from other criminals with guns; it's something they picked up from America. The rest of us don't care that much if criminals shoot each other.
Private firearms are not banned in England? Then why is it illegal to defend yourself with a gun in England? or a knife? or a cane? defending yourself there has almost become an act of aggression it self In the eyes of the law.
Yet, you say you dont care if Criminals shoot each other???? But heaven forbid a citizen shoot a Criminal in self defence.... then you care. You dont see the irony here?
To own a firearm or weapon of any category in th UK requires a 'valid reason'. Hunting and target shooting are the most common reasons. Self defense or home defense are NOT allowed as valid reasons.
If you use a fire arm, or any weapon, including a cricket bat, in self defense, you must prove a) that you were carrying that weapon at the time for the purposes of participating in the valid reason, 'I was on my way to play cricket when I was assaulted ', and b) the the use of the weapon is considered 'reasonable' response the the level of force used against you.
This is important
Anytime you use a weapon in self defense in the UK, you must prove both that you were not carrying the weapon in anticipation of being assaulted and you must prove the use of the weapon was proportional to the threat.
You are guilty until you can prove your use of a weapon was justified.
That's not too different from our self defense laws
The person who shoots and kills in self defense cannot claim he is innocent of homicide and he must prove the shooting was justified.
please explain how our gun murder rate dropped 49% as more Americans own and carry guns
It didn't... it's has stayed pretty consistent and has gone up in the last two years...
2016: 14,415
2015: 12,974
2014: 10,945
2013: 11,208
2012: 11,622
2011: 11,068
2010: 11,078
2009: 11,493.
Guns in the United States — Firearms, gun law and gun control
Whoops.
Then why is it so wrong for non-criminals to have firearms with which to defend themselves?
Because a gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy.
So it makes about as much since as owning your own rabid pit bull because your neighbor has a rabid pit bull guarding his crack house.
Is there a link to your stat of 43 times? I saw one that said 34 times, though.... these numbers can be manipulated.
CDC, in Surveys It Never Bothered Making Public, Provides More Evidence That Plenty of Americans Innocently Defend Themselves with Guns
So, your point is, even in a country where private firearms are banned, we shouldn't be surprised if criminals have free access to them?
Private firearms are not banned over here, do keep up. Criminals have always had access to firearms, which they use mainly to protect themselves from other criminals with guns; it's something they picked up from America. The rest of us don't care that much if criminals shoot each other.
Private firearms are not banned in England? Then why is it illegal to defend yourself with a gun in England? or a knife? or a cane? defending yourself there has almost become an act of aggression it self In the eyes of the law.
Yet, you say you dont care if Criminals shoot each other???? But heaven forbid a citizen shoot a Criminal in self defence.... then you care. You dont see the irony here?
To own a firearm or weapon of any category in th UK requires a 'valid reason'. Hunting and target shooting are the most common reasons. Self defense or home defense are NOT allowed as valid reasons.
If you use a fire arm, or any weapon, including a cricket bat, in self defense, you must prove a) that you were carrying that weapon at the time for the purposes of participating in the valid reason, 'I was on my way to play cricket when I was assaulted ', and b) the the use of the weapon is considered 'reasonable' response the the level of force used against you.
This is important
Anytime you use a weapon in self defense in the UK, you must prove both that you were not carrying the weapon in anticipation of being assaulted and you must prove the use of the weapon was proportional to the threat.
You are guilty until you can prove your use of a weapon was justified.
That's not too different from our self defense laws
The person who shoots and kills in self defense cannot claim he is innocent of homicide and he must prove the shooting was justified.
You need to prove that your level of force was reasonable, except where laws like 'Castle Laws' apply.
But using a legal weapon in self-defence isn't an issue here like it is in the UK.
Moreover, except is jurisdictions where you must demonstrate need to carry, you don't need to produce a reason to own a firearm or a legal weapon.
Is there a link to your stat of 43 times? I saw one that said 34 times, though.... these numbers can be manipulated.
